Vitamin D deficiency

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Chris Stott

13,540 posts

199 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
If anything it can make IBS worse, I have never said it would help with IBS. IBS can be caused by a huge number of factors, anything from food intolerances, previous infections, poor diet, bacterial overgrowth, medications (omeprazole etc) and countless other things. If I'm looking to sort someone's IBS then there are supplements that can usually help even without looking into the cause, but the cause and diet must be investigated for the best possible outcome smile

One thing is for certain, IBS is a term often used to say "you have a bowel issue and we don't know why". There is always a reason why, it's just finding it, and then solving it.
I wasn’t aware you’d made any recommendations about magnesium - I’d had it recommended to me by a number of other iBSc sufferers, specifically in relation to constipation relief.

I’ve already spent months on the FODMAP diet trying to find the cause… with no i success. My Endo hasn’t really been much help - though he has sorted my Hashimotos.

I’ve got some psyllium husk powder to try next.

xyz123

1,000 posts

131 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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Thanks to the person who shared detail of NHS vitamin D. Me and OH did the test. My result is 109 and her is 80. As per the results, both are "adequate" lavel. We generally take 2000iu tablet each day. I guess continue as normal and no need for any increase? Thanks.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,179 posts

214 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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xyz123 said:
Thanks to the person who shared detail of NHS vitamin D. Me and OH did the test. My result is 109 and her is 80. As per the results, both are "adequate" lavel. We generally take 2000iu tablet each day. I guess continue as normal and no need for any increase? Thanks.
Both results are "fine", the 109 is pretty much spot on, I'd like the 80 a shade higher, but it's far from bad.

JEA1K

2,522 posts

225 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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V interesting thread. I also have a Vit D deficiency, discovered in 2018/2019 after I was invited to take part in a study looking into bone density in competitive cyclists by Dr Nicky Keay. In brief terms, a lack of vitamin D can lead to softer bones which when coupled with non-ad bearing sports, like cycling, could leave early on set osteoporosis.

They took a number of males across 20's, 30's and 40's and the upshot was that the majority had a lesser bone density than they should have. Certainly as far as cyclists are concerned, restricting food intake during certain times of the year possibly will have an impact but on the other hand, spending time outdoors you'd have thought would counteract this.

Personally, my results showed my lumber spine density was below the average for my age/height/weight etc and I am not someone who restricts their food intake. Weight naturally drops off as my training intensity increases. She recommended 3000 or 4000 per day intake for me personally which I've stuck to.

The really interesting part is that when I gave blood for the tests, I'd just spent a week in Mallorca training on the bike 4-6 hours a day.

Certainly for you middle-aged guys, its probably something to take whether your active or not. If you're a swimmer or cyclist then its pretty much nailed on you'll need it as well as some load bearing gym work or running to keep your bone density up/


TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,179 posts

214 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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I do have an issue with JUST looking at bone mineral density as a risk, QUALITY of the bone is as important, if not more important. Bone turnover urine analysis tests are often a better indicator of fracture risk (which is more important than bone density alone, because it's fracture risk you're concerned with).

Loads more other than vitamin D to help with bone..... K2 of course, potassium, magnesium, calcium, collagen (helps with bone network formation). For my patients I also try to get them to improve their balance. Reduce the risk of falls > reduce the risk of fracture, irrespective of bone mass smile

msport123

281 posts

153 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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Hi Everyone,

I been watching this thread with some interest since my wife has been told she is Vitamin D deficient.

Her levels were 20 from her bloods taken in Dec.

She has just finished a 6 week course (last Friday) of 1 tablet a week of 50k IU each and then advised to go on to 800 IU daily thereafter.

I have asked the doctors if we could have another Vit D test now she has finished the 6 week course, I'm interested in seeing where her levels are at now the 6 week course is complete.

We have been told it is too early to check vit D and the guidelines recommend retesting at 3-6 months after the course.

Interestingly, the GP has sent her for a blood test to get her calcium levels checked - which they said is necessary after the 6 week course. Had we not asked about the vit D retest I doubt very much we would have know about the getting the calcium levels checked.

Any thoughts on the above?





V8covin

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7,421 posts

195 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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msport123 said:
Hi Everyone,

I been watching this thread with some interest since my wife has been told she is Vitamin D deficient.

Her levels were 20 from her bloods taken in Dec.

She has just finished a 6 week course (last Friday) of 1 tablet a week of 50k IU each and then advised to go on to 800 IU daily thereafter.

I have asked the doctors if we could have another Vit D test now she has finished the 6 week course, I'm interested in seeing where her levels are at now the 6 week course is complete.

We have been told it is too early to check vit D and the guidelines recommend retesting at 3-6 months after the course.

Interestingly, the GP has sent her for a blood test to get her calcium levels checked - which they said is necessary after the 6 week course. Had we not asked about the vit D retest I doubt very much we would have know about the getting the calcium levels checked.

Any thoughts on the above?
I've spoken to 3 different doctors about retesting after going on a high dosage course and they all said it wasn't common practice.I ended up paying for it myself for my own piece of mind

msport123

281 posts

153 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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V8covin said:
I've spoken to 3 different doctors about retesting after going on a high dosage course and they all said it wasn't common practice.I ended up paying for it myself for my own piece of mind
Thanks for the reply. I wish I had access to 3 different doctors! I guess I can see why it isn't common practice as it does cost and levels are likely to be fine after such a bit hit. Makes sense to wait for the 3-6 months on any new dosage and see where you are at and take it from there.

I guess I'm intrigued like yourself as to where levels are after the intense course, she was tested at 20 and I'm wondering how high she now is. I'll be getting the private test done to see.

800 IU per day for her medication afterwards sounds crazy low from what I have ready on here. I was thinking more like 4-5k per day and then retest in month 6.



msport123

281 posts

153 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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V8covin said:
I've spoken to 3 different doctors about retesting after going on a high dosage course and they all said it wasn't common practice.I ended up paying for it myself for my own piece of mind
Thanks for the reply. I wish I had access to 3 different doctors! I guess I can see why it isn't common practice as it does cost and levels are likely to be fine after such a bit hit. Makes sense to wait for the 3-6 months on any new dosage and see where you are at and take it from there.

I guess I'm intrigued like yourself as to where levels are after the intense course, she was tested at 20 and I'm wondering how high she now is. I'll be getting the private test done to see.

800 IU per day for her medication afterwards sounds crazy low from what I have ready on here. I was thinking more like 4-5k per day and then retest in month 6.



TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,179 posts

214 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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msport123 said:
Thanks for the reply - any idea why the calcium test?
Vitamin D is heavily involved in calcium absorption.

It's not THAT great a test though, the body needs a fairly stable blood level, if blood calcium drops our body will draw it from the bone. There has to be a fairly significant issue to cause a change in blood levels in terms of calcium absorption, however, issues with the parathyroid glands can cause blood level issues quite readily.

CoolHands

18,842 posts

197 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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I’ve been taking 2000iu now for 3 weeks, (vitabiotics so a decent brand I think). I really don’t feel any different.

Badda

2,706 posts

84 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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CoolHands said:
I’ve been taking 2000iu now for 3 weeks, (vitabiotics so a decent brand I think). I really don’t feel any different.
You probably weren’t significantly deficient then.

Chicken Chaser

7,887 posts

226 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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I've started taking 1250iu a day up from 500 and I've started sleeping better. Not every night but certainly more consistently and I've been on them over a month. I'm going to double up for a month and see how that goes.

LordGrover

33,556 posts

214 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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I've been supplementing 5000IU/day for years, plus love sitting in the sun and (usually) three or four sunny holidays every year (covid put a bit of dent in that, but Menorca last September and Lanzarote last month I'm getting back on track smile)

VitaminDBloodService@nhs.net said:
We have received your Vitamin D blood spot sample in our laboratory. You will receive your result within 5-10 working days...
Hope to get result next week.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,179 posts

214 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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Seems a mod is removing many of my replies on this thread, although I'm not sure why. They first removed the one which said "if you're a particularly chunky......"

Which is not saying you are, it's saying "IF you're a little overweight your levels won't be as high".

I can't reply to the mods email so I'd like an explanation as to why many posts are being removed.

LordGrover

33,556 posts

214 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,179 posts

214 months

Monday 4th April 2022
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LordGrover said:
Basically perfect. I'll be getting mine rechecked next month I reckon, along with some other things!

msport123

281 posts

153 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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LordGrover said:
If you don't mind me asking, we're you originally deficient?

Great result btw, I'm thinking of getting my wife on to 5k a day tablets. Which ones did you use? Any recommendations from anyone?



TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,179 posts

214 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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msport123 said:
LordGrover said:
If you don't mind me asking, we're you originally deficient?

Great result btw, I'm thinking of getting my wife on to 5k a day tablets. Which ones did you use? Any recommendations from anyone?
Natures Aid do a 5000iu one via Natural Dispensary. Or just get a liquid form which is sublingual. I tend to recommend Nutri Advanced for that. You can tailor the dose very well that way.

LordGrover

33,556 posts

214 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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msport123 said:
LordGrover said:
If you don't mind me asking, we're you originally deficient?

Great result btw, I'm thinking of getting my wife on to 5k a day tablets. Which ones did you use? Any recommendations from anyone?
I've been using cheapies from amazon:
D3 & K2 and Magnesium.