Cyclist vs Car (again)
Discussion
Agree with pretty much what has been said already really.
Van driver is a nutter with a screw loose and yet it could all of been avoided if the cyclisyt had just eased off and coasted BEHIND the van for a few seconds till it accelerated away instead of trying to squeeze up the inside to prove a point while wearing a head camera...
Van driver is a nutter with a screw loose and yet it could all of been avoided if the cyclisyt had just eased off and coasted BEHIND the van for a few seconds till it accelerated away instead of trying to squeeze up the inside to prove a point while wearing a head camera...
Anyone above who thinks the cyclist is at fault is talking out of their arse.
If you actually watch the footage you will see that both the cyclist and the van have to slow at roughly 53 secs into the footage for a left turning vehicle. As the cyclist is carrying more momentum he naturally undertakes the slower moving van on his right.
Does this give the van driver, the 'Right", to get the hump and slam dunk him into the kerb?
If you actually watch the footage you will see that both the cyclist and the van have to slow at roughly 53 secs into the footage for a left turning vehicle. As the cyclist is carrying more momentum he naturally undertakes the slower moving van on his right.
Does this give the van driver, the 'Right", to get the hump and slam dunk him into the kerb?
No, not at all.
Hopefully the cyclist will come forward - Essex Police are asking them to do so.
However, doubtless if this goes to trial for dangerous driving the jury will let the van driver off.
Which is a shame, as he should be banned for a couple of years.
On a different, but related note: http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2015/01/cycliq-mounted-...
Hopefully the cyclist will come forward - Essex Police are asking them to do so.
However, doubtless if this goes to trial for dangerous driving the jury will let the van driver off.
Which is a shame, as he should be banned for a couple of years.
On a different, but related note: http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2015/01/cycliq-mounted-...
okgo said:
The real 
is the bin lorry who cuts it fine and then turns in 20 feet later causing all of the issues.
As Pablo said, cycle in the left hand tyre track of the lane and you don't get that sort of st.
Sorry, but... is the bin lorry who cuts it fine and then turns in 20 feet later causing all of the issues.As Pablo said, cycle in the left hand tyre track of the lane and you don't get that sort of s
t.
Source: stopped cycling after having two people left-hook me in a week whilst riding in the left hand tyre track. It's alright according to my "fellow" cyclists though, 'cos I wearing a plastic hat
In other news, BRAKE will be pushing for more legislation to make our lives as motorists work (and I'll be very tempted to support them). And we'll be wondering why...
Gaz. said:
Two people went looking for trouble. Two people found trouble. The end.
Whaaaaat??! A cyclist is riding steadily along on his own and minding his own business, and is run straight off the road. How the hell do you come to your conclusion?Again, I'm embarrassed to be a driver. Twice over, when predictably other drivers blame the innocent party solely on the grounds that he's not in a car.
heebeegeetee said:
Whaaaaat??! A cyclist is riding steadily along on his own and minding his own business, and is run straight off the road. How the hell do you come to your conclusion?
Again, I'm embarrassed to be a driver. Twice over, when predictably other drivers blame the innocent party solely on the grounds that he's not in a car.
Turn the sound on and you'll hear he wasn't minding his own business. Nothing actually kicked off until he mouthed off. Again, I'm embarrassed to be a driver. Twice over, when predictably other drivers blame the innocent party solely on the grounds that he's not in a car.
It was a bad overtake by the van. He was too close and caught out by the turning lorry.
The driver made the original mistake but the biker should have realised the gap was small and dangerous. He had no need to push in to the gap and put himself in danger just to prove a point.
Fair enough he had momentum, but a little dab of the brakes and he'd be fine. Looks a nice smooth easy road.
He wasn't minding his own business as he pushes back in and then shouts at the driver for using his phone. Calling someone a nutter isn't always going to get a great reaction.
Still absolutely no need for the drivers' action after that. Pushing the biker off the road is dangerous and deserves to be punished for it, Also for the punch in the mouth.
One daft driving mistake lead to "bike rage" that lead to proper road rage.
The van driver will get hammered for that. However a little common sense by the cyclist and that would have been a nothing incident.
Sometimes you need to be man enough to back off and let an incident go. He couldn't.
Driver101 said:
Turn the sound on and you'll hear he wasn't minding his own business. Nothing actually kicked off until he mouthed off.
It was a bad overtake by the van. He was too close and caught out by the turning lorry.
The driver made the original mistake but the biker should have realised the gap was small and dangerous. He had no need to push in to the gap and put himself in danger just to prove a point.
Fair enough he had momentum, but a little dab of the brakes and he'd be fine. Looks a nice smooth easy road.
He wasn't minding his own business as he pushes back in and then shouts at the driver for using his phone. Calling someone a nutter isn't always going to get a great reaction.
Still absolutely no need for the drivers' action after that. Pushing the biker off the road is dangerous and deserves to be punished for it, Also for the punch in the mouth.
One daft driving mistake lead to "bike rage" that lead to proper road rage.
The van driver will get hammered for that. However a little common sense by the cyclist and that would have been a nothing incident.
Sometimes you need to be man enough to back off and let an incident go. He couldn't.
The driver ran the cyclist off the road.It was a bad overtake by the van. He was too close and caught out by the turning lorry.
The driver made the original mistake but the biker should have realised the gap was small and dangerous. He had no need to push in to the gap and put himself in danger just to prove a point.
Fair enough he had momentum, but a little dab of the brakes and he'd be fine. Looks a nice smooth easy road.
He wasn't minding his own business as he pushes back in and then shouts at the driver for using his phone. Calling someone a nutter isn't always going to get a great reaction.
Still absolutely no need for the drivers' action after that. Pushing the biker off the road is dangerous and deserves to be punished for it, Also for the punch in the mouth.
One daft driving mistake lead to "bike rage" that lead to proper road rage.
The van driver will get hammered for that. However a little common sense by the cyclist and that would have been a nothing incident.
Sometimes you need to be man enough to back off and let an incident go. He couldn't.
You've got to work and hard and put up a lengthy post to find anything other than that.
heebeegeetee said:
The driver ran the cyclist off the road.
You've got to work and hard and put up a lengthy post to find anything other than that.
I never said anything otherwise. I said the exact same. You've got to work and hard and put up a lengthy post to find anything other than that.
All I said was the rider could have used some common sense and backed out. He was aiming for confrontation. He isn't there to police the road and shout at other road users.
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