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kambites said:
MustangGT said:
They need to lose c. 150 kg in my opinion.
The current cars are about 720kg excluding fuel and driver; I don't think 570kg is viable without significantly compromising safety, which is not going to happen. Maybe I'm not technical enough but I don't think a 2004 F1 car was unsafe, save for adding the halo. The Halo is 7kgs.
They should be under 650kgs, IMO, but the thing compromising that isn't safety - it's the hybrid gubbins, which isn't going anywhere.
kambites said:
budgie smuggler said:
Hard to imagine there will be much more while they keep increasing battery sizes.
Are they increasing battery sizes? I'd missed that bit. eta- sorry i was bulls
tting there apparently the capacity of the battery is staying the samehttps://www.planetf1.com/features/explained-2026-f...
Muzzer79 said:
Maybe I'm not technical enough but I don't think a 2004 F1 car was unsafe, save for adding the halo. The Halo is 7kgs.
F1 crash safety has improved pretty dramatically since 2004. The monocoques are vastly stronger now and have complex crumple zones built into them to pass the modern crash tests; the roll-over bar is far stronger than it used to be; they've added the mandated side-impact structures; obviously as you say the halo has appeared (and whilst the halo may weigh 7kg, it added around 15kg to the car due to the requirement to beef up the areas where it mounts);... I'm sure there have been other safety improvements that I can't think of off the top of my head too. Also, as you allude to, the power-trains now are probably at least 50kg heavier than they were in 2004.
ETA: The bigger fuel tanks since the refueling ban probably don't help either.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 15th November 15:31
kambites said:
F1 crash safety has improved pretty dramatically since 2004. The monocoques are vastly stronger now and have complex crumple zones built into them to pass the modern crash tests; the roll-over bar is far stronger than it used to be; they've added the mandated side-impact structures; obviously as you say the halo has appeared (and whilst the halo may weigh 7kg, it added around 15kg to the car due to the requirement to beef up the areas where it mounts);... I'm sure there have been other safety improvements that I can't think of off the top of my head too.
Also, as you allude to, the power-trains now are probably at least 50kg heavier than they were in 2004.
ETA: The bigger fuel tanks since the refueling ban probably don't help either.
The bigger fuel tank could be reduced if the car was lighter, perhaps?Also, as you allude to, the power-trains now are probably at least 50kg heavier than they were in 2004.
ETA: The bigger fuel tanks since the refueling ban probably don't help either.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 15th November 15:31
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