The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

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lord trumpton

7,492 posts

128 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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LarJammer said:
this is from this morning, skip to 1:30.
https://youtu.be/yQ-1fnuXVl4
nothing terribly exciting im afraid, just someone who appears to be offended by my presence.
It's hard to tell precisely, but it does appear you were driving and accelerating quite fast, just razzing around.

You come up behind someone who is going a lot slower and you zoom up their ass. I'd say both you and the other car were both behaving a bit silly smile

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

107 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Ahhh come on guys.....we all like to "make progress" on a town ring road at rush hour, the wide open road and all that

SpeedMattersNot

4,506 posts

198 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
What is the point of people steaming up behind a car that is blatantly going slow and get really close, why not hold back and go for an overtake with a lot more visibility of the road ahead.

What is achieved by going right up there arse, do you expect them to move out the way, it is a mentality I never understand, but usually seen by 'youths' and inexperienced drivers who don't plan ahead.

I was thinking about getting a cam, but I see stuff daily and it is part of life, I just don't want to be one of those people who film events and post them up.
I'll put my hand up.

If I am driving along a straight road with clear visibility and a person pulls out so that I have to adjust my speed, they are a . If they then continue to stay at say, 40mph in a national speed limit road, they are even more of a . If they then continue to slow down to 5mph to pull off the road into a small side turn, then they shouldn't be on the roads.

Whilst this did not happen in this particular clip, it happens fairly frequently. I am guilty of letting people know that their incompetence has had an impact on other people. People also do this at the shops with their trolleys. What makes them think this is OK?

Wouldn't buy a dashcam to capture that stuff though, as you say it's just part of driving (life) but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered an issue.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

107 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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SpeedMattersNot said:
'll put my hand up.

If I am driving along a straight road with clear visibility and a person pulls out so that I have to adjust my speed, they are a . If they then continue to stay at say, 40mph in a national speed limit road, they are even more of a . If they then continue to slow down to 5mph to pull off the road into a small side turn, then they shouldn't be on the roads.

Whilst this did not happen in this particular clip, it happens fairly frequently. I am guilty of letting people know that their incompetence has had an impact on other people. People also do this at the shops with their trolleys. What makes them think this is OK?

Wouldn't buy a dashcam to capture that stuff though, as you say it's just part of driving (life) but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered an issue.
err Speeds limits are that...LIMITS not a requirement.
?? An old or Disabled person, an inexperienced driver, delicate load ?? and many many more reasons to be driving at a speed of their choice......calm down

Vipers

32,968 posts

230 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Noodle1982 said:
Here's a clip from a cyclist's headcam of one of the most dangerous manoeuvres by a car user that I have ever seen, no surprise it was a female driver. I'm amazed that there were no fatalities considering the severity of it...



https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=170437...
Cyclist is a dick head. Did he have to slow down, did he have to stop, no the car didn't hinder him at all.




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Laurel Green

30,802 posts

234 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Vipers said:
Cyclist is a dick head. Did he have to slow down, did he have to stop, no the car didn't hinder him at all.




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Agree! Some folk are letting these cameras go to their heads.

mattlad

261 posts

167 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Laurel Green said:
Agree! Some folk are letting these cameras go to their heads.
Especially in his case, camera on head goes to head. D1ck head.rolleyes

SpeedMattersNot

4,506 posts

198 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Stickyfinger said:
SpeedMattersNot said:
'll put my hand up.

If I am driving along a straight road with clear visibility and a person pulls out so that I have to adjust my speed, they are a . If they then continue to stay at say, 40mph in a national speed limit road, they are even more of a . If they then continue to slow down to 5mph to pull off the road into a small side turn, then they shouldn't be on the roads.

Whilst this did not happen in this particular clip, it happens fairly frequently. I am guilty of letting people know that their incompetence has had an impact on other people. People also do this at the shops with their trolleys. What makes them think this is OK?

Wouldn't buy a dashcam to capture that stuff though, as you say it's just part of driving (life) but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered an issue.
err Speeds limits are that...LIMITS not a requirement.
?? An old or Disabled person, an inexperienced driver, delicate load ?? and many many more reasons to be driving at a speed of their choice......calm down
Other than inexperience, why are the reasons you've stated an excuse for inconsiderate driving?

It's perfectly reasonable to expect people not to pull out in front of you so that you have to adjust your speed.

Reference to the shopping centres. It's not a requirement to leave your trolley in a reasonable location, but if you don't, you're still a tt.

LarJammer

2,247 posts

212 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Jeez, like i said, nothing terribly exciting... its not worth arguing about. anyway, that vid has had a huge number of hits in a short time, would you like another?


https://youtu.be/1zzptGFbKsw

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

107 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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SpeedMattersNot said:
ther than inexperience, why are the reasons you've stated an excuse for inconsiderate driving?

It's perfectly reasonable to expect people not to pull out in front of you so that you have to adjust your speed.

Reference to the shopping centres. It's not a requirement to leave your trolley in a reasonable location, but if you don't, you're still a tt.
A disabled person turning onto a 60mph road and you slowing to 40mph because that is their considered safe speed is not inconsiderate.....do you say the same for a HGV or a Coach ?

LarJammer said:
Jeez, like i said, nothing terribly exciting... its not worth arguing about. anyway, that vid has had a huge number of hits in a short time, would you like another?


https://youtu.be/1zzptGFbKsw
Daddy ?....what are Indicators for ?


Edited by Stickyfinger on Wednesday 10th February 23:01

Funk

26,378 posts

211 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
I was thinking about getting a cam, but I see stuff daily and it is part of life, I just don't want to be one of those people who film mundane events and post them up.
Psst - most of us have them so we can remove the 'lying ' aspect of an altercation/accident with someone who has no hesitation in denying their culpability.

Mine lives on my screen and I think I've uploaded two clips in the years I've had it and they were exceptionally good examples of bad driving by others.

Finally I'm guessing there's a reason you're on the thread - clearly you must enjoy looking at some of the videos posted, none of which would happen if no-one posted their clips...?

SpeedMattersNot

4,506 posts

198 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Stickyfinger said:
SpeedMattersNot said:
ther than inexperience, why are the reasons you've stated an excuse for inconsiderate driving?

It's perfectly reasonable to expect people not to pull out in front of you so that you have to adjust your speed.

Reference to the shopping centres. It's not a requirement to leave your trolley in a reasonable location, but if you don't, you're still a tt.
A disabled person turning onto a 60mph road and you slowing to 40mph because that is their considered safe speed is not inconsiderate.....do you say the same for a HGV or a Coach ?
I disagree. I think it is inconsiderate to make other road users slow down, if you could just wait another handful of seconds. And yes, I do think the same of an HGV or a Coach...if it's a long string of traffic, I might flash them out if they're lucky. If it's me, doing my own speed but then have to brake because someone has pulled out...that is inconsiderate of them.

The same if people walk slowly on the pavement 3-wide. The same if people stop and talk on the entrance/exit to the shops. Again, the same if people walk out into the main flow of pedestrians using their phones and dawdle...I don't see why you shouldn't expect people to be courteous and considerate for others. Perhaps you're one of those people?

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

107 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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You have a frustrating life.
I would reconsider your definition of considerate if I was you, you seem to have a bit of a victim complex. Or maybe you are just the "standard" twonk in a de-badged TD BMW who thinks they own the road ?

SpeedMattersNot

4,506 posts

198 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Stickyfinger said:
You have a frustrating life.
I would reconsider your definition of considerate if I was you, you seem to have a bit of a victim complex or are you just the "standard" twonk in a de-badged TD BMW who thinks they own the road ?
I disagree, it's actually very rewarding to be considerate.

Anyway, enough of the high rocking-horse antics.

Exposed: UK Dash Cams (Bad Drivers, Road Rage & Crashes) Compilation #8 [2016]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttWWWqBBQjg

Martin350

3,782 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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SpeedMattersNot said:
'll put my hand up.

If I am driving along a straight road with clear visibility and a person pulls out so that I have to adjust my speed, they are a . If they then continue to stay at say, 40mph in a national speed limit road, they are even more of a . If they then continue to slow down to 5mph to pull off the road into a small side turn, then they shouldn't be on the roads.

Whilst this did not happen in this particular clip, it happens fairly frequently. I am guilty of letting people know that their incompetence has had an impact on other people. People also do this at the shops with their trolleys. What makes them think this is OK?

Wouldn't buy a dashcam to capture that stuff though, as you say it's just part of driving (life) but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered an issue.
Ironic user name!? scratchchin

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

228 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Stickyfinger said:
You have a frustrating life.
I would reconsider your definition of considerate if I was you, you seem to have a bit of a victim complex. Or maybe you are just the "standard" twonk in a de-badged TD BMW who thinks they own the road ?
Sorry Fingers, you've got this one wrong. There is a perfectly reasonable expectation that it should not be a lack of ability on the part of a driver which renders the speed limit unattainable. Poor conditions, yes. Special circumstances (funeral cortege perhaps), absolutely. Steering wheel operative too old, doddery, infirm, young, inexperienced, hopeless etc, no, absolutely not.




rainmakerraw

1,222 posts

128 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Stickyfinger said:
A disabled person turning onto a 60mph road and you slowing to 40mph because that is their considered safe speed is not inconsiderate.....do you say the same for a HGV or a Coach ?
I'm not being funny, but what the fk has being disabled got to do with whether you're competent to drive at the speed limit where conditions permit? More importantly, what part of being disabled (or any other kind of driver) necessitates 'turning onto a 60mph road' in such a way as to cause established traffic to change speed or direction? My wife and I are both disabled, and we've certainly never felt the need to drive at 40mph in a NSL (or worse still 40mph everywhere) because of it. Neither do we pull out where there is no space to do so - especially if for some reason we have reason to suspect we would be travelling at a lower speed than approaching traffic (regardless of the limit or whether that traffic is sticking to it or exceeding it). What strange logic. In fact if anything, as competent drivers, being behind the wheel eliminates the problems caused by disability. Reduced mobility, pain and other issues are bypassed or forgotten as the driver becomes one with the machinery and enjoys making good progress down the road. I might not be able to walk properly, but I sure as st can drive OK because it's not my own energy I'm using!

IMO there is a middle ground between both your viewpoints, which is usually the case. Certainly in an ideal world one would be driving to the capabilities of the road and weather conditions. In fact I'd strongly argue that if you were, for whatever reason, left in a position of routinely not being able to drive to the limits as per road and weather conditions, then you're not fit to drive at all.

Unfortunately not everyone is of the same calibre or experience, and it would be much worse for all concerned if someone were forced, or otherwise felt obliged, to drive beyond their perceived limits. That said, if someone is for whatever reason routinely unable to drive at the speed limit where it's otherwise safe to do so (and disability certainly isn't one of them unless it was one which left them unfit to drive in the first instance), then they need driver training. Regardless of that fact, there are still two ways of playing it out:

1) Person recognises said limits of their abilities, and hopefully addresses it with further training. In the meantime they try not to become a hazard in themselves, and make efforts to allow other drivers who are willing and able to drive at the normal speed limits to pass (whether by keeping left in a multi-lane carriageway, or else moving left/pulling over on singles). In fact I adopt this thinking even when travelling at the limit. If Johnny Gofast wants to do 80 in a 50 then I'd much rather help him on his way than have him up my arse, before dragging me into whatever nonsense he finds himself in later down the road...

2) Said person either doesn't know or doesn't care about their shortcomings, and/or adopts a 'not me' attitude. They drive everywhere slow (usually because 'it's safer') and don't notice the chaos or accidents that always seem to happen around them, but rarely if ever TO them. As such they affirm their rationale that everyone else is an idiot, unlike them driving 'safely' at low speeds. Anyone slower is a moron, anyone faster is a maniac... etc.

Regrettably there seem to be rather a lot more (2) than (1) these days, though it's always been an issue to some degree (just read some driving books from 50+ years ago!). When I started driving a mere decade or so ago plenty of sub-limit drivers would move left in their lane to allow you to pass, often with a left indicator and a wave out of the window when the road ahead was clear enough to allow an overtake. Lately it seems most just trundle along oblivious, and they become most vexed if you dare to 'jump the queue'. hehe

That said it is true that there are always going to be extenuating circumstances, something which I think you were actually trying to 'drive' at before you erroneously brought disability into the mix. While the habitual Billy Goslow is a problem in himself, there will as you tried to point out always be the usually sensibly-driven car loaded with live animals, or the puking baby with a parent looking for somewhere safe to stop, or whatever. Thus you're right in saying one shouldn't automatically become enraged at such things, lest we get dragged into something and end up making our day much worse. Again though, I would always expect these special cases to not cause obstruction, help out their fellow road users, and generally not behave like imbeciles. It certainly doesn't require them to hold up traffic or cause obstructions.

No 'special case' I can think of necessitates pulling out into live traffic on a main road in such a way as to cause that established traffic to change speed or direction. Nor does it involve slowing down other road users simply because they deigned to drive at a higher speed than you - especially when you were an order of magnitude under the speed permitted by the conditions and the law to begin with.

Sorry to go off on one, but it pulled my pisser to see someone labelling disability as a reason to drive like a total mong. No excuse, and that's coming from said raspberry ripple. As you were...

Edited by rainmakerraw on Thursday 11th February 06:06

fatjoe92

3 posts

100 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Just a few videos as filmed on a Mio MiVue 518 smile

DPD Driver pulling out on me: https://youtu.be/VLB_oJdh-GM
Undertaken/cut up by minibus: https://youtu.be/Wip1V3lxVuI
Poor lane change = near miss: https://youtu.be/xbFA6faahWA
Fail to stop collision (minor): https://youtu.be/6N7MLwUN7NU
Near miss as result of poor lane change: https://youtu.be/iH3faKcFSLM
Crash at a roundabout: https://youtu.be/_LjzkPZUlTE

fatjoe92

3 posts

100 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Funk said:
Psst - most of us have them so we can remove the 'lying ' aspect of an altercation/accident with someone who has no hesitation in denying their culpability.
This is the precise reason I have mine.

Proved to be worth it's weight in Gold recently, as I was in a non fault accident in which the other driver insisted was my fault (until her insurance company saw the footage from my Dashcam).

juice

8,582 posts

284 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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"You don't indicate" - Road Rage.

Love the montage at the end hehe

https://youtu.be/3lstD-GYZpo
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