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sparkyhx said:
on final thing, Careful if traveling abroad on holiday with the drug - look at the individual countries rules! you dont want to end up in a 'midnight express' situation (showing my age there)
Good advice, consultant should provide a cover letter if asked, I did just for transiting through the ME earlier this yearPerhaps worth mentioning that although I am not on any meds, both my kids have been.
Daughter - used it for GCSE & A levels, no issues and has now left school and stopped meds. She has learned what she's go at and what is going to cause her issues. All OK so far.
Son - Suffered worse than my Daughter, more pronounced and real issues concentrating. The meds resolved all this and he was able to focus. Sadly, although trying 2 or 3 different ones (I can post which if folks are interested) he said they made him depressed and dulled down his personality and he felt he was no fun to be with when he was on them. Clearly as a parent this presented us with a huge dilemma making you son take meds which made him depressed vs risking him failing his exams and constantly in front of the head for bad behaviour.
It’s interesting to read through this (but not too much of it, because you know…)
I’ve never considered myself to have a short attention span, (I genuinely believed everyone thinks five things at once) but one thought will quickly lead to another and I constantly get lost as to what I’m doing and why.
I’ll also be REALLY interested in things and then drop them. We bought and renovated a house 5 years ago and EVERY job is not quite finished. It bothers me massively, but seemingly it enough to tick any of them off.
My current ‘things’ are Podcasts and C25K, but podcasts are very, very hard work. Last month it was golf, the month before gardening. I don’t stick to anything.
The positives are when presented with a task, I’ll get others completed so I don’t have to do it. Everything eventually gets done in time/to the wire. In time? I’ll see you at 8…ish. Have I ever been early? No, but I really really meant to be. I have friends I’d love to see but don’t make time for - but I have plenty of time.
Anyway, I’ve got some work to catch up on, so I’ll go and have a natter with the wife before being kept awake about not getting around to it. Sure it’s not ADHD, that’s for naughty kids.
I’ve never considered myself to have a short attention span, (I genuinely believed everyone thinks five things at once) but one thought will quickly lead to another and I constantly get lost as to what I’m doing and why.
I’ll also be REALLY interested in things and then drop them. We bought and renovated a house 5 years ago and EVERY job is not quite finished. It bothers me massively, but seemingly it enough to tick any of them off.
My current ‘things’ are Podcasts and C25K, but podcasts are very, very hard work. Last month it was golf, the month before gardening. I don’t stick to anything.
The positives are when presented with a task, I’ll get others completed so I don’t have to do it. Everything eventually gets done in time/to the wire. In time? I’ll see you at 8…ish. Have I ever been early? No, but I really really meant to be. I have friends I’d love to see but don’t make time for - but I have plenty of time.
Anyway, I’ve got some work to catch up on, so I’ll go and have a natter with the wife before being kept awake about not getting around to it. Sure it’s not ADHD, that’s for naughty kids.
anyone here confirmed [as in full diagnosis] as adhd and decided against meds? looking for tips and advice on any other supplements that may help.
i did notice a positive effect from a recent vitD booster shot and had 3-4 weeks of really decent work ethic and positivity, but now really crashing, been in a slump the last 2 weeks and no sign of getting out of it anytime soon.
i did notice a positive effect from a recent vitD booster shot and had 3-4 weeks of really decent work ethic and positivity, but now really crashing, been in a slump the last 2 weeks and no sign of getting out of it anytime soon.
shirt]anyone here confirmed [as in full diagnosis said:
as adhd and decided against meds? looking for tips and advice on any other supplements that may help.
i did notice a positive effect from a recent vitD booster shot and had 3-4 weeks of really decent work ethic and positivity, but now really crashing, been in a slump the last 2 weeks and no sign of getting out of it anytime soon.
I was on meds for a period in my 20s but decided that I needed an alternative to lifelong medication and ongoing assessment, which back then at least, was required for a prescription for controlled drugs.i did notice a positive effect from a recent vitD booster shot and had 3-4 weeks of really decent work ethic and positivity, but now really crashing, been in a slump the last 2 weeks and no sign of getting out of it anytime soon.
I didn't do any supplements or anything like that, but had some success identifying trigger points where ADHD was most destructive and having systems and procedures to mitigate it. Also leaning into the positives eg starting my own business and seeking out environments where I could be more impulsive helped too.
thanks, i'll hunt it down.
i am a partner in a growing business but don't have an active role in it and not sure i would want to even if it could stand me on the pay roll. used to be field based in project engineering, which is essentially problem solving, which worked for years. just now i'm older and don't fancy that lifestyle. being office based is a killer and my impulsivity isn't always working for me in personal relationships.
i am a partner in a growing business but don't have an active role in it and not sure i would want to even if it could stand me on the pay roll. used to be field based in project engineering, which is essentially problem solving, which worked for years. just now i'm older and don't fancy that lifestyle. being office based is a killer and my impulsivity isn't always working for me in personal relationships.
Just had my adhd diagnosis from adhd 360. So far would recommend. Going to think about next steps, they did mention it sounds like its got a side of personality disorder with it. Counselling was mentioned as ways to deal with it as its not severe (well feels it at the moment but wasn't as prevalent in childhood so she seemed a bit hesitant to go down the medication route).
That said, I thought they would have asked more around effects stimulants have on me. Mood etc.
Will do some reading up on counselling route.
That said, I thought they would have asked more around effects stimulants have on me. Mood etc.
Will do some reading up on counselling route.
Edited by Bloxxcreative on Monday 5th December 14:31
did she base it around interviews solely with you or with input from family? my shrink interviewed my mum, mainly around childhood. there were things there i wouldn't have had the memory or perception of to have been able to bring up myself.
tbh i think if its f2f they can generally read some of your tells as plain as day. i read all the book titles on my shrink's shelf, the to do list on her desk, all the notes on the whiteboard, formed an opinion of her based on that, all of which she picked up on quickly. also didn't need to ask about the effect of stimulants as i freely told her about my history of self 'medication'.
tbh i think if its f2f they can generally read some of your tells as plain as day. i read all the book titles on my shrink's shelf, the to do list on her desk, all the notes on the whiteboard, formed an opinion of her based on that, all of which she picked up on quickly. also didn't need to ask about the effect of stimulants as i freely told her about my history of self 'medication'.
shirt said:
did she base it around interviews solely with you or with input from family? my shrink interviewed my mum, mainly around childhood. there were things there i wouldn't have had the memory or perception of to have been able to bring up myself.
tbh i think if its f2f they can generally read some of your tells as plain as day. i read all the book titles on my shrink's shelf, the to do list on her desk, all the notes on the whiteboard, formed an opinion of her based on that, all of which she picked up on quickly. also didn't need to ask about the effect of stimulants as i freely told her about my history of self 'medication'.
Solely with me. I'm not really speaking to my mother though. I think because I've never been in trouble with police or school made her a bit more cautious and also as I've managed to get fairly good grades etc too. As well as being able to not interrupt people in conversation. Part of that comes from private school at a young age setting boundaries, part bullying, part social awkwardness, part respect for elders. I did mention about coffee and sugar being my goto sleep remedy but she didn't delve into effects of drugs etc.tbh i think if its f2f they can generally read some of your tells as plain as day. i read all the book titles on my shrink's shelf, the to do list on her desk, all the notes on the whiteboard, formed an opinion of her based on that, all of which she picked up on quickly. also didn't need to ask about the effect of stimulants as i freely told her about my history of self 'medication'.
She did say alot of the meds may affect sleep and appetite so kinda pointless. Tasks not being done, restlessness and mood swings I'll see if lifestyle changes affect first I think. Am OK when busy and doing things I enjoy, just last 4 months there's been very little I've done to get enjoyment from which I think is exasperating it.
someone told me last night they think i have ADHD
after googling some tests it appears i may have it.
-shocking attention span on most things. attention to detail bad
-cannot read a book , haven't for years. i just do not take it in. get to the bottom of a page and realised i've drifted off.
- always seeking some kind of new high. faster, bigger, better. ive read ADHD people can have lower dopamine? or require more to fill it
- when people talk to me i drift off and really try not to.
- do not finish tasks.
these are just the few i can think of right now.
this is the first ive looked into it.
first question is. how can medicine improve something as mental as this? i dont like my work career in IT so struggle to put effort in. how can medicine possibly change that?
after googling some tests it appears i may have it.
-shocking attention span on most things. attention to detail bad
-cannot read a book , haven't for years. i just do not take it in. get to the bottom of a page and realised i've drifted off.
- always seeking some kind of new high. faster, bigger, better. ive read ADHD people can have lower dopamine? or require more to fill it
- when people talk to me i drift off and really try not to.
- do not finish tasks.
these are just the few i can think of right now.
this is the first ive looked into it.
first question is. how can medicine improve something as mental as this? i dont like my work career in IT so struggle to put effort in. how can medicine possibly change that?
Woodrow Wilson said:
VR99 and Tameracingdriver
Although I am somebody who has (outside of work) gained a lot of knowledge, various skills and rarely stops doing things (including volunteering), if I am not interested it is almost painful to apply myself.
I sometimes sit, whilst my mind wanders and I plan my next project/outdoor activity, in meetings and try to comprehend just how it is that some people are able to maintain any sort of interest or motivation in the tedious subject matter. I remember worrying about feeling this way as a new graduate, and it has not changed in the 20-odd years since.
I have also feared working at something that might interest me more in case the same thing happens and it spoils the interest for me.
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this is me exactly.Although I am somebody who has (outside of work) gained a lot of knowledge, various skills and rarely stops doing things (including volunteering), if I am not interested it is almost painful to apply myself.
I sometimes sit, whilst my mind wanders and I plan my next project/outdoor activity, in meetings and try to comprehend just how it is that some people are able to maintain any sort of interest or motivation in the tedious subject matter. I remember worrying about feeling this way as a new graduate, and it has not changed in the 20-odd years since.
I have also feared working at something that might interest me more in case the same thing happens and it spoils the interest for me.
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i've actually made a few posts recently on missing the past etc. i miss the going out. doing things all of that. that dopamine hit maybe as i've read
i question how almost everyone i speak to continues working 9 to 5 in a job they probably don't like for 30-40 years and that's it. maybe 1 holiday a year. few dinners. no drive, nothing going forward. but do not sit there looking at old videos or holiday pictures. as i do.
maybe my need for constant highs is the difference. not the other way round
To the last 2 posters - keep reading !
I've managed to get to page 5, much rings true but equally some doesn't
I'm lucky in that I agree with the superpower part - I've always found most people to be stupid, with their slow, narrow minds
As you can tell the arrogance part is also true - because I am better !
I know the end of most jokes before they're told and finish people's sentences because they're so damn slow
But I've got many unfinished projects and whilst I know I should be looking for the next £100k I tend to concentrate on the next quick £50
I've found reading up enlightening
I've managed to get to page 5, much rings true but equally some doesn't
I'm lucky in that I agree with the superpower part - I've always found most people to be stupid, with their slow, narrow minds
As you can tell the arrogance part is also true - because I am better !
I know the end of most jokes before they're told and finish people's sentences because they're so damn slow
But I've got many unfinished projects and whilst I know I should be looking for the next £100k I tend to concentrate on the next quick £50
I've found reading up enlightening
Does anyone get bored very easily of 1v1 sports even though they really enjoy them?
Yesterday, tennis, first 2-3 games very close, i'm much fitter than the opposition so wasn't fitness related but the last half hour of our one hour booking I got absolutely hammered. Mind all over the place thinking about remembering to iron work clothes later to what I fancy for tea, concentration levels completely gone. Same with badminton, golf etc.
Yesterday, tennis, first 2-3 games very close, i'm much fitter than the opposition so wasn't fitness related but the last half hour of our one hour booking I got absolutely hammered. Mind all over the place thinking about remembering to iron work clothes later to what I fancy for tea, concentration levels completely gone. Same with badminton, golf etc.
NaePasaran said:
Does anyone get bored very easily of 1v1 sports even though they really enjoy them?
Yesterday, tennis, first 2-3 games very close, i'm much fitter than the opposition so wasn't fitness related but the last half hour of our one hour booking I got absolutely hammered. Mind all over the place thinking about remembering to iron work clothes later to what I fancy for tea, concentration levels completely gone. Same with badminton, golf etc.
Yup. Even get bored playing a round of golf of when racing I get bored during it. I hate it.Yesterday, tennis, first 2-3 games very close, i'm much fitter than the opposition so wasn't fitness related but the last half hour of our one hour booking I got absolutely hammered. Mind all over the place thinking about remembering to iron work clothes later to what I fancy for tea, concentration levels completely gone. Same with badminton, golf etc.
Mirinjawbro said:
i question how almost everyone i speak to continues working 9 to 5 in a job they probably don't like for 30-40 years and that's it. maybe 1 holiday a year. few dinners. no drive, nothing going forward
I feel the same.Most people's lives appear extremely dull to me.
I've always needed to do things outside of work and continue to do so. Learning things, making things and challenging myself physically.
I left my, well-paid but dull and soul-destroying (with mostly boring colleagues) , job a few months ago and I am the most content and happy that I have been in many years. I have done some good things that have been long on my to-do list.
I am also wasting far less time online...
I have been doing some temporary, occasional, work of a different kind (far more practical) and have really enjoyed it, becoming quite absorbed in it at times.
I dread having another desk job in which I have no interest and spend all day watching the clock and procrastinating.
Financially, as a household, we are able to cope for the short term, but I do need to find a long term job/jobs.
I'm not nostalgic. My 20s weren't great. I did do some good things, but I felt a bit stuck and a bit down for the whole of the decade, I was unable to enjoy living and working at "a career" as I felt that I should, but didn't take the opportunity to make a break from it when I should have done. "I just needed to try harder".
Stressful jobs and a young family in my 30s weren't great.
My 40s are the best decade so far. I accept what I am like, I am more relaxed with myself, having enough money is enough (I don't envy the wealthy people that I know) and people appear to be noticing that I have strengths and abilities, with the confidence to be able to turn my hand to most things.
KTMsm said:
To the last 2 posters - keep reading !
I've managed to get to page 5, much rings true but equally some doesn't
I'm lucky in that I agree with the superpower part - I've always found most people to be stupid, with their slow, narrow minds
As you can tell the arrogance part is also true - because I am better !
I know the end of most jokes before they're told and finish people's sentences because they're so damn slow
But I've got many unfinished projects and whilst I know I should be looking for the next £100k I tend to concentrate on the next quick £50
I've found reading up enlightening
Good stuff. You are not the only one.I've managed to get to page 5, much rings true but equally some doesn't
I'm lucky in that I agree with the superpower part - I've always found most people to be stupid, with their slow, narrow minds
As you can tell the arrogance part is also true - because I am better !
I know the end of most jokes before they're told and finish people's sentences because they're so damn slow
But I've got many unfinished projects and whilst I know I should be looking for the next £100k I tend to concentrate on the next quick £50
I've found reading up enlightening
The only difference with me is that I have always been quite frugal, albeit never missed out on things. I often wonder how some people do manage to spend so much.
Paying off my mortgage very early was the best thing I ever did.
Woodrow Wilson said:
The only difference with me is that I have always been quite frugal, albeit never missed out on things. I often wonder how some people do manage to spend so much.
Oh no I like a bargain too - I refuse to buy a £5 coffee and travel with a packed lunch but that's mostly so I can do what I want, when I want, rather than having to find somewhere but I think that's my Mum's influence rather than ADHDBTW when I said I'd only read 5 pages of this thread I've been reading on loads of websites and much rings true but my traits aren't much of a problem (to me)
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