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Shadow R1

3,800 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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Getting a tuned busa past 200, is just a case of picking what route, your going turbo, big bore etc.

ZX12 kit.
http://www.muzzys.com/ZX1375/index.html

Busa.
http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/index.php?page=Ha...
http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/index.php?page=ha...

Like some of the others have said, i think alot of it, at the speeds wanted is aero performance, then diminishing results for more power, as the record holding busa, needed over 700bhp to get to 256mph.
In comparison a stock BMW S1000RR, developing 189rwhp, was gps clocked at 186mph by one of the mags, at bruntingthorpe.

sim16v

2,177 posts

203 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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007 VXR said:
sim16v said:
550+bhp, the correct gearing and an aerodynamic car, then head over to Germany.

If you pick your time and place, there are a few stretches where you could hit 200mph.

Some are a lot quieter than others.

Artics are banned from the autobahns on some days as well.
laugh good luck with that plan hehe
Have you done much driving in Germany?



With 400bhp, i could see 180mph GPS verified every day if i wanted.

A lot of people on here are discussing hitting 200mph from a standing start, over as short a distance as possible.

For that you need a lot of power, as people have already mentioned.

If you are already travelling at 140-150mph, you need less power to hit 200 than you would from a standing start, and you'll be putting a lot less stress on a car doing it that way.

The proper way to hit 200 is to build up in speed steps, let the car cool and settle, then give it another burst of throttle.

Going from a standing start, especially with turbos, will put massive heat through the car.


Oh, and another thing, people are saying they have done 130,140 or 150mph, and that was scary, so they couldn't comprehend doing much more than that.

Try getting a a large sporting saloon with more than 400bhp.

It makes 150, 160 or 170mph a bit too easy, and if people who actually own the sports saloons were a bit more honest, i'd suggest that a lot of them have done more than 170 on UK roads at least once in their ownership.

Wi

psummers

100 posts

157 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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chris116 said:
There was an interesting thread on here about a guy trying to buy and tune a Mazda RX7 to get to 200mph for £10k, I think he got fairly close until the car was written off in a crash and he had to start again.
This is the one I think

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=784...

Plotloss

67,280 posts

272 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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The biggest issue with hitting 200mph is the power required to overcome the aerodynamic issue.

It makes very very very little difference (~2mph) if you do the 1.85 miles at Brunters from either a standing start at the start of the straight or with a ~100mph rolling start coming off the bottom corner.

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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psummers said:
Cheers, off for a read. smile

psummers

100 posts

157 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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Shadow R1 said:
Cheers, off for a read. smile
No problem. He's turning it into a track car now:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

projectgt

318 posts

162 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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Best bet surely has to be a Skyline R33 or Supra. These often crop up for sale with huge bhp.

In 2006, I was passenger in a Ferrari 430 that did 198mph (speedo indicated) on a (short) section of dual carriage way. It was not that exciting, the car just took a bit longer to stop approaching the next roundabout.

Edited by projectgt on Monday 2nd January 14:44

007 VXR

64,187 posts

189 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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sim16v said:
Have you done much driving in Germany?



With 400bhp, i could see 180mph GPS verified every day if i wanted.

A lot of people on here are discussing hitting 200mph from a standing start, over as short a distance as possible.

For that you need a lot of power, as people have already mentioned.

If you are already travelling at 140-150mph, you need less power to hit 200 than you would from a standing start, and you'll be putting a lot less stress on a car doing it that way.

The proper way to hit 200 is to build up in speed steps, let the car cool and settle, then give it another burst of throttle.

Going from a standing start, especially with turbos, will put massive heat through the car.



Try getting a a large sporting saloon with more than 400bhp.

Wi
Think you have some of this the wrong way around.

brotherharry

260 posts

285 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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CraigyMc said:
If you consider the forces with the same car driving along on the ground at 200mph, I think it's much more englightening. You're in a regime where the dominant force is aerodynamics, and the forces involved can toss the car about like it's made of paper, if something goes wrong.
(example on salt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNYIjG3se3I ).
(example on runway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0oJ2wQiu2Y ).
It's one thing to get up to 200, but going by these examples another thing entirely to get safely back down.

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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psummers said:
No problem. He's turning it into a track car now:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
You seen anything else, of that car\person, looks like both threads stop in January 2011 ?


twizellb

2,774 posts

214 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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Shadow R1 said:
Getting a tuned busa past =200, is just a case of picking what route, your going turbo, big bore etc.

ZX12 kit.
http://www.muzzys.com/ZX1375/index.html

Busa.
http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/index.php?page=Ha...
http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/index.php?page=ha...

Like some of the others have said, i think alot of it, at the speeds wanted is aero performance, then diminishing results for more power, as the record holding busa, needed over 700bhp to get to 256mph.
In comparison a stock BMW S1000RR, developing 189rwhp, was gps clocked at 186mph by one of the mags, at bruntingthorpe.
You don't need to spend that much Shad nono
Muzzy do a nitrous kit for $350 that gives +40bhp taking a ZX12r to comfortably over the 200bhp mark, which should do the trickyes

Red16

589 posts

170 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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£7000 and some testicles will do it fairly easily i'd say



http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3277957.htm


twizellb

2,774 posts

214 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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Red16 said:
£7000 and some testicles will do it fairly easily i'd say



http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3277957.htm
Yep that would most definately do the trick laugh

DanGPR

989 posts

173 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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twizellb said:
Yep that would most definately do the trick laugh
Having ridden a stadard litre sportsbike, I can honestly say that would be hella scary at 255bhp...

Red16

589 posts

170 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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That will be 255bhp@wheel, compared to a standard ZX10R which will make about 160bhp@wheel.

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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twizellb said:
You don't need to spend that much Shad nono
Muzzy do a nitrous kit for $350 that gives +40bhp taking a ZX12r to comfortably over the 200bhp mark, which should do the trickyes
Sorry mate, saw shiny engine parts and couldn't resist posting. biggrin

ZesPak

24,450 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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twizellb said:
Red16 said:
£7000 and some testicles will do it fairly easily i'd say



http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3277957.htm
Yep that would most definately do the trick laugh
Kwikasfki on the tank rofl

Racing fuel + 30psi + 350bhp eek, that would give new meaning to the phrase "scared to death"

DanGPR

989 posts

173 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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ZesPak said:
Kwikasfki on the tank rofl

Racing fuel + 30psi + 350bhp eek, that would give new meaning to the phrase "scared to death"
Watch the speedo. Watch the sky. shiiiiiii!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UEeqdl6U0&fea...

Red16

589 posts

170 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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DanGPR said:
Watch the speedo. Watch the sky. shiiiiiii!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UEeqdl6U0&fea...
not necessarily, a well setup bike, long swing arm etc will stay down fairly well, watch this zx10r

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRW38bFqxXo

DanGPR

989 posts

173 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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Red16 said:
not necessarily, a well setup bike, long swing arm etc will stay down fairly well, watch this zx10r

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRW38bFqxXo
Yeah, am aware of that, takes away the ability to go around corners properly when its 12 feet long though,