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deltashad

6,731 posts

198 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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I work for Shell, I've been enjoying regular pay rises and bonus' for the past two years now.
As a Shell employee I'm also entitled to great fuel savings.
I couldn't care less about struggling business or people who can't afford to fill their car, pay for food bills and heating etc as everything is going up in price.

If you and your campaign mess with my earnings I'll come down there and burn your tent down.

tangerine_sedge

4,851 posts

219 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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10 Pence Short said:
As a proportion of income, we're not taxed particularly heavily compared to other western nations.

It's perfectly logical that the balance of what goes to comprise your taxes varies from country to country.

It's perfectly illogical to say because fuel is taxed less in another country that we're being ripped off.
Get out of here with your logic, and well thought out arguments...

deltashad

6,731 posts

198 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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I wouldn't come down and burn your tent down really, would cost me far too much money on fuel as I live in Scotland. But in all honesty, things are quite good for the offshore community, and the taxes emposed by the UK government on all oil operators is massive, to the point of considering to move out of UK water, which, would be disastrous for revenue.

The cost of fuel ten years ago was 70 pence per litre, thats doubled now.
I find that a little hard to justify when public transport is a digrace in our rural settings. If you can't run a car then you'll have problems getting a job you can get to on time.

Edited by deltashad on Friday 24th February 15:03

BoostMonkey

574 posts

186 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Soovy said:
BoostMonkey said:
Soovy said:
Look, fuel's expensive. There is nothing we can do about it. The gubberment got elected, and it's all tax tax tax.

A few people in donkey jackets in Parliament Square will make no difference whatsoever.
What an absolutely crap attitude to have; I’m not advocating mass strikes like many of the trade unions love to do. But if people did not challenge the status quo then the world would be a far worse place.

If enough of the populous voiced that tax on fuel was too high then the government would have to respond. But at the same time these people would also have to allow less spending on public services, an I’m afraid with the UK’s current general attitude this is something that will not change in the near term.
I for one would welcome less public expenditure (not including construction, for future investment reasons) but the issue is much wider than just fuel duties, and the assertion of what do we really want the government to be spending our money on.
You're dreaming. The government does not GIVE A FLYING F CK WHAT YOU OR I THINK.

They DO NOT CARE.



As the earlier poster said, I've stopped looking at my payslip. I just try to forget the thousands and thousands every month that are stolen from me to pay for the lazy, feckless and uninvited.

The only way out is to leave, and I have responsbilities here for now, so I have no choice.
On a personnel level I 100% agree with you, that as a member of the public I feel that the government takes little notice of anything, ever. I especially agree with you on my tax rate, which well lets not go any further in to that minefield.

But alternately from a business point of view, and my relationship with various government departments, they often do care and want to take note of what we are saying. Especially in the current climate, but I wish they would kick the banks up the arse to get them lending again at sensible levels.

However government department interpretation of what we, as an industry are saying is often skewed by their own motives (I think this is the crux of the situation). This is true of fuel duties, and there reliance of trotting out the same crap repetitive arguments to justify the tax grab.
Their own warped political motive’s additionally causes them to come to conclusions which defies all logic, and due to the manner in which our political system operates can appear correct at times (to them).

deltashad

6,731 posts

198 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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From 2005-2008 I worked in Libya, it cost 7 dina to fill a VW Golf 1.6 fuel tank.
That equates to around £2.50, they thought that was expensive.