Ling v Mike Brewer - Twitter
Discussion
V8forweekends said:
northwest monkey said:
Can someone explain to me what that means - I don't mean what's been said as such, I mean more how do you work out who has said what.
From what I can work out, 17 minutes ago Mike Brewer responded to "@LingsCars" - I get that bit. When he typed his reply & put the "@LingsCars" bit in, does it go like a text message or is it more like a forum post for everyone to see?
As for the other bit from Ling Valentine - I don't get any of that. I can't tell who is saying what to who. From what I can work out, Ling has been "RT'd" by Mike Brewer and then told to "f
k off" by LingsCars. I thought LingsCars would be Ling Valentine, so why are they telling themselves to fk off?
I'm fed up of people going on about Twitter, I go on it & can't make any sense of it
In the first one RT stands for "retweet". Ling is retweeting (forwarding, effectively) the tweet. People who have set their twitter accounts to follow Ling will receive this in the stack of tweets they see. From what I can work out, 17 minutes ago Mike Brewer responded to "@LingsCars" - I get that bit. When he typed his reply & put the "@LingsCars" bit in, does it go like a text message or is it more like a forum post for everyone to see?
As for the other bit from Ling Valentine - I don't get any of that. I can't tell who is saying what to who. From what I can work out, Ling has been "RT'd" by Mike Brewer and then told to "f
k off" by LingsCars. I thought LingsCars would be Ling Valentine, so why are they telling themselves to fk off?I'm fed up of people going on about Twitter, I go on it & can't make any sense of it
You can tell it's Ling doing this (subject to normal caveats about it really being her etc) because you can see the (re)tweet has come from @LINGsCARs because the account that re(tweeted) it is shown above the tweet.
Now you get to the convention where the >> shows where the bit she retweeted (from @Ratemywhatever) ends, and she's added her own comment - the bit about "you don't even have a website - that is directed at @Ratemy, not Brewer.
So, Ratemywhatever tweeted, bragging that Brewer had retweeted something they had tweeted (we can't tell what from this - they are just bragginng about it) and Ling had told them to flip off.
They included the @brewer and @ling tags so that Twitter would alert both Ling and Brewer to the fact they'd been mentioned by Ratemy.
Ling retweeted, added her own comments, Brewer got totally the wrong end of the stick and got the ump.
As for the question about "does it go in a forum post for everyone to see" - yes - and no. As I said, people who follow Ling and/or Brewer and/or Ratemywhatever will have the conversation listed in their twitter feed - a stream of tweets, a bit like refreshing the forum here to see what new posts are there. People who don't follow them won't see them in the feed, but can search for them if they wish.
ETA - and if someone deletes them because they realise they have said something silly, they are gone (unless some cheeky soul took a screenshot and saved it somewhere)
Edited by V8forweekends on Friday 6th February 00:03
DonkeyApple said:
Twitter is pretty damn good so long as you have nothing to do with any of the celebrity aspect. All celebrities are mong magnets.
But using it to follow subjects that you are interested in is very good.
Exactly so. It's a just a tool or conduit. What you do with it, and how you use it, is up to you. But using it to follow subjects that you are interested in is very good.
I tend to use it a news ticker to get updates and news from various things that I'm interested in. Maybe someone just posted a new article to their blog that I follow and posted a tweet with a link to it to let their followers know it's there. Sniffpetrol is a good example (he also sometimes tweets during a F1 race with amusing comments).
And, unlike Facebook, if someone tweets then all their followers see it, not just a small proportion.
Saying that you looked at Twitter once and concluded it was rubbish is as nonsensical as saying that you turned on a telly once, didn't like the programme that was showing, and then concluding that telly is rubbish.
TWPC said:
V8forweekends said:
northwest monkey said:
Can someone explain to me what that means - I don't mean what's been said as such, I mean more how do you work out who has said what.
From what I can work out, 17 minutes ago Mike Brewer responded to "@LingsCars" - I get that bit. When he typed his reply & put the "@LingsCars" bit in, does it go like a text message or is it more like a forum post for everyone to see?
As for the other bit from Ling Valentine - I don't get any of that. I can't tell who is saying what to who. From what I can work out, Ling has been "RT'd" by Mike Brewer and then told to "fk off" by LingsCars. I thought LingsCars would be Ling Valentine, so why are they telling themselves to fk off?
I'm fed up of people going on about Twitter, I go on it & can't make any sense of it
In the first one RT stands for "retweet". Ling is retweeting (forwarding, effectively) the tweet. People who have set their twitter accounts to follow Ling will receive this in the stack of tweets they see. From what I can work out, 17 minutes ago Mike Brewer responded to "@LingsCars" - I get that bit. When he typed his reply & put the "@LingsCars" bit in, does it go like a text message or is it more like a forum post for everyone to see?
As for the other bit from Ling Valentine - I don't get any of that. I can't tell who is saying what to who. From what I can work out, Ling has been "RT'd" by Mike Brewer and then told to "f
k off" by LingsCars. I thought LingsCars would be Ling Valentine, so why are they telling themselves to fk off?I'm fed up of people going on about Twitter, I go on it & can't make any sense of it
You can tell it's Ling doing this (subject to normal caveats about it really being her etc) because you can see the (re)tweet has come from @LINGsCARs because the account that re(tweeted) it is shown above the tweet.
Now you get to the convention where the >> shows where the bit she retweeted (from @Ratemywhatever) ends, and she's added her own comment - the bit about "you don't even have a website - that is directed at @Ratemy, not Brewer.
So, Ratemywhatever tweeted, bragging that Brewer had retweeted something they had tweeted (we can't tell what from this - they are just bragginng about it) and Ling had told them to flip off.
They included the @brewer and @ling tags so that Twitter would alert both Ling and Brewer to the fact they'd been mentioned by Ratemy.
Ling retweeted, added her own comments, Brewer got totally the wrong end of the stick and got the ump.
As for the question about "does it go in a forum post for everyone to see" - yes - and no. As I said, people who follow Ling and/or Brewer and/or Ratemywhatever will have the conversation listed in their twitter feed - a stream of tweets, a bit like refreshing the forum here to see what new posts are there. People who don't follow them won't see them in the feed, but can search for them if they wish.
ETA - and if someone deletes them because they realise they have said something silly, they are gone (unless some cheeky soul took a screenshot and saved it somewhere)
Edited by V8forweekends on Friday 6th February 00:03
BritishRacinGrin said:
northwest monkey said:
So how did these 2 intellectual giants end up bhing at each other then?
Fundamental Internet flaw, proven time and time again. If people cannot see who they're talking to or hear the nuances in their voices, if they're just reading written word in a uniform font from somebody miles away, the conversations is depersonalized and people will behave differently. hing at each other then?I bet if you stood Ling and Brewer at a bar somewhere they'd get on fine, and this goes for most of the people who have silly little run-ins here.
Of course in this case Brewer doesn't even seem to know who's talking to him so this is a particularly severe case of depersonalization...
Misinterpreted e-mails and the run-ins they cause at work are a source of rich amusement, if you're not involved.
MTech535 said:
So Ling, what happened with rate my car dealer for you to tell thgerm to fk off?
And why would they feel the need to brag about being RTd by Brewer?
"RateMyCarDealer" seems like a new company without even a website. They are owned by an Italian web company and an Italian chap who is a director of that company. On Twitter, it's claimed they are a new company owned by a "youngster". k off?And why would they feel the need to brag about being RTd by Brewer?
They were canvassing **MY CUSTOMERS** on Twitter at 10pm Sunday evening, asking if anyone was my customer etc. That's outrageous (the timing).
They were obviously trawling for dirt, at a time they didn't think I would be online. But... I was. Heh.
So I robustly told them where they could go, hence the "F*** Off".
I have over 1500 customer testimonials online, with full names, addresses, postcodes, so don't really need some bloody Italian company critiquing me.
As you can see, Brewer must have re-tweeted them in some sugary way, and they stirred the s
t, and he reacted.- Ling
Oh, I see Ling is at it again. Expert at psychological warfare, but ultimately you are a selfish individual with no empathy for any cause but your own.
I remember how you trolled and spammed the Safespeed website all those years ago when you were looking to build your business. Nothing has changed, this is just another example of your elaborate spamming.
Mike Brewer might be a hothead, but you Ling are a classic sociopath*!
[From Mike Adams' article on Sociopathic Traits]
10 signs for spotting a sociopath
I remember how you trolled and spammed the Safespeed website all those years ago when you were looking to build your business. Nothing has changed, this is just another example of your elaborate spamming.
Mike Brewer might be a hothead, but you Ling are a classic sociopath*!
[From Mike Adams' article on Sociopathic Traits]
10 signs for spotting a sociopath
- 1) Sociopaths are charming. Sociopaths have high charisma and tend to attract a following just because people want to be around them. They have a "glow" about them that attracts people who typically seek guidance or direction. They often appear to be sexy or have a strong sexual attraction. Not all sexy people are sociopaths, obviously, but watch out for over-the-top sexual appetites and weird fetishes.
- 2) Sociopaths are more spontaneous and intense than other people. They tend to do bizarre, sometimes erratic things that most regular people wouldn't do. They are unbound by normal social contracts. Their behavior often seems irrational or extremely risky.
- 3) Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame, guilt or remorse. Their brains simply lack the circuitry to process such emotions. This allows them to betray people, threaten people or harm people without giving it a second thought. They pursue any action that serves their own self interest even if it seriously harms others. This is why you will find many very "successful" sociopaths in high levels of government, in any nation.
- 4) Sociopaths invent outrageous lies about their experiences. They wildly exaggerate things to the point of absurdity, but when they describe it to you in a storytelling format, for some reason it sounds believable at the time.
- 5) Sociopaths seek to dominate others and "win" at all costs. They hate to lose any argument or fight and will viciously defend their web of lies, even to the point of logical absurdity.
- 6) Sociopaths tend to be highly intelligent, but they use their brainpower to deceive others rather than empower them. Their high IQs often makes them dangerous. This is why many of the best-known serial killers who successfully evaded law enforcement were sociopaths.
- 7) Sociopaths are incapable of love and are entirely self-serving. They may feign love or compassion in order to get what they want, but they don't actually FEEL love in the way that you or I do.
- 8) Sociopaths speak poetically. They are master wordsmiths, able to deliver a running "stream of consciousness" monologue that is both intriguing and hypnotic. They are expert storytellers and even poets. As a great example of this in action, watch this interview of Charles Manson on YouTube.
- 9) Sociopaths never apologize. They are never wrong. They never feel guilt. They can never apologize. Even if shown proof that they were wrong, they will refuse to apologize and instead go on the attack.
- 10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth merely because they say it!
- One of the traits of being a sociopath is that you will have a band of followers who are charmed by your ways. That band seems to reside on PH...!
Edited by r11co on Friday 6th February 10:27
drivin_me_nuts said:
Why are you bringing your corporate dramas to pistonheads?
Great advertising for you, but really no one else does and there are many who have companies here who could do the same, but don't. So why do you?
More to the point, why does PH allow her the opportunity to use this site as a promotional tool and prevent others from doing the same?Great advertising for you, but really no one else does and there are many who have companies here who could do the same, but don't. So why do you?
Love the website BTW Ling.
Re: Mike Brewer - I always assumed he would probably be OK in RL, just a bit of a cock on TV. Like many people, seems he is just a bit of a cock.
I guess there is some history between them - I'm sure Brewer would be quite pleasant if I actually met him - and that is bringing out his cockish behaviour in this instance.
ETA - I would like to add that I still watch & enjoy MBs TV programmes
Re: Mike Brewer - I always assumed he would probably be OK in RL, just a bit of a cock on TV. Like many people, seems he is just a bit of a cock.
I guess there is some history between them - I'm sure Brewer would be quite pleasant if I actually met him - and that is bringing out his cockish behaviour in this instance.
ETA - I would like to add that I still watch & enjoy MBs TV programmes
Edited by MTech535 on Friday 6th February 10:15
hornetrider said:
She didn't start the thread. Merely joined it to put across her point of view.
Alex said:
Ling is awesome, and fits right in on PH. She should be given a weekly blog spot. I've been following her for ages.
What was that I was saying about a band of sympathetic supporters........
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