The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 6)

[paulguitar]

Lord Marylebone said:

What a complete knobhead.

That pass was clearly far too close, and the fact that he turned down the offer of a course just tells you all you need to know. The worst bit is that he still says he "Doesn't know what he did wrong" and "doesn't understand".

Clearly a belligerent old git.

I wonder what his Pistonheads username is?

[InitialDave]

saaby93 said:

By Call up do you mean call out i.e. it isnt mentioned?

No, you are parsing out his sentence incorrectly.

He didn't say [I call up] [against the centre line]

He said [I call] [up against the centre line]

i.e. there is such a thing as riding up against the centre line, and he calls it primary position +

[ukbabz]

donkmeister said:

Demhcs said:

SmoothCriminal said:

Had this one yet?

Guy claims he's £4500 out of pocket.

Think the £1,800 fine is a complete piss take though.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10919215/...

He's a car driver, hence therefore is in league with the devil, and so is obviously at fault unlike our two wheeled hero knights of the road... Am I getting this right?

£4,500 ? Should've been £450,000 that'll teach 'em... (or not).

You don't think it was a close pass? Seems like all the other cars were at least a foot or two further away, and he was pulling back in before he's even past.
I'm not one for arbitrary "bikes need to be passed with half a mile either side" bks, but that was way too close.
Seems he could have had a slap on the wrist instead of going to court to argue that 50cm is 4 feet...
Bet his wife is perennially unsatisfied too if he thinks that's 4 feet...

100%

He's clearly speaking out of backside, the 4ft is probably closer to true if you go from his left arm rather than the left wing mirror. Sadly there are too many dheads like that guy who seem to enjoy squeezing past folk on bikes when the other carriage is clear.

[Byker28i]

jimmytheone said:

SpydieNut said:

some real WTF moments here, like at 2:20

Definitely some winning stupid prizes, like that crazy woman hanging out the window at 2.28, going for a darwin award this year
Also the prelude the the ferrari crash - a few careless throttle stabs - i'd not seen that bit before, only the resulting crash.

Ferrari one was where the James Cordon lookalike did a runner. Did they ever find him?

[motco]

Caught on my dashcam yesterday:


Cruising along in a line of traffic, approaching a junction with a minor road when the driver in front decides to be magnanimous and slam on his brakes at 45mph to let a car in from the right who was happy to take his turn as he should. The Honda ahead could have had a domino effect multiple shunt up his rear end.

[donteatpeople]

ScotHill said:

The other cars left more space than the driver that got prosecuted, and they didn't get prosecuted. It was a close pass where there was plenty of space on the other side of the road to make it safer, at minimal inconvenience to the driver, who chose not to do that.

Primary position isn't close to the centre line, it's in the middle of the lane, plenty of space for a vehicle to pass in either direction just beyond the other side of the line.

Drivers need to be aware that they need to take care around cyclists, that's literally it.

This stuff isn't rocket surgery.

That's the bit that really proves the incompetence for me. Absolutely no need for a close pass in that situation.

saaby93 said:

Solocle said:

saaby93 said:

By Call up do you mean call out i.e. it isnt mentioned?

I highlighted where it's mentioned. "Just left of the middle of the road" is what it's called.

It's also a common place for motorcyclists to ride.

it wasnt mentioned though that's something else - keeping left of the middle for turning right

Rule 72 is probably the better one to quote:

"Road positioning. When riding on the roads, there are two basic road positions you should adopt, depending on the situation.

1) Ride in the centre of your lane, to make yourself as clearly visible as possible, in the following situations

- on quiet roads or streets – if a faster vehicle comes up behind you, move to the left to enable them to overtake, if you can do so safely
- in slower-moving traffic - when the traffic around you starts to flow more freely, move over to the left if you can do so safely so that faster vehicles behind you can overtake
- at the approach to junctions or road narrowings where it would be unsafe for drivers to overtake you

2) When riding on busy roads, with vehicles moving faster than you, allow them to overtake where it is safe to do so whilst keeping at least 0.5 metres away, and further where it is safer, from the kerb edge. Remember that traffic on most dual carriageways moves quickly. Take extra care crossing slip roads."

[carlove]

motco said:

Caught on my dashcam yesterday:


Cruising along in a line of traffic, approaching a junction with a minor road when the driver in front decides to be magnanimous and slam on his brakes at 45mph to let a car in from the right who was happy to take his turn as he should. The Honda ahead could have had a domino effect multiple shunt up his rear end.

I’ve been on the other side of this, waiting to pull onto A64 which was very busy but moving fast, car approaching slams on the brakes to let me out, car behind nearly running into the back of them. I was happy waiting for a safe gap.

[Solocle]

donteatpeople said:

Rule 72 is probably the better one to quote:

"Road positioning. When riding on the roads, there are two basic road positions you should adopt, depending on the situation.

1) Ride in the centre of your lane, to make yourself as clearly visible as possible, in the following situations

- on quiet roads or streets – if a faster vehicle comes up behind you, move to the left to enable them to overtake, if you can do so safely
- in slower-moving traffic - when the traffic around you starts to flow more freely, move over to the left if you can do so safely so that faster vehicles behind you can overtake
- at the approach to junctions or road narrowings where it would be unsafe for drivers to overtake you

2) When riding on busy roads, with vehicles moving faster than you, allow them to overtake where it is safe to do so whilst keeping at least 0.5 metres away, and further where it is safer, from the kerb edge. Remember that traffic on most dual carriageways moves quickly. Take extra care crossing slip roads."

But equally those are "basic" road positions. Turning right is the clearest exception. The cycling section of the highway code also doesn't generally consider overtakes of slower moving vehicles and haring down hills at 40-60 mph. Such activities IMO call for "advanced" road positions.

For instance, going down Kirkstone pass and clocking in the 40s, there was one point where I offsided to straightline one of the bends. The characteristics of that descent were more like motorcycling than normal cycling.

[motco]

carlove said:

motco said:

Caught on my dashcam yesterday:


Cruising along in a line of traffic, approaching a junction with a minor road when the driver in front decides to be magnanimous and slam on his brakes at 45mph to let a car in from the right who was happy to take his turn as he should. The Honda ahead could have had a domino effect multiple shunt up his rear end.

I’ve been on the other side of this, waiting to pull onto A64 which was very busy but moving fast, car approaching slams on the brakes to let me out, car behind nearly running into the back of them. I was happy waiting for a safe gap.

Exactly! The people who do sporadically just stop like this (and I'm sorry to seem sexist but it's more often women in my experience) think they are behaving considerately - never mind the poor sod embedded in their rear bumper!

[Pistonheader101]

First time driving in over 10 years I've used my horn.

Suspect it would have been 50/50 on insurance blame if I had collided?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYewOtTvQUs

[Gareth79]

motco said:

Exactly! The people who do sporadically just stop like this (and I'm sorry to seem sexist but it's more often women in my experience) think they are behaving considerately - never mind the poor sod embedded in their rear bumper!

Reminds me of taking a trip with a (male) colleague years ago. We were heading into a town, light traffic going in, but a heavy queue coming out towards us. A car was waiting in a side road on our left to turn right. Colleague brakes and waves them out in front of us, they come out but obviously there was traffic coming towards us, so they had to wait halfway across the road until somebody oncoming stopped and let them in! I kinda gasped out of surprise and they were "eh, what?"

[Pistonheader101]

Link now working* sorry

[saaby93]

motco said:

Caught on my dashcam yesterday:


Cruising along in a line of traffic, approaching a junction with a minor road when the driver in front decides to be magnanimous and slam on his brakes at 45mph to let a car in from the right who was happy to take his turn as he should. The Honda ahead could have had a domino effect multiple shunt up his rear end.

Usally that type of video ends with the cam car having a biff up the rear
lucky

[ScotHill]

Pistonheader101 said:

First time driving in over 10 years I've used my horn.

Suspect it would have been 50/50 on insurance blame if I had collided?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYewOtTvQUs

Seems like you both started to pull into the right hand lane at the same time, they did it calmly at the same speed they were going whereas you accelerated into it and didn't respond for a number of seconds even though they were in your way, is that about right? Regardless of if they were turning right when they shouldn't your reaction times were abysmal for having a car directly in front of your path. And if you mentioned your horn why is there no sound on the video, would it show that you used your horn before your brake? I don't know about 50/50 but if you'd hit them you would have had to take a good long look at your driving in the mirror.

Am I doing this right?

[T6 vanman]

^^^ Courageous in getting the link to work ^^^

Whilst ... yes you could have taken (and did) the second lane from the first .... You left yourself open to risk from the MB that remaining in lane wouldn't have ... and for what gain over completing the o/t after the junction.
I'm teaching T6 junior on 'L' plates and keep saying .... keep in your lane around roundabouts / junctions and change lane once assessing it's safe

[carinaman]

Spotted from a newspaper link in the four men die in an M5 after launching off of a roundabout in Beds. thread.

A motorcyclist filtering on the A2 in Kent gets taken out by a lane changer:

https://youtu.be/4KiJYlwdTc4

Edited by carinaman on Thursday 16th June 21:09

[Demhcs]

T6 vanman said:

^^^ Courageous in getting the link to work ^^^

Whilst ... yes you could have taken (and did) the second lane from the first .... You left yourself open to risk from the MB that remaining in lane wouldn't have ... and for what gain over completing the o/t after the junction.
I'm teaching T6 junior on 'L' plates and keep saying .... keep in your lane around roundabouts / junctions and change lane once assessing it's safe

I was always taught to check my mirrors, then signal, then manoeuvre only if safe to do so when changing lanes - which seems to be something the merc driver has omitted. Has this requirement also been “updated” in the new Highway Code?

[Blakewater]

motco said:

carlove said:

motco said:

Caught on my dashcam yesterday:


Cruising along in a line of traffic, approaching a junction with a minor road when the driver in front decides to be magnanimous and slam on his brakes at 45mph to let a car in from the right who was happy to take his turn as he should. The Honda ahead could have had a domino effect multiple shunt up his rear end.

I’ve been on the other side of this, waiting to pull onto A64 which was very busy but moving fast, car approaching slams on the brakes to let me out, car behind nearly running into the back of them. I was happy waiting for a safe gap.

Exactly! The people who do sporadically just stop like this (and I'm sorry to seem sexist but it's more often women in my experience) think they are behaving considerately - never mind the poor sod embedded in their rear bumper!

Playing Devil's advocate, the Honda driver may have been concerned the Toyota driver wouldn't see him round the other right turning cars and would just pull out right in front of him. We've seen dashcam videos where that happens and criticised the person with priority for not anticipating the other driver not waiting.

[carinaman]

Blakewater said:

motco said:

carlove said:

motco said:

Caught on my dashcam yesterday:


Cruising along in a line of traffic, approaching a junction with a minor road when the driver in front decides to be magnanimous and slam on his brakes at 45mph to let a car in from the right who was happy to take his turn as he should. The Honda ahead could have had a domino effect multiple shunt up his rear end.

I’ve been on the other side of this, waiting to pull onto A64 which was very busy but moving fast, car approaching slams on the brakes to let me out, car behind nearly running into the back of them. I was happy waiting for a safe gap.

Exactly! The people who do sporadically just stop like this (and I'm sorry to seem sexist but it's more often women in my experience) think they are behaving considerately - never mind the poor sod embedded in their rear bumper!

Playing Devil's advocate, the Honda driver may have been concerned the Toyota driver wouldn't see him round the other right turning cars and would just pull out right in front of him. We've seen dashcam videos where that happens and criticised the person with priority for not anticipating the other driver not waiting.

I thought that too. I can understand the white car on the right wanting to get across the junction quickly but it wasn't obvious that they would then correctly stop.

I think rather than being courteous the Civic driver may have been cautious.

[heebeegeetee]

A fatal one here, with yet another shocking sentence.

https://youtu.be/EiOfrc5IWS4

Link to story https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/news/thames-val...