People who stop at empty roundabouts ?

[marcosgt]

I assumed people were taught to stop on roundabouts these days rather than exhibit any anticipation, but my daughter tells me this isn't the case.

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[martin mrt]

I've had a similar scenario but not with full on emergency stops, but what is it with people stopping when it's blatantly clear that your entry onto the roundabout is clear, then sitting for 10-20 seconds before eventually pulling out infront of another driver.

I followed a lady in a Yaris over three separate roundabouts that did this, then done exactly the same at at T junction.

Quite possibly the worst example of driving I have witnessed

[deltashad]

Last month the council erected an anti glare fence type thing at Broxburn roundabout, Perth. It basically means when you approach the round-a-bout your view is, well, bloody awful until you are on the thing. On my way to work last week not to my surprise a rear ended accident!
Off topic a bit, they also in their wisdom have decided its a good idea to erect big signs on junctions so you cannot clearly see what's coming towards you at 80mph whilst your attempting to cross the dual carriageway. Sorry for off topic..

[TwigtheWonderkid]

martin mrt said:

I've had a similar scenario but not with full on emergency stops, but what is it with people stopping when it's blatantly clear that your entry onto the roundabout is clear, then sitting for 10-20 seconds before eventually pulling out infront of another driver.

I followed a lady in a Yaris over three separate roundabouts that did this, then done exactly the same at at T junction.

Quite possibly the worst example of driving I have witnessed

As others have said, they might have been lost, or saw something you didn't. I'm bored of these "they stopped for no reason" threads. They stopped for no reason that you could see, that's a different thing.

People are absolutely entitled to stop at roundabouts or t junctions. If others didn't drive so close or too fast, it wouldn't matter.

[g3org3y]

deltashad said:

Last month the council erected an anti glare fence type thing at Broxburn roundabout, Perth. It basically means when you approach the round-a-bout your view is, well, bloody awful until you are on the thing.

Noticed this happening more and more. I'm asuming it's intentional to try and reduce approach speed. Bloody annoying.

[Liquid Knight]

I slow and prepare to stop at every round about especially at night. All it would take is for a cyclist to be riding without lights or a "dog walker"/"jogger" not wearing high viz to make you a killer.

"dog walker" in this case is most likely to be a lamper in full camouflage and deliberately trying not to be seen. "jogger" is a petty criminal dressed in all black including a hooded top also trying not to be seen.

[Panda76]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

As others have said, they might have been lost, or saw something you didn't. I'm bored of these "they stopped for no reason" threads. They stopped for no reason that you could see, that's a different thing.

People are absolutely entitled to stop at roundabouts or t junctions. If others didn't drive so close or too fast, it wouldn't matter.

They are entitled to stop but if the roundabout or junction is clear you should be looking to continuing to drive rather than stop.Stopping everywhere without needing to is bad driving.
Probably fail your test too for stopping all the time at clear give way junctions and roundabouts.

http://www.drivingtesttips.biz/how-to-fail-the-dri...

[quote]
Fail the driving test - Inappropriate actions at junctions and crossroads

Much of this number 1 driving test fail evolves from not looking ahead and not thinking in advance. By not looking ahead, many leaners realise the junction is upon them too late. Test fails in this situation arise from inappropriate use of mirrors, signalling speed and position.

When on your driving test, look out for any types of indication of what may be ahead. Give way signs, roundabout signs for example. You may also see cars crossing in front of you up ahead which may signify a junction or a set of traffic lights. When you have spotted that there is a traffic system up ahead, talk yourself through the approaching procedure well before you get there. Mirrors, signal, position, speed and look (MSPSL). Slow down in plenty of time. By approaching a junction or roundabout too fast, you simply have no time to see what is going on and often have to stop regardless of whether it is clear or not. By approaching slowly will enable you to go through the MSPSL procedure and give you plenty of time to see if the junction or roundabout is open or closed (open - can easily see that it is safe to proceed without the need to stop, closed - will need to slow down or stop the car due to lack of clear sight). Approaching slowly will also enable you to stop just before the junction line if necessary as stopping over the line is often a common driving test fail

Edited by Panda76 on Monday 20th February 16:03

[C.A.R.]

I will stop at every viable opportunity if I feel that the car behind is tailgaiting. Not emergency stop, but a nice long, gentle application of the brakes. Even in the dead of night when nothing's coming.

Still, situation the OP described is a bit odd.

[Six Fiend]

I had the opposite on Saturday night. Being tailgated by a numpty as we approached a roundabout, I had a good look, eased off a little, changed to 3rd and carried on. He virtually stopped then caught up and sat on my bumper again.

Next roundabout same procedure.

Tight turning off for me to get into, so I slowed down gently, what with him reading the small print on my number plate and liable to hit me if I did anythign sudden. He hooted and got quite angry.

They're just out there.

[C.A.R.]

Most tail-gaiters are like that though, they prefer driving in your slipstream but get totatlly baffled by junctions. Many-a-tailgaiter can be outrun over a junction without taking any risks and without breaking any speed limits, as most just see the throttle pedal as a 'go switch' with their only obstacles being other traffic and aforementioned junctions...

[Lordglenmorangie]

The really good ones, stop for traffic when all is clear they set off. So far so good. You are looking to your right for more traffic and because it's clear you set off, only to discover the numpty has stopped for no reason ! This can catch you out big time.

[Liquid Knight]

Six Fiend said:

I had the opposite on Saturday night. Being tailgated by a numpty as we approached a roundabout, I had a good look, eased off a little, changed to 3rd and carried on. He virtually stopped then caught up and sat on my bumper again.

Next roundabout same procedure.

Tight turning off for me to get into, so I slowed down gently, what with him reading the small print on my number plate and liable to hit me if I did anythign sudden. He hooted and got quite angry.

They're just out there.

These are drivers who drive six feet at a time. Concentrating so much on your back bumper they are oblivious to the rest of the world around them. They'll see the filaments of your brake light bulbs start to glow as you press the middle pedal but won't know why or what you're braking for. Next time if you can take the roundabout a reasonable rate do so and watch them go straight into the center island in your mirrors. Great fun.

[VR6 Turbo]

deltashad said:

Last month the council erected an anti glare fence type thing at Broxburn roundabout, Perth. It basically means when you approach the round-a-bout your view is, well, bloody awful until you are on the thing. On my way to work last week not to my surprise a rear ended accident!
Off topic a bit, they also in their wisdom have decided its a good idea to erect big signs on junctions so you cannot clearly see what's coming towards you at 80mph whilst your attempting to cross the dual carriageway. Sorry for off topic..

they have done this on a roundabout under the junction for hamble of the M27. it stupid what was a clear easy roundabout to negotiate now requires you to come to almost a stop to check its clear. however you get taller vehicles and people who look before the fence a floor it, in my opinion its just a little to much of a gamble. Then end up nearly rear ending you.

VR

[versus]

onboard CCTV should be installed like these people have done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ynouCLrT9I

[Liquid Knight]

versus said:

onboard CCTV should be installed like these people have done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ynouCLrT9I

Or just get a decent camera phone and holder like I have.

http://youtu.be/UGcyxjqt2mk

[DoubleSix]

Nearly as annoying as people that feel the need to slow to a near standstill when turning off a main road. Infuriating.

[shambolic]

Roundabout lane discipline is strong in this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj0WDHbx1HM&fea...

[Deva Link]

J4CKO said:

... possibly someone lost round the airport...

Well if you know that's a possibility then you ought to have been ready for it.

Addmittedly though, I like to straight line roundabouts and it's irritating if you slow down to open up a gap but it's still not enough.

[Lucas Ayde]

Lordglenmorangie said:

The really good ones, stop for traffic when all is clear they set off. So far so good. You are looking to your right for more traffic and because it's clear you set off, only to discover the numpty has stopped for no reason ! This can catch you out big time.

This happened to a mate of mine when I was a passenger in his car.

The woman in front had stopped despite the roundabout being clear, then moved off. As my mate looked right to ensure there was nothing coming around and moved off after her to approach the roundabout, he went into the back of her car as she for no discernable reason had decided to stop whilst about halfway over the line. It wasn't that she stalled as her engine was running when we got out to survey the damage.

Luckily, minimal damage to both cars and sorted out privately so no insurance fallout.

[Baryonyx]

I always lengthen my contact position a bit when I'm approaching a roundabout, as you never know when the car in front will blip on the brakes! Mainly, because most people only look at their bonnet when they're driving.

Their thought process goes:

driving - approach roundabout - slow down or stop - look at roundabout - move off (often in the wrong gear)


Whereas anyone with a brain will be engaged and using their crossview and observational links to get the best plan for the roundabout.