Calling all Cervix owners…

Calling all Cervix owners…

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Trevatanus

Original Poster:

11,309 posts

165 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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I’m not sure if this is just a symptom of the mad world in which we live, but I never thought I would read a communication like this:

Rufus Stone

10,004 posts

71 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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I picked one up at a local car boot sale recently but I'm sure it's over 25 years old so should have been tested already.

2xChevrons

3,928 posts

95 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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This sort of thing I genuinely don't get what the fuss is about - cervical screening is for people who have a cervix. Not every woman has a cervix (it might have been removed in a hysterectomy), so it's not for all women by default.

It's like all the angst/comedy people found in tampons being marketed to 'people who menstruate'. That's literally the target user base - not all women menstruate, and some young female people who might otherwise be considered girls do menstruate.

And I have quite deliberately not mentioned anything about people who are trans - both those cases relate to entirely 'biological women'.


J4CKO

44,326 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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I think it makes sense, as it acknowledges that people may not identify as per the typical Cervix owner, and also doesn't mean they will get caught up in a load of discussion about gender politics/identity or whatever by daring to mention women/females and gender specific anatomy, as it may alienate/offend those who have transitioned or are non binary etc.

So folk read it and ask themselves, do I want my Cervix checking for HPV ?

Its very simple and there are no ifs or buts, whatever you say or feel you are, you either have one or you dont and nothing can change that, well, maybe a Hysterectomy but then the question covers that, you can have it removed but its not like you can add one.

chrispmartha

19,060 posts

144 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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Trevatanus said:
I’m not sure if this is just a symptom of the mad world in which we live, but I never thought I would read a communication like this:
What's the issue?

BikeBikeBIke

11,648 posts

130 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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What if you identify as having a cervix, but don't physically have a cervix?

rpguk

4,494 posts

299 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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Agree with 2xChevrons, also this campaign is aimed at women in their early 20s, who as a group are more in tune to this kind of terminology.

I find it a bit odd myself but I can't argue with the accuracy and I'm not in the target audience.

Earthdweller

16,014 posts

141 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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That tweet doesn’t appear on my search of NHS Borders account ?


This does, maybe they’ve changed ?

https://twitter.com/nhsborders/status/161861351065...

Rufus Stone

10,004 posts

71 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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BikeBikeBIke said:
What if you identify as having a cervix, but don't physically have a cervix?
Just remember to relax when they insert the speculum.

Catastrophic Poo

5,683 posts

201 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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2xChevrons said:
This sort of thing I genuinely don't get what the fuss is about - cervical screening is for people who have a cervix. Not every woman has a cervix (it might have been removed in a hysterectomy), so it's not for all women by default.

It's like all the angst/comedy people found in tampons being marketed to 'people who menstruate'. That's literally the target user base - not all women menstruate, and some young female people who might otherwise be considered girls do menstruate.
Exactly.

Works well to get those frothing who haven’t been near a cervix though hehe

ReallyReallyGood

1,639 posts

145 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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But it's the ridiculousness of it.

Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.

chrispmartha

19,060 posts

144 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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ReallyReallyGood said:
But it's the ridiculousness of it.

Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
What's ridiculous about it?

Cervical cancer is a serious issue why wouldn't they want to be inclusive If it helps get the message out?

How should it be written?

boyse7en

7,575 posts

180 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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ReallyReallyGood said:
But it's the ridiculousness of it.

Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
What's ridiculous about it? Seemed very clear, and targets the required audience accurately.

StevieBee

14,185 posts

270 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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ReallyReallyGood said:
But it's the ridiculousness of it.

Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
But it's exclusionary for good reason. If you're a fella who's now a lass, the message doesn't apply to you. If you're a lass without a cervix, it doesn't apply to you. If you're a bloke who used to be a lass, it probably does apply .... the sentence perfectly describes the people who that message is for.

anonymous-user

69 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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ReallyReallyGood said:
But it's the ridiculousness of it.

Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
It's literally about cervical cancer. You need a cervix to get that.

2xChevrons

3,928 posts

95 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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ReallyReallyGood said:
But it's the ridiculousness of it.

Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
But (to pretty much reiterate my previous post), where's the ridiculousness?

It's not about exclusion or 'upset'. It's about accuracy. The vaccine and the screening is for people with cervixes. If you don't have one, it doesn't affect you, whether you're a woman who used to have one but now doesn't because it was removed, never had one due to a genetic/developmental quirk, or if you are now living as a woman but you were born with male biology. And if you are now living as a man but still have a cervix the message does apply to you.

It's literally the most accurate, targeted and inclusive way of advertising the service there is. If it said "When any woman turns 25 they'll be invited for a cervical screening test" that would be less accurate and less inclusive than the message in the OP. See also: my earlier tampon-selling example.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

59 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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Rufus Stone said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
What if you identify as having a cervix, but don't physically have a cervix?
Just remember to relax when they insert the speculum.
I don't know what exactly you mean but was amused regardless.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

82 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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Mary Bourke has something to say on it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IDxoOlab0Os

Tigerj

414 posts

111 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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Another ph thread started with a weird transphobic. This thread is either bait or by someone who has no clue.

The tweets hurting no one. Just move on with your life or if you have a cervix, go get it checked.

Rick101

7,065 posts

165 months

Thursday 26th January 2023
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I have a cervix every year regardless of low mileage. Will often have an extra oil change too.
Like to keep it in tip top condition and tbh John loves getting in there whenever he can.