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Hey all. I'm at the point now where I think I'm ready to ask for help.
I've got private medical insurance through work, so I intend to give them a call and see if I can be referred, or if they can help somehow, otherwise, I'm honestly on the verge of going private if possible.
I just feel like I can't go on any more like this.
I feel like this has really come to the fore in recent years. Without giving a life story, the pandemic changed everything. I went from having a job where I worked in an office, supporting people, to a completely different role, working from home, that is more like project type work...
The problem is, because of circumstances at work, I don't really feel I have any guidance or management and am expected to just get on with things even though I feel like I've just been forgotten.
One thing has occurred to me during this process. I coped ok before, because my job was basically a list of small tasks, it was very straightforward. Now it's a constantly changing project type job where nobody seems to know what they want and I'm very poor at motivating myself on my own steam.
I feel like I just sit there most days doing very little, but at the same time, not being able to start anything. I start each day feeling like "I'm going to do this and that" then my brain has a meltdown as soon as I'm in front of the computer. I just freeze.
At this point I feel absolutely useless. I'm sure it's turning into full blown depression. Even slight setbacks or stress are overwhelming and I take it really badly.
I know all the little workarounds like breaking up tasks into smaller ones, creating lists etc but nothing ever seems to work.
I have literally no focus or drive. I will go to almost any lengths to avoid doing things through fear I can't do it and I'm going to be found out one day. The fact I don't feel like I even enjoy my work at all anymore isn't helping. I feel like I'd rather have a "simpler" job with a clearly defined role, not one that requires mental energy that I need just to get me through a normal day.
Not sure what the point of this was, but it felt good to write it down. I'm pretty sure I'm ADD / ADHD / depressed but I need to find out officially so I can move on in life.
I've got private medical insurance through work, so I intend to give them a call and see if I can be referred, or if they can help somehow, otherwise, I'm honestly on the verge of going private if possible.
I just feel like I can't go on any more like this.
I feel like this has really come to the fore in recent years. Without giving a life story, the pandemic changed everything. I went from having a job where I worked in an office, supporting people, to a completely different role, working from home, that is more like project type work...
The problem is, because of circumstances at work, I don't really feel I have any guidance or management and am expected to just get on with things even though I feel like I've just been forgotten.
One thing has occurred to me during this process. I coped ok before, because my job was basically a list of small tasks, it was very straightforward. Now it's a constantly changing project type job where nobody seems to know what they want and I'm very poor at motivating myself on my own steam.
I feel like I just sit there most days doing very little, but at the same time, not being able to start anything. I start each day feeling like "I'm going to do this and that" then my brain has a meltdown as soon as I'm in front of the computer. I just freeze.
At this point I feel absolutely useless. I'm sure it's turning into full blown depression. Even slight setbacks or stress are overwhelming and I take it really badly.
I know all the little workarounds like breaking up tasks into smaller ones, creating lists etc but nothing ever seems to work.
I have literally no focus or drive. I will go to almost any lengths to avoid doing things through fear I can't do it and I'm going to be found out one day. The fact I don't feel like I even enjoy my work at all anymore isn't helping. I feel like I'd rather have a "simpler" job with a clearly defined role, not one that requires mental energy that I need just to get me through a normal day.
Not sure what the point of this was, but it felt good to write it down. I'm pretty sure I'm ADD / ADHD / depressed but I need to find out officially so I can move on in life.
TameRacingDriver said:
Hey all. I'm at the point now where I think I'm ready to ask for help.
I've got private medical insurance through work, so I intend to give them a call and see if I can be referred, or if they can help somehow, otherwise, I'm honestly on the verge of going private if possible.
I just feel like I can't go on any more like this.
I feel like this has really come to the fore in recent years. Without giving a life story, the pandemic changed everything. I went from having a job where I worked in an office, supporting people, to a completely different role, working from home, that is more like project type work...
The problem is, because of circumstances at work, I don't really feel I have any guidance or management and am expected to just get on with things even though I feel like I've just been forgotten.
One thing has occurred to me during this process. I coped ok before, because my job was basically a list of small tasks, it was very straightforward. Now it's a constantly changing project type job where nobody seems to know what they want and I'm very poor at motivating myself on my own steam.
I feel like I just sit there most days doing very little, but at the same time, not being able to start anything. I start each day feeling like "I'm going to do this and that" then my brain has a meltdown as soon as I'm in front of the computer. I just freeze.
At this point I feel absolutely useless. I'm sure it's turning into full blown depression. Even slight setbacks or stress are overwhelming and I take it really badly.
I know all the little workarounds like breaking up tasks into smaller ones, creating lists etc but nothing ever seems to work.
I have literally no focus or drive. I will go to almost any lengths to avoid doing things through fear I can't do it and I'm going to be found out one day. The fact I don't feel like I even enjoy my work at all anymore isn't helping. I feel like I'd rather have a "simpler" job with a clearly defined role, not one that requires mental energy that I need just to get me through a normal day.
Not sure what the point of this was, but it felt good to write it down. I'm pretty sure I'm ADD / ADHD / depressed but I need to find out officially so I can move on in life.
Sounds very similar to something I'm working on at the moment. It's been a month of delaying, but now there's some time pressure, I'm hoping that'll help as I thrive better against a deadline. It's not easy and I'd recommend speaking to someone. Just having an explanation can help. I now joke with my wife each adhd thing that happens. Which is quite often, but does lighten the moment. That alone can help instead of feeling incompetent etc and wondering why I can be so useless at times, while also being so good at complex stuff.I've got private medical insurance through work, so I intend to give them a call and see if I can be referred, or if they can help somehow, otherwise, I'm honestly on the verge of going private if possible.
I just feel like I can't go on any more like this.
I feel like this has really come to the fore in recent years. Without giving a life story, the pandemic changed everything. I went from having a job where I worked in an office, supporting people, to a completely different role, working from home, that is more like project type work...
The problem is, because of circumstances at work, I don't really feel I have any guidance or management and am expected to just get on with things even though I feel like I've just been forgotten.
One thing has occurred to me during this process. I coped ok before, because my job was basically a list of small tasks, it was very straightforward. Now it's a constantly changing project type job where nobody seems to know what they want and I'm very poor at motivating myself on my own steam.
I feel like I just sit there most days doing very little, but at the same time, not being able to start anything. I start each day feeling like "I'm going to do this and that" then my brain has a meltdown as soon as I'm in front of the computer. I just freeze.
At this point I feel absolutely useless. I'm sure it's turning into full blown depression. Even slight setbacks or stress are overwhelming and I take it really badly.
I know all the little workarounds like breaking up tasks into smaller ones, creating lists etc but nothing ever seems to work.
I have literally no focus or drive. I will go to almost any lengths to avoid doing things through fear I can't do it and I'm going to be found out one day. The fact I don't feel like I even enjoy my work at all anymore isn't helping. I feel like I'd rather have a "simpler" job with a clearly defined role, not one that requires mental energy that I need just to get me through a normal day.
Not sure what the point of this was, but it felt good to write it down. I'm pretty sure I'm ADD / ADHD / depressed but I need to find out officially so I can move on in life.
Can you speak to your manager and look at role changing etc?
Bloxxcreative said:
Can you speak to your manager and look at role changing etc?
I could, potentially, get my old job back but it wouldn't be the same as before, lots of phone calls rather than being physically in the office interacting which I didn't like. It would also seem like a step backwards which bothers me a little. I sometimes do wonder whether I'd be happier doing a job where I wasn't at a desk all day. No idea what though, these days, not without taking a big pay cut.TameRacingDriver said:
Bloxxcreative said:
Can you speak to your manager and look at role changing etc?
I could, potentially, get my old job back but it wouldn't be the same as before, lots of phone calls rather than being physically in the office interacting which I didn't like. It would also seem like a step backwards which bothers me a little. I sometimes do wonder whether I'd be happier doing a job where I wasn't at a desk all day. No idea what though, these days, not without taking a big pay cut.
TameRacingDriver said:
I could, potentially, get my old job back but it wouldn't be the same as before, lots of phone calls rather than being physically in the office interacting which I didn't like. It would also seem like a step backwards which bothers me a little. I sometimes do wonder whether I'd be happier doing a job where I wasn't at a desk all day. No idea what though, these days, not without taking a big pay cut.
I took the big pay cut. Left my IT job after 10 years, the desk, the office environment, the deadlines, the pressure, the "what ifs" etc etc. Didn't know at the time, but looking back I was completely burnt out. Hated the job, was miserable as f
k but told myself everything was great cos I could afford expensive stuff. Anyway jacked it in and started driving for a well known American global private hire company, you know the one, you book your car via the app. Turns out if you can't sit at a desk for 7hrs a day you're not gonna be able to sit behind the wheel of a car for 10 plus hours a day. Lockdown happened and my short stint of a private hire driver ended (thank f
k).So, worked as a self-employed courier - s
te. Worked at an Amazon warehouse - ste x 100. Worked in retail stacking shelves - ste. Now got a job in a hotel as a linen porter and as work goes it's fking great. Headphones and podcast on, work by myself but with plenty people to talk too, decent perks, extremely flexible, bui graft at times but good for the weight loss. Not saying the correct answer for everyone is to quit a career for a minimum wage job but definitely worked for me. Stress levels, happiness, energy, etc - what a difference since the IT office job.The affordability bit can be tough but it's amazing what can be saved by ditching the German car, Italian clothes and full Sky package, not to mention the savings by prepping breakfast/lunch/dinner. Not nearly as much disposable income as before but turns out the cash and abundance of stuff didn't particularly make me happy...
Thanks both, thought provoking stuff. I do feel like I get happier when I'm not at work (who doesn't) but the depression I often feel at work, despite doing very little is palpable.
I've been trying to use the time to learn stuff but most of it is about data analytics and other typically corporate, business like stuff and I can feel my eyes glazing over every time.
I wonder sometimes whether the problem is me or the job for sure.
Thinking about it, I could probably afford to lose a fair bit of salary and not be too badly off. I don't have any loans (well, I do but I can pay it off today if I wanted, it's just not worth doing), nothing on credit cards, and my 0% interest free plan for my mobile is coming to an end. I don't have kids and live in a fairly small house with a relatively small mortgage, however I do need to beef up my pension pot which would be quite hard if I was poorer. Overall though I could clearly live on less, if I had to. My desire for "stuff" is going down as I get older so there is that, too.
I'm going to try and call tomorrow nonetheless to see if I can get the ball rolling with a diagnosis because I do wonder whether I might find some new motivation or enjoyment in what I do now with the right treatment.
I've been trying to use the time to learn stuff but most of it is about data analytics and other typically corporate, business like stuff and I can feel my eyes glazing over every time.
I wonder sometimes whether the problem is me or the job for sure.
Thinking about it, I could probably afford to lose a fair bit of salary and not be too badly off. I don't have any loans (well, I do but I can pay it off today if I wanted, it's just not worth doing), nothing on credit cards, and my 0% interest free plan for my mobile is coming to an end. I don't have kids and live in a fairly small house with a relatively small mortgage, however I do need to beef up my pension pot which would be quite hard if I was poorer. Overall though I could clearly live on less, if I had to. My desire for "stuff" is going down as I get older so there is that, too.
I'm going to try and call tomorrow nonetheless to see if I can get the ball rolling with a diagnosis because I do wonder whether I might find some new motivation or enjoyment in what I do now with the right treatment.
MikeGTi said:
Regarding treatment, are most people going through the NHS or going private? I contacted my GP over a year ago but was told then that the waiting lists were over a year. Obviously I haven't done anything since then 
I was put on a waiting list Feb 2020 and 3 years later, still waiting.... TBH since seeing a therapist for anxiety alot of my symptoms have gone or are more manageable. Perhaps a misdiagnosis from the Docs..?
NaePasaran said:
I was put on a waiting list Feb 2020 and 3 years later, still waiting....
TBH since seeing a therapist for anxiety alot of my symptoms have gone or are more manageable. Perhaps a misdiagnosis from the Docs..?
I'm wondering if mine is ADHD or if I'm just depressed tbhTBH since seeing a therapist for anxiety alot of my symptoms have gone or are more manageable. Perhaps a misdiagnosis from the Docs..?
MikeGTi said:
Regarding treatment, are most people going through the NHS or going private? I contacted my GP over a year ago but was told then that the waiting lists were over a year. Obviously I haven't done anything since then
Went private. Spoke to Dr about a year ago and told about the wait list. Did nothing until I really needed to get something done and was being pestered by a couple of friends. I've got a diagnosis. Predictably I've not picked back up with them about either the medical or counselling options.I was diagnosed privately a couple of years ago, at which point the health insurers promptly said "that's a pre-existing medical condition, Bye bye!"
I'd been prescribed Concerta, but it didn't seem to be having a great impact, had some annoying side effects and cost around £100 per month privately, so I gave up on it and waited for the NHS referral to eventually make it through.
The NHS psychiatrist put me on the Lisdexamphetamine and the difference is just staggering!!! Brain de-fogged, properly able to concentrate and multi-task without discovering 20 partly written emails at the end of the day that I'd completely forgotten about etc, etc...
They did warn me that appetite loss was a very common side effect on this drug, and sure enough, my appetite seems to have plummeted. I'm now questioning whether this is actually a side effect, or just the drug doing what it's meant to do??? Prior to starting on treatment, I'd often just find myself with my nose in the fridge for something to do even though I wasn't remotely hungry, especially when working from home. Now I'm wondering if my current appetite is actually what it what it would and should have been without ADHD?
If I'm correct on the above, then I predict that I'll rapidly lose much of the huge amount of excess weight I'm carrying until I plateau at about the right level of intake to maintain a health weight. It'll be interesting to see if this turns out to be accurate.
I'd been prescribed Concerta, but it didn't seem to be having a great impact, had some annoying side effects and cost around £100 per month privately, so I gave up on it and waited for the NHS referral to eventually make it through.
The NHS psychiatrist put me on the Lisdexamphetamine and the difference is just staggering!!! Brain de-fogged, properly able to concentrate and multi-task without discovering 20 partly written emails at the end of the day that I'd completely forgotten about etc, etc...
They did warn me that appetite loss was a very common side effect on this drug, and sure enough, my appetite seems to have plummeted. I'm now questioning whether this is actually a side effect, or just the drug doing what it's meant to do??? Prior to starting on treatment, I'd often just find myself with my nose in the fridge for something to do even though I wasn't remotely hungry, especially when working from home. Now I'm wondering if my current appetite is actually what it what it would and should have been without ADHD?
If I'm correct on the above, then I predict that I'll rapidly lose much of the huge amount of excess weight I'm carrying until I plateau at about the right level of intake to maintain a health weight. It'll be interesting to see if this turns out to be accurate.
Kermit power said:
I was diagnosed privately a couple of years ago, at which point the health insurers promptly said "that's a pre-existing medical condition, Bye bye!"
I'd been prescribed Concerta, but it didn't seem to be having a great impact, had some annoying side effects and cost around £100 per month privately, so I gave up on it and waited for the NHS referral to eventually make it through.
The NHS psychiatrist put me on the Lisdexamphetamine and the difference is just staggering!!! Brain de-fogged, properly able to concentrate and multi-task without discovering 20 partly written emails at the end of the day that I'd completely forgotten about etc, etc...
They did warn me that appetite loss was a very common side effect on this drug, and sure enough, my appetite seems to have plummeted. I'm now questioning whether this is actually a side effect, or just the drug doing what it's meant to do??? Prior to starting on treatment, I'd often just find myself with my nose in the fridge for something to do even though I wasn't remotely hungry, especially when working from home. Now I'm wondering if my current appetite is actually what it what it would and should have been without ADHD?
If I'm correct on the above, then I predict that I'll rapidly lose much of the huge amount of excess weight I'm carrying until I plateau at about the right level of intake to maintain a health weight. It'll be interesting to see if this turns out to be accurate.
The private psychiatrist should have titrated the medication and either adjusted the drug or the quantity to get the right levels, then gone for shared care with your GP. - but you are sorted now. If you werent getting on with Methylphenidate(concerta) he should have tried either Ritalin and spread the dose (quick and short) or tried Lisdex..........I'd been prescribed Concerta, but it didn't seem to be having a great impact, had some annoying side effects and cost around £100 per month privately, so I gave up on it and waited for the NHS referral to eventually make it through.
The NHS psychiatrist put me on the Lisdexamphetamine and the difference is just staggering!!! Brain de-fogged, properly able to concentrate and multi-task without discovering 20 partly written emails at the end of the day that I'd completely forgotten about etc, etc...
They did warn me that appetite loss was a very common side effect on this drug, and sure enough, my appetite seems to have plummeted. I'm now questioning whether this is actually a side effect, or just the drug doing what it's meant to do??? Prior to starting on treatment, I'd often just find myself with my nose in the fridge for something to do even though I wasn't remotely hungry, especially when working from home. Now I'm wondering if my current appetite is actually what it what it would and should have been without ADHD?
If I'm correct on the above, then I predict that I'll rapidly lose much of the huge amount of excess weight I'm carrying until I plateau at about the right level of intake to maintain a health weight. It'll be interesting to see if this turns out to be accurate.
sparkyhx said:
The private psychiatrist should have titrated the medication and either adjusted the drug or the quantity to get the right levels, then gone for shared care with your GP. - but you are sorted now. If you werent getting on with Methylphenidate(concerta) he should have tried either Ritalin and spread the dose (quick and short) or tried Lisdex..........
To be fair, I wasn't about to push the private one much further, as it was getting far too expensive anyway. I just hadn't realised quite how long the NHS referral would take!MikeGTi said:
In true form I completely forgot about this..
It seems the consensus is to go private, at least for the diagnosis?
If you've got private medical insurance then the diagnosis should be covered. It's after that that they decline to treat you any further as it's a preexisting condition. It seems the consensus is to go private, at least for the diagnosis?
Kermit power said:
MikeGTi said:
In true form I completely forgot about this..
It seems the consensus is to go private, at least for the diagnosis?
If you've got private medical insurance then the diagnosis should be covered. It's after that that they decline to treat you any further as it's a preexisting condition. It seems the consensus is to go private, at least for the diagnosis?
Kermit power said:
I was diagnosed privately a couple of years ago, at which point the health insurers promptly said "that's a pre-existing medical condition, Bye bye!"
I'd been prescribed Concerta, but it didn't seem to be having a great impact, had some annoying side effects and cost around £100 per month privately, so I gave up on it and waited for the NHS referral to eventually make it through.
The NHS psychiatrist put me on the Lisdexamphetamine and the difference is just staggering!!! Brain de-fogged, properly able to concentrate and multi-task without discovering 20 partly written emails at the end of the day that I'd completely forgotten about etc, etc...
They did warn me that appetite loss was a very common side effect on this drug, and sure enough, my appetite seems to have plummeted. I'm now questioning whether this is actually a side effect, or just the drug doing what it's meant to do??? Prior to starting on treatment, I'd often just find myself with my nose in the fridge for something to do even though I wasn't remotely hungry, especially when working from home. Now I'm wondering if my current appetite is actually what it what it would and should have been without ADHD?
If I'm correct on the above, then I predict that I'll rapidly lose much of the huge amount of excess weight I'm carrying until I plateau at about the right level of intake to maintain a health weight. It'll be interesting to see if this turns out to be accurate.
lisdexamphetamine is also used to combat binge eating, so there you go. I'd been prescribed Concerta, but it didn't seem to be having a great impact, had some annoying side effects and cost around £100 per month privately, so I gave up on it and waited for the NHS referral to eventually make it through.
The NHS psychiatrist put me on the Lisdexamphetamine and the difference is just staggering!!! Brain de-fogged, properly able to concentrate and multi-task without discovering 20 partly written emails at the end of the day that I'd completely forgotten about etc, etc...
They did warn me that appetite loss was a very common side effect on this drug, and sure enough, my appetite seems to have plummeted. I'm now questioning whether this is actually a side effect, or just the drug doing what it's meant to do??? Prior to starting on treatment, I'd often just find myself with my nose in the fridge for something to do even though I wasn't remotely hungry, especially when working from home. Now I'm wondering if my current appetite is actually what it what it would and should have been without ADHD?
If I'm correct on the above, then I predict that I'll rapidly lose much of the huge amount of excess weight I'm carrying until I plateau at about the right level of intake to maintain a health weight. It'll be interesting to see if this turns out to be accurate.
what was your concerta dose? during the brief time i flirted with meds it had a notable impact, not all good.
other meds are not available at all here [UAE]. that and the desire to not be on pills sees me trying to navigate it all with a mix of therapy and self development. i really think the answer is fitness and doing what i want to do, not what i have to do. career is the tricky one here of course. currently bored witless 9-5 and then i get home to my workshop and <blink> its 3am.
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