When Was Your Last Fight?

When Was Your Last Fight?

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__LEE__

7,520 posts

245 months

Friday 26th November 2004
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ledger said:

mungo said:
they just wanted to fight someone so they chose him - Thats the mentality!



so bearing the general mentality of some of these people, what would PH suggest as a discipline to learn for self defence and general fitness fun.

I used to do Karate but gave it up due to an injury, never had to use it in anger thank god. Now I'm thinking I really need to be able to look after myself. Not just because of this thread but just from general observations.


Boxing, Muay Thai, Kickboxing, JKD (which contains elements of the previous 3) or any good striking art.

Talk, if you think thats not going to work and you wont be able to get away, get in first, hit hard and don't stop until the other person either gives up or can't carry on.

silverback mike

11,290 posts

255 months

Friday 26th November 2004
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I find krav maga particularly effective.

ledger

1,061 posts

285 months

Friday 26th November 2004
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mungo said:

As someone who has trained and taught Lau gar kung fu and kickboxing now for nearly 15 years I can reccomend that style.


sorry, are you recommending Kickboxing (Thai ?) or Lau gar kung fu ? how can I find good schools ?

mungo said:

Nothing beats just being streetwise though and just being able to foresee where and when a situation could turn nasty and avoid it.


Totally agree, I am very anti violence and avoid loutish pubs. But I worry (especially now I have a baby) that I may not be able to phsically defend my family if need be.

Thanks for the replies people, but what it JKD and Muag Thai ?. I have just moved to Coulsdon (outskirts of the bad lands known as Croydon :-) ) if anybody can recommend a good martial arts school in the area

v8thunder

27,646 posts

260 months

Friday 26th November 2004
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ledger said:


mungo said:

Nothing beats just being streetwise though and just being able to foresee where and when a situation could turn nasty and avoid it.



Totally agree, I am very anti violence and avoid loutish pubs.


Sums me up (to counter any previous suggestions that may have been misinterpreted into suggesting that I was a tooled-up loony)

MOD500

2,686 posts

252 months

Friday 26th November 2004
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Never had a fight.

Bouffy's post was interesting about the fight in Oxford, and the whole Town v Gown thing.

I went there myself and saw a lot of local nobbers causing trouble with students, never got any trouble myself probably due to my accent. They seemed to pick on chaps with well heeled accents 9 times out of 10.

roadsweeper

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3,786 posts

276 months

Friday 26th November 2004
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ledger said:

Thanks for the replies people, but what it JKD and Muag Thai ?. I have just moved to Coulsdon (outskirts of the bad lands known as Croydon :-) ) if anybody can recommend a good martial arts school in the area


mungo said:

Lau Gar Kung Fu - most clubs around the country teach full contact kickboxing too in the style. Kickboxing is very different to Muay Thai (Thai boxing). There should be Lau Gar schools near Croydon


mungo said:

JKD is Jeet Kune Do which is the style Bruce Lee (who was a genuine bonafide martial artist not just a movie actor) developed combining many styles but originating mostly from Wing Chun (Chinese boxing) and western style boxing (most martial arts are similar in concept these days anyway, modern martial arts have all taken good techniques from other styles)


mungo is correct in everything he says there. Personally, I prefer Thai Boxing to kickboxing as you tend to have extra tools - Muay Thai includes use of the knees and elbows in 'full rules' fights (which kickboxing does not) and, as whole, incorporates the use of throws and weapons (though most people never go that far). However, both arts are very effective if required in a fighting situation.

Try KO Kickboxing for a good Thai Boxing gym in Bethnal Green, London. This is run by Master Bill Judd, a big name in European Thai Boxing and former world champion.

Alternatively, try The Real Fight Club if you fancy a bit of 'White Collar Boxing'. I quite fancy the latter but am moving out of the city now so hope to start Muay Thai with Master Sken near home.

Regarding Bruce Lee, the man is quite simply a legend and arguably the greatest martial artist of the modern era. Watch his films - superficially some are awful but watch the (actual speed) fight scenes and you can't help but be bowled over by his speed, power and technique.

roadsweeper

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3,786 posts

276 months

Friday 26th November 2004
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So, what's the betting we get at least one post over the weekend relating a very recent scrap in a pub whilst drunk?

moleamol

15,887 posts

265 months

Friday 26th November 2004
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v8thunder said:

ledger said:
mungo said:

Nothing beats just being streetwise though and just being able to foresee where and when a situation could turn nasty and avoid it.
Totally agree, I am very anti violence and avoid loutish pubs.
Sums me up (to counter any previous suggestions that may have been misinterpreted into suggesting that I was a tooled-up loony)
I avoid loutish pubs too. The thing is I then have to get home somehow through a busy town.

iguana

7,046 posts

262 months

Friday 26th November 2004
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roadsweeper said:



Alternatively, try The Real Fight Club if you fancy a bit of 'White Collar Boxing'.


Ahh excelent link, knew this was a thing in NY few yrs ago & didnt realise it had made its way over the pond.

As a keen- but not really particually any good pugilist, who has had a few batterings from flipping handy teenage ABA boxers in sparing sessions- that may indeed be my bag, might be a bit of a sod not being a london dweller tho.

BrianTheYank

7,585 posts

252 months

Friday 26th November 2004
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If you like fights and homeless people doing funny things download "bumfights" good stuff that is.

Last time I was in a fight was last year. me and some fella got into an arguement over something, and he became pretty hostile about it. so the next day he decides to round up 2 of his buddies and come look for a fight. They start giving me lip, and one swings and kinda hits me in the top of the head, i swing back, he falls. Turn, wack other buddy in the face really hard while the one behind me jumps on my back and start hitting me in the head, so he gets a headbutt to the face and a stomp to the chest while he is on the ground. Went on for a bit, I got pretty bloodied but they got the shorter end of the stick. Some people finally jumped in and broke it up. Then the next day people start telling me he wants to fight me again, and is gonna jump me after school I havent been in a fight since.

matt_t16

3,402 posts

251 months

Friday 26th November 2004
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Only been in one fight recently. Was about 2 years ago. I was waiting for my mate to pick a chinese takeaway up when a random chav walked up and punch the windscreen of the Saab in (hit it hard enough to break both layers of the laminated screen and his wrist I later found out) - he started screaming something and tried to open the door so I pushed the door open hard enough to knock him back (and over onto his arse as it happened) then emptied a powder fire extinguisher into his face as he got back up. Luckily my mate had appeared from the takeaway at this point and had the presence of mind to hold me back before I caved the little shit's head in with the now empty fire extinguisher.

Police picked him up with 2 mins of us calling them (very impressed) turned out he'd already beaten the bejesus out of a chap earlier that night and was known to them for being a local small time dealer.

Not an experience I'd ever like to repeat as the redmist definately came down and I don't like to think what would have happened if my mate hadn't been there to calm me down, really did think it was a him or me situation.

Matt

minimax

11,984 posts

258 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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guydw said:
the other funny one....

I had one chance only, so I kicked him in the nuts as hard as possible, and ran like mad. I wasn't too worried then as I'm pretty quick, I jumped onto a passing bus, which went right past him, so I gave him the finger etc...

Imagine my horror when the bus stopped a bit further up the road, he ran for it, but lucky for me we pulled away just in time.



dave_s13

13,828 posts

271 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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I'm fghting tomorrow in Warrington Thaiboxing is good if you want to get fit/learn how to look after yourself etc.

I've only ever fought in the ring or at work (as a bouncer) you don't get paid to scrap n the street, not worth it.

Dibble

12,942 posts

242 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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Last night (as predicted), with a drink driver, twice. Once when we were arresting him, then he wanted another go for the benefit of the custody office cameras...

roadsweeper

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3,786 posts

276 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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Dibble said:
Last night (as predicted), with a drink driver, twice. Once when we were arresting him, then he wanted another go for the benefit of the custody office cameras...

So let me guess, he'll go to court for this and get community service and a fine? Something tells me he won't get the 5 years he should for assaulting a copper.

Having said that, I read an article during the week about a copper pinning a man up against the world by his collar in front of his solicitor after earlier calling him a, "F@cking @rsehole!" In those circumstances he'd have had a headbutt minimum from me and f@ck the consequences!

Simonelite501

1,440 posts

270 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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My next fight is tomorrow at the TAGB British Championship in Coventry.
www.blackbeltschools.com/news/newsitem.asp?n_type=Competition&n_urn=231

I don't scrap in the street/Pub, far too old for that now.

Dibble

12,942 posts

242 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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roadsweeper said:

Dibble said:
Last night (as predicted), with a drink driver, twice. Once when we were arresting him, then he wanted another go for the benefit of the custody office cameras...


So let me guess, he'll go to court for this and get community service and a fine? Something tells me he won't get the 5 years he should for assaulting a copper.


He was 17 and was merely trying to stamp his authority on the world. I probably outweighed him by a factor 2 to 1, weighing, as I do, 20 stone+ with all my body armour/kit on, and was a good 8 inches tallewr. He didn't get chance to connect with his swinging fist, but rapidly found himself on the floor. He didn't get a kicking or any of that nonsense, but he was restrained and rehandcuffed before being taken straight round to his cell.

He hasn't been charged with assault Police, he's enough to worry about with the drink drive. If he had connected with me, he would have been done for the assault as well.

tuffer

8,850 posts

269 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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Lets up the anty a bit.....Anyone ever had a firefight, bullets and lots of brown trouser moments! Makes a drunken brawl seem a bit tame.

Dibble

12,942 posts

242 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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Yes

Got shot at in NI a good few years back in S Armagh

Lois-PIE

14,706 posts

254 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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Thinking today actually...I did hit a guy when I was down in London. He wouldn't accept no for an answer and was turning more and more into harrassment. Think I shocked him, especially when he tried to grab my wrist after and I whipped out of it and started yelling at him!