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I read on twitter that Max is now picking a fight Villeneuve:
"Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Damon Hill tweeted: "Oh dear. Getting very messy"
Poor kid's gone from being the second coming and someone talked about as a future multiple world-champion, to being the embarrassing teenage kid that someone has brought along to a grown-ups party - in the space of a couple of weeks.
"Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Damon Hill tweeted: "Oh dear. Getting very messy"
Poor kid's gone from being the second coming and someone talked about as a future multiple world-champion, to being the embarrassing teenage kid that someone has brought along to a grown-ups party - in the space of a couple of weeks.
suffolk009 said:
I read on twitter that Max is now picking a fight Villeneuve:
"Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Damon Hill tweeted: "Oh dear. Getting very messy"
Poor kid's gone from being the second coming and someone talked about as a future multiple world-champion, to being the embarrassing teenage kid that someone has brought along to a grown-ups party - in the space of a couple of weeks.
wow "Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Damon Hill tweeted: "Oh dear. Getting very messy"
Poor kid's gone from being the second coming and someone talked about as a future multiple world-champion, to being the embarrassing teenage kid that someone has brought along to a grown-ups party - in the space of a couple of weeks.
suffolk009 said:
I read on twitter that Max is now picking a fight Villeneuve:
"Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Damon Hill tweeted: "Oh dear. Getting very messy"
Poor kid's gone from being the second coming and someone talked about as a future multiple world-champion, to being the embarrassing teenage kid that someone has brought along to a grown-ups party - in the space of a couple of weeks.
Oh dear oh dear. Not good."Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Damon Hill tweeted: "Oh dear. Getting very messy"
Poor kid's gone from being the second coming and someone talked about as a future multiple world-champion, to being the embarrassing teenage kid that someone has brought along to a grown-ups party - in the space of a couple of weeks.
suffolk009 said:
I read on twitter that Max is now picking a fight Villeneuve:
"Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
It will be some time before that nasty dig is forgotten. He's a young kid but even so. "Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Derek Smith said:
suffolk009 said:
I read on twitter that Max is now picking a fight Villeneuve:
"Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
It will be some time before that nasty dig is forgotten. He's a young kid but even so. "Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Max needs to get a check on this sort of thing right now or else it will damage him big time, regardless of how good he is in a car without anyone trying to overtake him.
Rude-boy said:
Derek Smith said:
suffolk009 said:
I read on twitter that Max is now picking a fight Villeneuve:
"Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
It will be some time before that nasty dig is forgotten. He's a young kid but even so. "Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Max needs to get a check on this sort of thing right now or else it will damage him big time, regardless of how good he is in a car without anyone trying to overtake him.
Maturity and not just ability should be judged.
Vertw@tten would be better off making his mistakes with his peers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4qEdi0doGs
Thing is, I'm fairly sure his thug of a father will be encouraging this current behaviour.
BaronVonVaderham said:
Rude-boy said:
Derek Smith said:
suffolk009 said:
I read on twitter that Max is now picking a fight Villeneuve:
"Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
It will be some time before that nasty dig is forgotten. He's a young kid but even so. "Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Max needs to get a check on this sort of thing right now or else it will damage him big time, regardless of how good he is in a car without anyone trying to overtake him.
Maturity and not just ability should be judged.
Vertw@tten would be better off making his mistakes with his peers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4qEdi0doGs
Thing is, I'm fairly sure his thug of a father will be encouraging this current behaviour.
A better retort from him would have been to remind Villenueve how much he enjoyed crashing and how dangerous that was.
BaronVonVaderham said:
I'm fairly sure his thug of a father will be encouraging this current behaviour.
I was wondering that. if Jos is anything like my Dad he'll be getting a bit un-PC in his old age and you could expect such a tactless retort in private. Max was what, three years old in 2001? So you can be sure he didn't remember that himself. Maybe he thought it'd be funny / smart to repeat his Dad's remark in public. suffolk009 said:
I read on twitter that Max is now picking a fight Villeneuve:
"Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Damon Hill tweeted: "Oh dear. Getting very messy"
Poor kid's gone from being the second coming and someone talked about as a future multiple world-champion, to being the embarrassing teenage kid that someone has brought along to a grown-ups party - in the space of a couple of weeks.
Is that just simply Hearsay? Or have you a direct quote?"Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Damon Hill tweeted: "Oh dear. Getting very messy"
Poor kid's gone from being the second coming and someone talked about as a future multiple world-champion, to being the embarrassing teenage kid that someone has brought along to a grown-ups party - in the space of a couple of weeks.
geeks said:
To all those asking if he was ready for a top seat in F1 I (still) think the answer is no!
Its not just the rules and etiquette of racing you learn in lower formula.
His 5 minutes will come around quickly if he doesn't use his or someone elses brain to filter comments like that; we lament the ubiquity of the modern pr driver and the loss of the ballsy characters of old but thats pretty dumb, flippant remarks about deaths in motorsport are like peado jokes in a mothering group.
suffolk009 said:
Poor kid's gone from being the second coming and someone talked about as a future multiple world-champion, to being the embarrassing teenage kid that someone has brought along to a grown-ups party - in the space of a couple of weeks.
He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!Sir Bagalot said:
Is that just simply Hearsay? Or have you a direct quote?
"Hij moet een beetje opletten met zijn uitspraken dat er iemand doodgaat, want hij heeft zelf iemand doodgereden. Hij moet naar zichzelf kijken. Ik vind wat hij zegt niet respectvol naar de familie van de overleden marshall", verwees Verstappen naar de crash van de Canadees in 2001 in Melbourne, waarbij een marshall achter de hekken omkwam nadat hij door brokstukken van Villeneuve's bolide was geraakt.http://nos.nl/artikel/2129451-botsing-tussen-verst...
Williams look quick. Probably the closest challenger to Mercedes on the long runs but Mercedes look to be on another planet. Tyres are lasting reasonably well too, so 1-stoppers could be the order of the day instead of being an alternate strategy. Not looking good...
On Super Soft I'd put Merc>Ferrari>Red Bull/Williams>Force India>McLaren>Haas>Manor/Renault/Sauber
On Soft Mercedes>Williams>Ferrari>Red Bull.
We shall see if this order holds up in qualifying.
TheInternet said:
"Hij moet een beetje opletten met zijn uitspraken dat er iemand doodgaat, want hij heeft zelf iemand doodgereden. Hij moet naar zichzelf kijken. Ik vind wat hij zegt niet respectvol naar de familie van de overleden marshall", verwees Verstappen naar de crash van de Canadees in 2001 in Melbourne, waarbij een marshall achter de hekken omkwam nadat hij door brokstukken van Villeneuve's bolide was geraakt.
http://nos.nl/artikel/2129451-botsing-tussen-verst...
Thanks for that. I did wonder if I'd been a bit hasty in my criticism. I know that in the world of instant communication it is easy to make a fool of yourself with a hasty retort. Perhaps Villeneuve's comment hurt him. Perhaps he was a bit of a hero of his. Will he apologise?http://nos.nl/artikel/2129451-botsing-tussen-verst...
Mind you, Villeneuve didn't set a very high standard of sensible driving, although more of a danger to himself than others. He was awesome in Spa. Great fun to watch.
Derek Smith said:
Thanks for that. I did wonder if I'd been a bit hasty in my criticism. I know that in the world of instant communication it is easy to make a fool of yourself with a hasty retort. Perhaps Villeneuve's comment hurt him. Perhaps he was a bit of a hero of his. Will he apologise?
Mind you, Villeneuve didn't set a very high standard of sensible driving, although more of a danger to himself than others. He was awesome in Spa. Great fun to watch.
Zonta beat him though Mind you, Villeneuve didn't set a very high standard of sensible driving, although more of a danger to himself than others. He was awesome in Spa. Great fun to watch.
TheInternet said:
"Hij moet een beetje opletten met zijn uitspraken dat er iemand doodgaat, want hij heeft zelf iemand doodgereden. Hij moet naar zichzelf kijken. Ik vind wat hij zegt niet respectvol naar de familie van de overleden marshall", verwees Verstappen naar de crash van de Canadees in 2001 in Melbourne, waarbij een marshall achter de hekken omkwam nadat hij door brokstukken van Villeneuve's bolide was geraakt.
http://nos.nl/artikel/2129451-botsing-tussen-verst...
Thank you for finding that. I must admit I trusted the translation that I found. http://nos.nl/artikel/2129451-botsing-tussen-verst...
suffolk009 said:
I read on twitter that Max is now picking a fight Villeneuve:
"Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Damon Hill tweeted: "Oh dear. Getting very messy"
Poor kid's gone from being the second coming and someone talked about as a future multiple world-champion, to being the embarrassing teenage kid that someone has brought along to a grown-ups party - in the space of a couple of weeks.
Wow, if Max said that then he is totally out of order IMO. This kid clearly has no respect for anyone, it is almost like he is going out of his way to make himself disliked. There is a fine line between developing a 'tough' image and just having your competitors hate you.... and I don't think he is getting the balance right at the moment. "Villeneuve should watch his language when he says that I might kill someone, 'cause he killed someone himself in Melbourne 2001" referring to the crash where debris from the car killed a marshall.
Damon Hill tweeted: "Oh dear. Getting very messy"
Poor kid's gone from being the second coming and someone talked about as a future multiple world-champion, to being the embarrassing teenage kid that someone has brought along to a grown-ups party - in the space of a couple of weeks.
suffolk009 said:
TheInternet said:
"Hij moet een beetje opletten met zijn uitspraken dat er iemand doodgaat, want hij heeft zelf iemand doodgereden. Hij moet naar zichzelf kijken. Ik vind wat hij zegt niet respectvol naar de familie van de overleden marshall", verwees Verstappen naar de crash van de Canadees in 2001 in Melbourne, waarbij een marshall achter de hekken omkwam nadat hij door brokstukken van Villeneuve's bolide was geraakt.
http://nos.nl/artikel/2129451-botsing-tussen-verst...
Thank you for finding that. I must admit I trusted the translation that I found. http://nos.nl/artikel/2129451-botsing-tussen-verst...
Max was clearly rattled in Spa. He's going through his development. He'll make more mistakes but he's going to need to learn to internalise a bit more.
As to the comment on Jos being a thug. Perhaps someone can point me to some reference material. I've never found him to be too bad ...
Jez
Z3MCJez said:
As to the comment on Jos being a thug. Perhaps someone can point me to some reference material. I've never found him to be too bad ...
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