Vaccine side effects
Discussion
ElectricSoup said:
smn159 said:
mybrainhurts said:
If only they'd completed those phase 4 trials before rollout, eh?
I am a former Programme Manager in Clinical Trial data capture. Stop spreading misinformation.
I had my AZ yesterday and I'm sitting here feeling nauseous, got a headache, aches and pains, feeling lethargic, sore arm. All the greatest hits. Like a medium grade hangover truth betold. Still glad I had it.
When several posters pointed out the gap in his understanding he didn't resurface on the matter until now...
smn159 said:
ElectricSoup said:
smn159 said:
mybrainhurts said:
If only they'd completed those phase 4 trials before rollout, eh?I am a former Programme Manager in Clinical Trial data capture. Stop spreading misinformation.
I had my AZ yesterday and I'm sitting here feeling nauseous, got a headache, aches and pains, feeling lethargic, sore arm. All the greatest hits. Like a medium grade hangover truth betold. Still glad I had it.
When several posters pointed out the gap in his understanding he didn't resurface on the matter until now...
ElectricSoup said:
Drugs do not have to go through Phase 4 before being approved for use. Phase 3 is the final hurdle befoer approval. Phase 4 is then a data collection exercise, which helps the drug company refine dosage, and find any other side-effects, and spot if the drug is useful against any other conditions. Phase 4 trials are opened to a very large patient population, because they are not about safety, as safety is proven at Phase 3.
I am a former Programme Manager in Clinical Trial data capture. Stop spreading misinformation.
I had my AZ yesterday and I'm sitting here feeling nauseous, got a headache, aches and pains, feeling lethargic, sore arm. All the greatest hits. Like a medium grade hangover truth betold. Still glad I had it.
Glad you got the jab and hope you feel better soon.I am a former Programme Manager in Clinical Trial data capture. Stop spreading misinformation.
I had my AZ yesterday and I'm sitting here feeling nauseous, got a headache, aches and pains, feeling lethargic, sore arm. All the greatest hits. Like a medium grade hangover truth betold. Still glad I had it.
Those symptoms would likely be far worse if you got Covid proper speaking from experience, my God, the headache!
I got a phone call inviting me for my vaccination on Friday morning, booked in for 4pm on Saturday. I wasn't expecting it for a few weeks at least! They did offer 9am, but I'm never at my best by 9am on a weekend, let alone in lockdown. Turned up 20 mins early, fully expecting to be told to come back later. There was a queue of 2 and I was ushered straight in. I think it took 10 minutes at the outside, and was out before I was due in. All the vaccination stations were working, but there was minimal queueing. I don't think I've ever experienced anything as efficient, yet never felt rushed. After a year of having to deal with a nightmare, the staff could have been forgiven for being slightly off-hand and eager just to crank through the massed public, but they just weren't. I'm sure that if I had had questions or felt apprehensive, then they would have had time for me. They must go through hundreds of people a day but it felt like personal service. Amazing.
Yes I felt the needle go in (OAZ, never been particularly bothered by injections) but it didn't hurt, it just felt bruised and a bit stiff a few minutes later. It did ache for a couple of days, and still feels slightly sore. I did feel slightly odd for a day or so - no idea if that was psychosomatic or actual - and more tired than usual for 3 nights, with a slight temperature. Like I was shrugging off a cold. Just vaguely meh. Had a couple of vaguely weird dreams, but they seem par for the course with lockdown. If anything, my body's response is reassuring me that it is building defences. Kinda the opposite to the placebo effect. The aching arm feels a bit like a badge of honour.
Yes I felt the needle go in (OAZ, never been particularly bothered by injections) but it didn't hurt, it just felt bruised and a bit stiff a few minutes later. It did ache for a couple of days, and still feels slightly sore. I did feel slightly odd for a day or so - no idea if that was psychosomatic or actual - and more tired than usual for 3 nights, with a slight temperature. Like I was shrugging off a cold. Just vaguely meh. Had a couple of vaguely weird dreams, but they seem par for the course with lockdown. If anything, my body's response is reassuring me that it is building defences. Kinda the opposite to the placebo effect. The aching arm feels a bit like a badge of honour.
TTmonkey said:
David_M said:
I had mine at the weekend (OAZ) and had essentially no side-effects (I have not had Covid).
Two colleagues who have had Covid also had it at the weekend and have both been completely wiped out - quote "I feel as bad as I did when I had it" (from someone who was bed-ridden for a week, and is not a malingerer).
That’s so weird, the opposite of what you’d guess, isn’t it? Two colleagues who have had Covid also had it at the weekend and have both been completely wiped out - quote "I feel as bad as I did when I had it" (from someone who was bed-ridden for a week, and is not a malingerer).
That’s what my GP and another consultant said to my wife after she had pretty bad side effects anyway.
I assumed it was due to the body remembering the virus (from when you had it) and then makes an active response to it when you get vaccinated.
Roman Rhodes said:
popeyewhite said:
Oilchange said:
A to Z was a road map. Made of paper.
Back when we had a demand for them, maybe you're just use to satnavs?
Ah, very good. Certainly fell for that one. Not quite of my time but I've heard of the AZ.. in the dim and distant past.Back when we had a demand for them, maybe you're just use to satnavs?
True story: the original A-Z street map was created by a woman. (Checks over shoulder) Amazing anyone got anywhere!
I'd have a dozen pubs a day to visit in some random town, so I'd find a garage, buy an A to Z, and if it was really s
tsville, Nowhereland, one of those little folding black and white maps because we were off the map (almost). Life was so much simpler. My little 306 pov spec diesel, Jackie Brambles on the radio, full suit and tie in 30 degree heat and endless flat roofed pubs around Cumbernauld or wherever..
Castrol for a knave said:
Roman Rhodes said:
popeyewhite said:
Oilchange said:
A to Z was a road map. Made of paper.
Back when we had a demand for them, maybe you're just use to satnavs?
Ah, very good. Certainly fell for that one. Not quite of my time but I've heard of the AZ.. in the dim and distant past.Back when we had a demand for them, maybe you're just use to satnavs?
True story: the original A-Z street map was created by a woman. (Checks over shoulder) Amazing anyone got anywhere!
I'd have a dozen pubs a day to visit in some random town, so I'd find a garage, buy an A to Z, and if it was really s
tsville, Nowhereland, one of those little folding black and white maps because we were off the map (almost). Life was so much simpler. My little 306 pov spec diesel, Jackie Brambles on the radio, full suit and tie in 30 degree heat and endless flat roofed pubs around Cumbernauld or wherever..
Not read every post, but most suggest that 12 hours of flu symptoms are the norm commencing 10 hours or so after the jab.
My experience has been slightly different although still within the boundary of symptoms stated on the NHS website (up to 10 days of flu symptoms). As far as I know, I haven't previously had Covid.
• Had the AZ jab at 6pm on Monday
• Tuesday daytime felt tired and achey but nothing that bad. Injection site felt a bit sore.
• Tuesday evening I had the start of shivering, headache, and a temperature of 40-41°C and this lasted 36 hours. Felt pretty ropey and got almost no sleep over 2 nights.
• Had a couple of hours of sweating on Thursday morning which I guess may be the body trying to lower the temperature (after raising it to fight the 'infection') then felt considerably better almost straight away.
• Thursday afternoon now and I just feel really tired which is no great surprise
So not every AZ injection follows exactly the same time frame and symptoms.
I would also advise drinking lots of water as I was really surprised how dehydrated I became.
My experience has been slightly different although still within the boundary of symptoms stated on the NHS website (up to 10 days of flu symptoms). As far as I know, I haven't previously had Covid.
• Had the AZ jab at 6pm on Monday
• Tuesday daytime felt tired and achey but nothing that bad. Injection site felt a bit sore.
• Tuesday evening I had the start of shivering, headache, and a temperature of 40-41°C and this lasted 36 hours. Felt pretty ropey and got almost no sleep over 2 nights.
• Had a couple of hours of sweating on Thursday morning which I guess may be the body trying to lower the temperature (after raising it to fight the 'infection') then felt considerably better almost straight away.
• Thursday afternoon now and I just feel really tired which is no great surprise
So not every AZ injection follows exactly the same time frame and symptoms.
I would also advise drinking lots of water as I was really surprised how dehydrated I became.
I had the AZ vaccine at 8:50am Wednesday morning, felt a little odd by lunchtime and worked through but by evening I felt bloody awful - stomach cramps, feeling sick, incessant flatulence, aches and shooting pains, thudding headache, cold then sweats then repeat. Could not get warm and so went to bed with paracetamol and woke around 1:00am then could not sleep or stay warm for rest of night.
I spent yesterday in bed and started to feel okay by early evening. I'm fine today but the jab site has come up sore and swollen whilst it was previously okay - however I can cope with that!
However I have to say it was bloody unpleasant and if it's this every year or perhaps even twice a year I will think very carefully about having it again and may be prepared to just take my chances with Covid.
In contrast my wife had the jab a few months ago (Pfizer) and had zero reaction.
I spent yesterday in bed and started to feel okay by early evening. I'm fine today but the jab site has come up sore and swollen whilst it was previously okay - however I can cope with that!
However I have to say it was bloody unpleasant and if it's this every year or perhaps even twice a year I will think very carefully about having it again and may be prepared to just take my chances with Covid.
In contrast my wife had the jab a few months ago (Pfizer) and had zero reaction.
Lotobear said:
I had the AZ vaccine at 8:50am Wednesday morning, felt a little odd by lunchtime and worked through but by evening I felt bloody awful - stomach cramps, feeling sick, incessant flatulence, aches and shooting pains, thudding headache, cold then sweats then repeat. Could not get warm and so went to bed with paracetamol and woke around 1:00am then could not sleep or stay warm for rest of night.
I spent yesterday in bed and started to feel okay by early evening. I'm fine today but the jab site has come up sore and swollen whilst it was previously okay - however I can cope with that!
However I have to say it was bloody unpleasant and if it's this every year or perhaps even twice a year I will think very carefully about having it again and may be prepared to just take my chances with Covid.
In contrast my wife had the jab a few months ago (Pfizer) and had zero reaction.
So a couple of days with predictable and manageable flu-like symptoms vs. the real possibility of death, and you'd seriously choose the latter?I spent yesterday in bed and started to feel okay by early evening. I'm fine today but the jab site has come up sore and swollen whilst it was previously okay - however I can cope with that!
However I have to say it was bloody unpleasant and if it's this every year or perhaps even twice a year I will think very carefully about having it again and may be prepared to just take my chances with Covid.
In contrast my wife had the jab a few months ago (Pfizer) and had zero reaction.
jsf said:
J4CKO said:
Has the AZ jab at 10:20 this morning, was ok all day, then about 9pm started shaking quite badly for about 30 mins which seems to have stopped, bit of a sore neck, feel a bit hot in the face.
Paracetamol and bed might be a good plan.Was in the middle of our weekly Zoom quiz, so saw that through with a couple of Paracetamol and went to bed.
Wife did her usual "Pathetic man" thing as she had zero side effects, she forgets when she is ill she goes to bed and is far more pathetic than I ever am.
Feel mostly ok today.
dr_gn said:
Lotobear said:
I had the AZ vaccine at 8:50am Wednesday morning, felt a little odd by lunchtime and worked through but by evening I felt bloody awful - stomach cramps, feeling sick, incessant flatulence, aches and shooting pains, thudding headache, cold then sweats then repeat. Could not get warm and so went to bed with paracetamol and woke around 1:00am then could not sleep or stay warm for rest of night.
I spent yesterday in bed and started to feel okay by early evening. I'm fine today but the jab site has come up sore and swollen whilst it was previously okay - however I can cope with that!
However I have to say it was bloody unpleasant and if it's this every year or perhaps even twice a year I will think very carefully about having it again and may be prepared to just take my chances with Covid.
In contrast my wife had the jab a few months ago (Pfizer) and had zero reaction.
So a couple of days with predictable and manageable flu-like symptoms vs. the real possibility of death, and you'd seriously choose the latter?I spent yesterday in bed and started to feel okay by early evening. I'm fine today but the jab site has come up sore and swollen whilst it was previously okay - however I can cope with that!
However I have to say it was bloody unpleasant and if it's this every year or perhaps even twice a year I will think very carefully about having it again and may be prepared to just take my chances with Covid.
In contrast my wife had the jab a few months ago (Pfizer) and had zero reaction.
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