One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

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WD39

20,083 posts

118 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Jim AK said:
WD39 said:
Why would you want to drive at 60 on a country road?

I am constantly driving on these type of highways and 60 is far too fast. For the next few months these roads are heavily foliaged with plenty of blind bends.

The local traffic police highlight these roads as the most hazardous in the county.

Hey, let's slow down a bit.
The old Bint was doing HALF the posted limit ffs!

Il go out on a limb here & say SHE is the problem, as are people like you with the 'It's a limit, not a target' mentality.

I have a 60 limited, but wide, road near my home with several safe overtake spots & the times I drive that behind these Bint types, or maybe even you, at 25/30mph usually as close to the crown of the road as they can get & get flashed or hooted at when I SAFELY overtake absolutely beggars belief!
I'm very glad that I don't live near you with that attitude to motoring.

WD39

20,083 posts

118 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Jim AK said:
Liquid Knight said:
The thing about country roads is...




Always drive however fast you feel is safe. If someone overtakes you it's their choice. If you get overtaken don't let it deflate your ego and try to keep up you're putting yourself at undue risk.
True........ But.

AJXX's original post was about a 50 mph DC. WD bought country roads into the equation.
The last paragraph of AJXX post quoted country roads and the bufoons who drive them. (or something like that.)

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

185 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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I've changed my cycle route due to the way people drive country lanes this time of year. It's better in the Winter when you can see headlights. Now it's light enough and the tree lines are full foliage it's suicide.

My old blog wraps up the type of drivers you encounter at five in the morning. wink

my old blog said:
There are five types of drivers at half five in the morning.

1/ The "I should have gone to bed two hours earlier" type who drive six feet at a time because the can't concentrate enough to see any further up the road. These will SMIDSY you.

2/ The "I've overslept and now I have twenty minutes to drive a forty minute journey". After three cans of Redbull and four Pro-Plus these guys will take back roads to avoid the authorities but don't use them offen enough to know the road well. Slowing to 20mph for bends and driving up to 100+mph between corners.

3/ The ones who get out of thier boring bed leaving their boring wife (who's probably looking forward to the window cleaner because at least with him the sex isn't as boring), eating a boring breakfast while listening to tiresome FM (Radio 2), only to put on their boring clothes get into their boring car and drive the same boring route every day for the rest of their lives to their boring jobs. All to pay for the children that have been raised so nonchalantly they can hardly be arsed to get up for school let alone have the will or have been encouraged to get a paper round. I call these drivers "Autopilots". They have driven the same route so many times they know if a leaf has moved on the tree outside that house on the corner near the hedge that looks like like a cow. Every bump in the road, every braking point at every corner. They will also SMIDSY you because they're used to you being ten feet further up the road.

4/ The Vigulantees. These drivers get up extra early so they can critcise other drivers. The would have joined the I.A.M if it was free. Would have joined the Police if they didn't have that caution for shoplifting Kylies greatest hits from HMV. They're more than happy to shout at cyclist for holding the world up just before hitting a cue traffic.

5/ Carefull and considerate drivers. Who take the time to overtake safely and actually see cyclist in the first place.
In the interest of balance...

my old blog said:
The five types of cyclist you get on the roads...

1/ PoB "Pedestrians on Bikes". No lights, reflective gear, helmets or any road sence whatsoever. Ropey, neglected bikes that if there were a pedal powered M.O.T would fail on at least a dozen different things. These are a menace to any other road user even other cyclists. The will turn into traffic without looking or incapable of looking due to wearing a hooded jacket, deliberately wobble when you overtake and if you do hit one they have injury shysters for you on speed-dial.

2/ Ecocyclementalists. Ever stopped at a red light and a tramp looking hippy type on an old basket bike (probably nicked from the nearest Post Office) taps on your window and asked you...
"Why don't you cycle to work? Your car puts out the same amount of Carbon into the atmosphere every day as burning down a football field of trees".
...if so then you have met an ecocyclementalist (or Rob Newman). If you say anything other than...
"Really? How interesting; I'll look into that, or didn't you used to be the funny one in the Mary Whithouse Experience? How is David Bladybum?".
...they will wobble in front of you for the next half an hour at a steady three to five miles an hour. If you manage to overtake, you will be bombarded with abuse. "You've just killed another tree you censoredcensored sideways with a censored cabbage!"
Whatever you do, never point out the Carbon footprint of making a bicycle. wink

3/ DoB's "Drivers on Bikes" or BaC's "Born again Cyclist". New Years Resolutionists, midlife crisies and people who can't afford Petrol anymore. As drivers they are well aware of the hazards both the road and cyclist present. Wear more hi-viz than is strictly necessary and are lit up like Blackpool pleasure beach. One problem with DoB's is whatever little things that annoy you in a car with be the most irritating thing in the world when you cycle. I think it's because in a car you're traveling several time the speed you are on a bike so when you see something in a car you barely have enough time to roll your eyes, on a bike you can dwell a little too much about it. Weapon of choice for DoB's (like me) is dual suspension (due to the potholes) mountain bike with slicks or a Hybrid. BaC's are in for a shock. Probably haven't been on the saddle for twenty years and the shock of doing exercise, not being in their nice warm cars and bikes never used to chaife when they were younger. Means for the first couple of weeks they'll be covered in sweat and walking around like a George Michael fan. Needless to say after three weeks they'll be back in their cars waiting for fair weather or the bike will be on eBay.

4/ Lycralists. Usually hunt in packs and ride three or four abreast on country lanes. Several thousand Pounds worth of metal under them. Looking over their shoulders often, not for hazards or traffic but for the imaginary Mario Chipolini, Lance Armstrong, that Scotish bloke who sells Wheatabix (Mark Have-a-dish?) chasing them (other cerials are available and some even taste better than the box). Single L.E.D lights to save as much weight as possible when it gets dark so SMIDSY's waiting to happen and it's never their fault. In towns and cities Lycrlists will not use cycle lanes as they are for lesser cyclists and treat the road like their own private overtaking lane.

5/ Cycle-antees also known as Cycyoutube-ists, Basically a bunch of aholes with cameras strapped to their bikes (front and rear views) or their helmets. If you drive with the tiniest lack of consideration expect your number plate to appear on a Youtube search with "cut me up, tailgated me, left hook, failed to this, failed to that"...
Completely self absorbed and with an air of smugness that makes the Ecocyclementalists look easy going. Preaching the gospel of the "Road Traffic Act" to every single driver they come across who puts a foot wrong and then posting videos of themselves doing between 5 and 10mph over the speed limit in other clips. With the excuse "Section eighty-something of the RTA 1988 says "Motor Vehicles" and cycles don't have engines so we are above the Law" despite the fact you are on the road you are Traffic and since the Road Traffic Act was revised in 2006 to include all Traffic something else you can thank the G-Wizz for. Criticising drivers on one video whilst showing a disregard for the same set of laws in another in my book makes them tts of the highest order. Some even stop and have a go at drivers only to edit the video in such a way the number plate will appear later with "road rage cycle hater" in the title. A classic case of something that started out as a good idea, posting videos to help raise awareness; that has sadly become a battle to get Youtube views and Twitter followers, tuning their commute into a popularity contest for the wrong reasons.
I stick to a bus route and old "A" roads now to avoid any potential issues. The road I used to use had a fatal collision last month where a driver took a racing line round a blind bend and hit someone walking a horse. frown

Jim AK

4,029 posts

126 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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WD39 said:
I'm very glad that I don't live near you with that attitude to motoring.
And what, pray tell, is 'That attitude"?

One that means I'd like to drive at or near the posted limit? I would hazard a guess that whichever authority decided it was a safe road for 60 mph have more of an idea than you.

Driving the road at 30, as close to the crown as possible, that seems to be the norm with 'Bints' is surely a wrong & dangerous 'attitude to motoring' & then flashing & hooting those that pass swiftly & safely as well?

Just wtf is it with some (elderly) drivers?

  • edit to override autocorrect..... It was wrong!*


Edited by Jim AK on Tuesday 10th May 19:21

Jim AK

4,029 posts

126 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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WD39 said:
The last paragraph of AJXX post quoted country roads and the bufoons who drive them. (or something like that.)
Indeed.

Take it in context with the rest of the post & the mention of the applied speed limit.

Obviously not talking about a road with grass up the centre & a bank 2 feet either side of the car!

Pan Pan Pan

10,005 posts

113 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Liquid Knight said:
The thing about country roads is...




Always drive however fast you feel is safe. If someone overtakes you it's their choice. If you get overtaken don't let it deflate your ego and try to keep up you're putting yourself at undue risk.
The rule I was taught was to never go faster than can be stopped in, in the distance which can be seen to be clear. Of course this will vary depending on the road, weather conditions, the car, and the driver.
The whole point of using motor vehicles is to get from one place to another in less time than would be taken by other forms of transport whilst keeping at, or within the limits set by the road, weather conditions, posted limits, and of course the drivers skill. If a person does not want to do that, or have the ability to do that, perhaps they should just get the bus, and let someone else do the driving, or even walk.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

185 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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"Drive faster or walk"

Very Pistonheads. biggrin

WJNB

2,637 posts

163 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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The selfish with their caravans & motor homes Sorry I suspect this suggestion SO expected as to be a cliché.

WD39

20,083 posts

118 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Jim AK said:
WD39 said:
I'm very glad that I don't live near you with that attitude to motoring.
And what, prey tell, is 'That attitude"?

One that means I'd like to drive at or near the posted limit? I would hazard a guess that whichever authority decided it was a safe road for 60 mph have more of an idea than you.

Driving the road at 30, as close to the crown as possible, that seems to be the norm with 'Bints' is surely a wrong & dangerous 'attitude to motoring' & then flashing & hooting those that pass swiftly & safely as well?

Just wtf is it with some (elderly) drivers?
That 'older drivers' who are, let's face it, mostly in no hurry and drive a little slower, are often seen as the enemy who are to be treated with contempt because of their advanced years.

Don't forget, todays crusties were yesterdays boy racers in their Ford Anglias, Hillman Imps and Vauxhall Novas.

They have been there, done it all and bought the grandad vest.

So slack us some cut.




simonr100

640 posts

119 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Audi - why do they all seem to be driven by knobs?

Pan Pan Pan

10,005 posts

113 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Liquid Knight said:
"Drive faster or walk"

Very Pistonheads. biggrin
Or really just drive to what the road, weather conditions, vehicle type and posted limits allow. To do any thing else takes away the whole point of using any motor vehicle.

Black_S3

2,698 posts

190 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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WD39 said:
That 'older drivers' who are, let's face it, mostly in no hurry and drive a little slower, are often seen as the enemy who are to be treated with contempt because of their advanced years.

Don't forget, todays crusties were yesterdays boy racers in their Ford Anglias, Hillman Imps and Vauxhall Novas.

They have been there, done it all and bought the grandad vest.

So slack us some cut.
Far eastern females seam to hit the irritating driver category much more than the oldies. There's your slack smile.

AJXX1

334 posts

121 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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WD39 said:
That 'older drivers' who are, let's face it, mostly in no hurry and drive a little slower, are often seen as the enemy who are to be treated with contempt because of their advanced years.
Sorry, but there is a considerable difference between driving "a little slower" and going 50% or less of the advised limit on the road.

I'm fine with people who want to slow down "a little", but if you're doing 20+ MPH under the posted speed limit then I'd question if you're still fit to be able to drive, perhaps your "advanced years" have caught up with you and it's time to sign up for a bus pass?

I mean really, take the example I posted, old bint driving at 20-odd MPH on a busy DC - should have been pulled and licence revoked until she resit her test IMO.

Muddle238

3,938 posts

115 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Once upon a time...

..on the outskirts of Birmingham, was a knob. While racing his mate in an old chavved up Astra around a motorway island, Mr. TDI Audi abruptly cut in front of me while slamming on the anchors to avoid bumming his mate in the Vauxhall. I gave him a flash of the lights, he pulls away leaving the roundabout then his neanderthal mental processing ability eventually clocks that somebody thought he was a knob. He grunts and hoots and celebrates this achievement by again, standing on the anchors and brake checking me to a stop. Happily, my horn is loud and with the strawberry salesman in the layby plus a few parked up lorry drivers scowling down at this grey streak of diesel misery, the neanderthal having jumped about inside his rotbox squealing a great deal, decided to disappear into his own cloud of diesel smoke, happily never to be seen again.

The end.

Muddle238

3,938 posts

115 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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M669 POL

Displaying a fk you attitude to everyone else. Firstly forces his way through one of those stupid traffic-calming things when he doesn't have priority. Then he decides next best course of action is to give the middle finger salute. Noticed there was a pink child seat in the back of the car, no doubt will be raised with the same attitude as the parents. Lovely.

Blown2CV

29,170 posts

205 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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conkerman said:
WD39 said:
Why would you want to drive at 60 on a country road?

I am constantly driving on these type of highways and 60 is far too fast. For the next few months these roads are heavily foliaged with plenty of blind bends.

The local traffic police highlight these roads as the most hazardous in the county.

Hey, let's slow down a bit.
Weapons Grade.
Absolutely. 60 is sometimes too fast, but no-one is saying that you have to drive at 60 for the whole of an NSL stretch. That would be as stupid as saying everyone just slow down mkay.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

188 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Muddle238 said:


M669 POL

Displaying a fk you attitude to everyone else. Firstly forces his way through one of those stupid traffic-calming things when he doesn't have priority. Then he decides next best course of action is to give the middle finger salute. Noticed there was a pink child seat in the back of the car, no doubt will be raised with the same attitude as the parents. Lovely.
To be honest if he has to drive an M reg Rover 400 his life must be pretty st, so you can take some small comfort in that.

AJXX1

334 posts

121 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Muddle238 said:


Once upon a time...
Why not send the video to the plod for a follow up and "education" on dangerous driving/not being a knob?

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

181 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Janesy B said:
To be honest if he has to drive an M reg Rover 400 his life must be pretty st, so you can take some small comfort in that.
Knew a retired architect who was loaded had a lush house but he last car was a 1.1l p reg metro that he paid £81 a year to insure, he wasn't into cars in his older days. He had a pretty good life.

Jim AK

4,029 posts

126 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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WD39 said:
That 'older drivers' who are, let's face it, mostly in no hurry and drive a little slower, are often seen as the enemy who are to be treated with contempt because of their advanced years.

Don't forget, todays crusties were yesterdays boy racers in their Ford Anglias, Hillman Imps and Vauxhall Novas.

They have been there, done it all and bought the grandad vest.

So slack us some cut.
Today's crusties are just that. I'm not really bothered who or what you (they) were, where you (they) have been, what you (they) did or the type of apparel you (they) chose to purchase! Don't suppose you (they) care what I'm up to either.

I'm more interested in what you (they) are. In some cases downright dangerous.

Cut would happily be slack if you (they) didn't hog the crown of the road at half the posted speed limit then repeatedly flash your (their) lights & sound the horn at anybody who wants to go about their business & feels the need to safely & swiftly overtake.

Please, just keep safely to the left at the speed you (they) feel safe with & then we can pass you (them) in an even safer manner.




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