Waterpump Gasket Nightmare

Waterpump Gasket Nightmare

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MakaveliX

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662 posts

44 months

Wednesday 31st July 2024
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Spent the majority of yesterday removing the waterpump from my 2002 Merc.

Today I attempted to fit the new one, however long story short I ended up bending the gasket when I was checking to see if it would all fit.
One bolt would not go in, and I figured the gasket was blocking the hole - which was the case.
New gasket on the way.

Is there any way I can I use some adhesive to keep the gasket stuck to the back of the pump, even if just a tiny bit. It would make the job much easier.
I know that some adhesives are bad to get into the coolant system hence the question.



Is anything like this any use ?


Edited by MakaveliX on Wednesday 31st July 19:18

Hammer67

6,100 posts

199 months

Wednesday 31st July 2024
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Whenever I need to do something similar I use a smear of grease.

hellorent

540 posts

78 months

Wednesday 31st July 2024
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This ^^^^

MakaveliX

Original Poster:

662 posts

44 months

Wednesday 31st July 2024
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Thanks guys.
Was a bit frustrated earlier. Half way through putting the bolts in one of them wouldn't go in at all. Due to the gasket moving and being slightly bent from a previous first attempt.

Will get some permatex to play it safe ( as it says it's safe to use on water pumps ) and use a tiny bit to keep the flimsy gasket in place whilst I fit the part.


tr7v8

7,437 posts

243 months

Wednesday 31st July 2024
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Hammer67 said:
Whenever I need to do something similar I use a smear of grease.
This, Vaseline works well.

hidetheelephants

30,324 posts

208 months

Wednesday 31st July 2024
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Stick the gasket in place with a few very small blobs of superglue, the gasket doesn't need sealant.

Krikkit

27,446 posts

196 months

Wednesday 31st July 2024
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Can you pop the bolts through to hold the gasket while you get it in position?

MakaveliX

Original Poster:

662 posts

44 months

Wednesday 31st July 2024
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Krikkit said:
Can you pop the bolts through to hold the gasket while you get it in position?
Yes, I did put two bolts through as you just suggested, next time I will put a couple more in.. Plus a small amount of adhesive to keep the gasket in place.

Appreciate the input everyone thanks.

Megaflow

10,396 posts

240 months

Wednesday 31st July 2024
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Another vote for the grease trick

GreenV8S

30,882 posts

299 months

Wednesday 31st July 2024
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I use Hylomar Blue. It's a non-setting liquid gasket that sticks quite well to everything and is designed to tolerate all the usual fluids.

tux850

1,934 posts

104 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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I always assumed all pump gaskets had little tabs you fold in to hold them in place for refitting. Looking at that one, and the fact no one has mentioned this, must mean it was just coincidental that the (very) few I've done all happen to have had them.

E-bmw

11,082 posts

167 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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If a couple of bolts don't keep it sat right, the only thing I would use is Hylomar blue as above.

Pistom

5,907 posts

174 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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hidetheelephants said:
Stick the gasket in place with a few very small blobs of superglue, the gasket doesn't need sealant.
Not sure if superglue could cause issues. Will it not set to form a ridge?

I've found a good smearing of KY jelly does the trick.

dontlookdown

2,185 posts

108 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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GreenV8S said:
I use Hylomar Blue. It's a non-setting liquid gasket that sticks quite well to everything and is designed to tolerate all the usual fluids.
Another vote for blue Hylomar. Just a v thin coating over the gasket surface.The home mechanics in my family have been using it successfully for three generations;)

MakaveliX

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662 posts

44 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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I do have some Permatex on the way as it is advertised as " Formulated for water pumps "
This stuff here...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/PERMATEX-INC-22071-WATER-...

I can get Hylomar Blue as suggested, but I think it is a similar thing?
https://www.fixra.com/products/hylomar-universal-b...




Edited by MakaveliX on Thursday 1st August 09:18

E-bmw

11,082 posts

167 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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MakaveliX said:
I do have some Permatex on the way as it is advertised as " Formulated for water pumps "
This stuff here...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/PERMATEX-INC-22071-WATER-...

I can get Hylomar Blue as suggested, but I think it is a similar thing?
https://www.fixra.com/products/hylomar-universal-b...
Permatex is silicone, personally I wouldn't.

That is not to say it won't work, but I wouldn't.

As above blue hylomar has been the go to stuff for decades.

hidetheelephants

30,324 posts

208 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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Pistom said:
hidetheelephants said:
Stick the gasket in place with a few very small blobs of superglue, the gasket doesn't need sealant.
Not sure if superglue could cause issues. Will it not set to form a ridge?

I've found a good smearing of KY jelly does the trick.
The OP wants the gasket held in place, the gasket sealing face is quite large so small blobs shouldn't be a concern. Hylomar or other non-setting goop would be fine, care should be taken to avoid excess goop squeezing out and forming blobs on the inside.

MakaveliX

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662 posts

44 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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E-bmw said:
Permatex is silicone, personally I wouldn't.

That is not to say it won't work, but I wouldn't.

As above blue hylomar has been the go to stuff for decades.
OK thanks. I have got some Hylomar on the way.
What is the issue with Permatex being silicone ?

MakaveliX

Original Poster:

662 posts

44 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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Also. In theory. Can you use a liquid gasket maker instead of a physical gasket as shown in the first photo ?

Acorn1

1,712 posts

35 months

Thursday 1st August 2024
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As said rub a finger of grease around the flange to make it stick or any gasket sealant although not strictly necessary.