Ex-Motability cars - buying them 2nd hand and taxing them
Discussion
Rich_W said:
wolf1 said:
If you're refering to the recipient of the motability car then yes you are talking codswallop as the motability scheme pays for the servicing etc. If it was the dealership then that's fraud and I'm sure we'd all like to know which dealership it was that is taking funds that come from our taxes.
Yeah, Well done for not understanding! 
Car comes in to dealer. Dealer phones Motobility and says "Can we have authority to service your car. It will cost X for a Y service"
Motorbility, then say "No, but you can do a lube service (oil and filter)"
Dealer does as instructed. Check the stamps in the book. It's VERY rare for Motorbility to authorise much more than the absolute bare minimum. They are even worse than Lease companies in that regard. Generally lease companies get the work done (at a reduced labour rate) except anything the customer has damaged (though this varies) and they don't generally authorise tyres. Even when they are illegal!
They get tyre places to do them as hey get better rates.EDITED TO ADD
other thread said:
My fiat went back with the 'Dynamic' badge missing on one side, a huge scratch on the wheel arch, & knackered engine.
Still got my good condition bonus!
the motability checks are a lot more relaxed than other lease / finance condition checks.
And herein lies the problem! Motorbility as a typical Gubberment funded venture, staffed by tStill got my good condition bonus!
the motability checks are a lot more relaxed than other lease / finance condition checks.
tty Civil servants. Simply DOESN'T CARE about the condition the pikies return them in. And of course, we all know that if Pikey A smashed st out of his (heavily subsidised by me and you) car and doesn't get a financial penalty then do you think he'll look after his next car in the way PH would approve of?Edited by Rich_W on Saturday 27th March 21:54
750turbo said:
Rich_W said:
wolf1 said:
If you're refering to the recipient of the motability car then yes you are talking codswallop as the motability scheme pays for the servicing etc. If it was the dealership then that's fraud and I'm sure we'd all like to know which dealership it was that is taking funds that come from our taxes.
Yeah, Well done for not understanding! Car comes in to dealer. Dealer phones Motobility and says "Can we have authority to service your car. It will cost X for a Y service"
Motorbility, then say "No, but you can do a lube service (oil and filter)"
Dealer does as instructed. Check the stamps in the book. It's VERY rare for Motorbility to authorise much more than the absolute bare minimum. They are even worse than Lease companies in that regard. Generally lease companies get the work done (at a reduced labour rate) except anything the customer has damaged (though this varies) and they don't generally authorise tyres. Even when they are illegal!
They get tyre places to do them as hey get better rates.EDITED TO ADD
other thread said:
My fiat went back with the 'Dynamic' badge missing on one side, a huge scratch on the wheel arch, & knackered engine.
Still got my good condition bonus!
the motability checks are a lot more relaxed than other lease / finance condition checks.
And herein lies the problem! Motorbility as a typical Gubberment funded venture, staffed by tStill got my good condition bonus!
the motability checks are a lot more relaxed than other lease / finance condition checks.
tty Civil servants. Simply DOESN'T CARE about the condition the pikies return them in. And of course, we all know that if Pikey A smashed st out of his (heavily subsidised by me and you) car and doesn't get a financial penalty then do you think he'll look after his next car in the way PH would approve of?Edited by Rich_W on Saturday 27th March 21:54
Rich_W said:
wolf1 said:
If you're refering to the recipient of the motability car then yes you are talking codswallop as the motability scheme pays for the servicing etc. If it was the dealership then that's fraud and I'm sure we'd all like to know which dealership it was that is taking funds that come from our taxes.
Yeah, Well done for not understanding! Car comes in to dealer. Dealer phones Motobility and says "Can we have authority to service your car. It will cost X for a Y service"
Motorbility, then say "No, but you can do a lube service (oil and filter)"
Dealer does as instructed. Check the stamps in the book. It's VERY rare for Motorbility to authorise much more than the absolute bare minimum. They are even worse than Lease companies in that regard. Generally lease companies get the work done (at a reduced labour rate) except anything the customer has damaged (though this varies) and they don't generally authorise tyres. Even when they are illegal!
They get tyre places to do them as hey get better rates.EDITED TO ADD
other thread said:
My fiat went back with the 'Dynamic' badge missing on one side, a huge scratch on the wheel arch, & knackered engine.
Still got my good condition bonus!
the motability checks are a lot more relaxed than other lease / finance condition checks.
And herein lies the problem! Motorbility as a typical Gubberment funded venture, staffed by tStill got my good condition bonus!
the motability checks are a lot more relaxed than other lease / finance condition checks.
tty Civil servants. Simply DOESN'T CARE about the condition the pikies return them in. And of course, we all know that if Pikey A smashed st out of his (heavily subsidised by me and you) car and doesn't get a financial penalty then do you think he'll look after his next car in the way PH would approve of?Edited by Rich_W on Saturday 27th March 21:54
The post you quoted was one car. What about the rest of the car, the scratch was done by a friend 1 week before it went back, the glue on the badge went so it fell off. The engine was an early JTD, the knackered was because of poor service by the dealer.
Tyres are always done once they have 2mm tread or less, nothing more. What do you want them to do, replace at 5mm?
All my cars have gone back in perfect condition, albeit the points you quoted above. The rest of the car was perfect.
Do you actually know how the motabiltiy vehicles are paid for, or have you just heard down the pub?
tim2100 said:
The post you quoted was one car. What about the rest of the car, the scratch was done by a friend 1 week before it went back, the glue on the badge went so it fell off. The engine was an early JTD, the knackered was because of poor service by the dealer.
But you STILL got your bonus? Despite that little lot? Any of the big fleet companies would have kicked off over that lot. With financial penalties. There's no incentive to look after the car. It's the hire car mentality. Only in this case worse, as you won't get any problem when you hand it back.And whilst I don't know very much about Fiats. I would be surprised if the engine was knackered by the dealer.
Rich_W said:
tim2100 said:
The post you quoted was one car. What about the rest of the car, the scratch was done by a friend 1 week before it went back, the glue on the badge went so it fell off. The engine was an early JTD, the knackered was because of poor service by the dealer.
But you STILL got your bonus? Despite that little lot? Any of the big fleet companies would have kicked off over that lot. With financial penalties. There's no incentive to look after the car. It's the hire car mentality. Only in this case worse, as you won't get any problem when you hand it back.And whilst I don't know very much about Fiats. I would be surprised if the engine was knackered by the dealer.
You obviously don't know much.. The JTD engine was crap in the fiats, Fiat taking 9 months to correct warranty work certainly didn't help.
Doesn't matter as I am still a pikey who doesn't look after the cars
However if the cars are below an acceptable standard then they do charge for the repairs. Granted not as much as big fleet companies (who I have worked for) charge but still a charge. Not what you want if you then have to pay out a deposit for the next car.
Part of the contract of having the car is to maintain and look after the car. If the service schedule is followed but is only 'lube' service, is that the fault of the hirer? The cars are checked before they go back with a list of issues that need to be corrected before they go back. If the list is not done then either an insurance claim is made or it is the responsibility of the hirer to correct any damage.
I got my first car with 11 month disability (free) tax on it, When the renewal came thru it had £0.00 on it and I had to goto the local DVLA office to get a new tax disc, and while I was there they sent my V5c off to be changed, only cost the price of the new tax disc which was given to me while I was there and v5c came thru the post a week or so later.
Bit OT, and not wanting to offend anyone with facts here (especially as I am 95% certain to be "scum" 
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The Motability Car Scheme is administered on a contract basis by Motability Operations, a not-for-profit private company owned by the major banks. The Wheelchair and Scooter Scheme is operated by Route2mobility, a limited company, under contract to Motability. It's not the government.
They are the largest private fleet in Britain, possibly Europe. It's not a government scheme.
Everyone who takes a contract hire car from Motability signs over the money that they would get from either Higher rate Mobility component or the War Pension Mobility Supplement. The cars are not "free"
Either disabled people get the money that they are entitles to directly, or use it to fund a vehicle.
Motability are very hot on the condition of vehicles, both servicing and the return of vehicles, as it directly affects the money that they get, which affects how many grants they can provide.
Yes, I have a motability vehicle and it has been great - an appropriate vehicle at a reasonable cost.
)The Motability Car Scheme is administered on a contract basis by Motability Operations, a not-for-profit private company owned by the major banks. The Wheelchair and Scooter Scheme is operated by Route2mobility, a limited company, under contract to Motability. It's not the government.
They are the largest private fleet in Britain, possibly Europe. It's not a government scheme.
Everyone who takes a contract hire car from Motability signs over the money that they would get from either Higher rate Mobility component or the War Pension Mobility Supplement. The cars are not "free"
Either disabled people get the money that they are entitles to directly, or use it to fund a vehicle.
Motability are very hot on the condition of vehicles, both servicing and the return of vehicles, as it directly affects the money that they get, which affects how many grants they can provide.
Yes, I have a motability vehicle and it has been great - an appropriate vehicle at a reasonable cost.
Wife bought a 3 year old Motorbility Pug 306 back in 2003.
tidy car pretty well reliable except odd frenchcar things it was clean, tidy, apart from knackered door seals where a big guy had been heaving himself out and the seat belt warning light wire had been cut.
So to all the know it all, heard it in the pub or saw it on the internet so it must be true replies on here, think before you post about pikeys (who wouldn't get a motorbility car per se) and cars getting trashed, think again
tidy car pretty well reliable except odd frenchcar things it was clean, tidy, apart from knackered door seals where a big guy had been heaving himself out and the seat belt warning light wire had been cut.
So to all the know it all, heard it in the pub or saw it on the internet so it must be true replies on here, think before you post about pikeys (who wouldn't get a motorbility car per se) and cars getting trashed, think again
PhilJ20 said:
Bit OT, and not wanting to offend anyone with facts here (especially as I am 95% certain to be "scum" )
The Motability Car Scheme is administered on a contract basis by Motability Operations, a not-for-profit private company owned by the major banks. The Wheelchair and Scooter Scheme is operated by Route2mobility, a limited company, under contract to Motability. It's not the government.
They are the largest private fleet in Britain, possibly Europe. It's not a government scheme.
Everyone who takes a contract hire car from Motability signs over the money that they would get from either Higher rate Mobility component or the War Pension Mobility Supplement. The cars are not "free"
Either disabled people get the money that they are entitles to directly, or use it to fund a vehicle.
Motability are very hot on the condition of vehicles, both servicing and the return of vehicles, as it directly affects the money that they get, which affects how many grants they can provide.
Yes, I have a motability vehicle and it has been great - an appropriate vehicle at a reasonable cost.
Spot on!)The Motability Car Scheme is administered on a contract basis by Motability Operations, a not-for-profit private company owned by the major banks. The Wheelchair and Scooter Scheme is operated by Route2mobility, a limited company, under contract to Motability. It's not the government.
They are the largest private fleet in Britain, possibly Europe. It's not a government scheme.
Everyone who takes a contract hire car from Motability signs over the money that they would get from either Higher rate Mobility component or the War Pension Mobility Supplement. The cars are not "free"
Either disabled people get the money that they are entitles to directly, or use it to fund a vehicle.
Motability are very hot on the condition of vehicles, both servicing and the return of vehicles, as it directly affects the money that they get, which affects how many grants they can provide.
Yes, I have a motability vehicle and it has been great - an appropriate vehicle at a reasonable cost.
tim2100 said:
TO THE OP.
You can just take the V5 to the local DVLA office and ask for the taxation class to be changed. Or pay the tax to the supplying dealer and get them to do it.
Thanks! I'll let him know to take the v5 to his local DVLA office to get it changed; he has blown a gasket today as he won't get his cover note 'til Tuesday afternoon at the earliest, so can't get the tax disc sorted 'til after then; he won't need a valid tax disc to get the v5 changed tomorrow will he?You can just take the V5 to the local DVLA office and ask for the taxation class to be changed. Or pay the tax to the supplying dealer and get them to do it.
Erm what people forget is that Motability cars are not free. It costs about £200 a month for a car and that is taken from the DLA that they get. If they want an upmarket car there is a large non-refundable down payment too, which can be thousands. I have seen Motability cars in all conditions and I have seen privately owned new cars treated the same. I have never known Motabilty not to pay for the required service but they won't pay for consumables and do want it cheap as they usually have a rate agreed with the garage beforehand. Opionated a**eholes are normally the people who are scum but thanks for enlightening us with your narrow minded, bigoted views.
Rich_W, you are not painting yourself in a good light here. Your views are exactly that: 'views' and are not representative of all people that use this scheme. 
My Wife has a motability car, she is in full time employment, not a pikey and takes better care of her car than most.
As someone else has said the car is paid for from her DLA, it is not a 'free' car. She paid a deposit in the high 3 figure region in order to have a car she likes with the appropriate spec.
She has had 3 cars now since she has been on the scheme, she has always returned them in immaculate condition with very low miles. Absolute bargain for anyone fortunate enough to pick one up
But according to you she is a pikey that thrashes the car and returns it in terrible condition...
Edit: Just noticed the age of the post.. d'oh. Holy thread revival batman!
My Wife has a motability car, she is in full time employment, not a pikey and takes better care of her car than most.
As someone else has said the car is paid for from her DLA, it is not a 'free' car. She paid a deposit in the high 3 figure region in order to have a car she likes with the appropriate spec.
She has had 3 cars now since she has been on the scheme, she has always returned them in immaculate condition with very low miles. Absolute bargain for anyone fortunate enough to pick one up
But according to you she is a pikey that thrashes the car and returns it in terrible condition...
Edit: Just noticed the age of the post.. d'oh. Holy thread revival batman!
Edited by Scuba_steve on Wednesday 3rd November 15:37
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