The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol 3
Discussion
krisdelta said:
I missed the vid, is this the bit where the Wisley exit slip joins the M25 lane northbound?
It is.It was nigh on empty on the 3 lane A3 (honestly I don't ever recall seeing it that empty) and our camera friend was proceeding in L1 at "circa 70" - the sort of circa 70 everyone else reads as 90 odd. Meanwhile two cars are accelerating along the service road leaving RHS Wisley and attempt to merge. With at least ten seconds of doing nothing but recording his own stupidity the cam car (with astonishing timing and making very risky assumptions) gives the encroaching car barely half a lane, one hand on the horn, one hand giving the finger and tries as best he can to exchange wing mirror paint protection film. For another minute we witness barely any more traffic.
Mindless and unnecessary non-event near tragedy.
scenario8 said:
What possible thought process have you employed to type those letters in that order in response to my post?
Do you know that stretch of the A3? Are you aware of the large number of potential hazards in the stretch leading up to and beyond that merge? Are you aware of all the road signs placed along that stretch to warn drivers of potential issues? Bombing it along at circa 70mph (perhaps we'll let that self confessed estimation slide) in L1 for a few miles either side of that incident will almost always involve putting yourself at a heightened probability of encountering slower traffic. So use some observational skills and employ some intelligence.
My driving licence is valid across the world, I don't need to know particular road to know how to use it. That's the beauty of HC code and similar. Give way means give way. I use similar setup pretty often, it looks like this. Do you know that stretch of the A3? Are you aware of the large number of potential hazards in the stretch leading up to and beyond that merge? Are you aware of all the road signs placed along that stretch to warn drivers of potential issues? Bombing it along at circa 70mph (perhaps we'll let that self confessed estimation slide) in L1 for a few miles either side of that incident will almost always involve putting yourself at a heightened probability of encountering slower traffic. So use some observational skills and employ some intelligence.
Do you think that the right way to go about using a slip road like this is to bomb along without due care and attention, or to merge making sure that it's ok to do so.
Like your boy does and these people did.
Let me make it clear, I don't think what the DCW did was right. But to say that one is expected to move over even though one has right of way just because some are too important to wait is ridiculous.
VGTICE said:
But to say that one is expected to move over even though one has right of way just because some are too important to wait is ridiculous.
You've pretty much shown your hand right there. Real world driving isn't (or rather shouldn't be) about oneupmanship or attempting to feel more important than another person, it should be about cooperation, helping to improve the flow of traffic rather than deliberately impeding it.If there's room to move to help facilitate a merge with no loss of speed etc., the only reason you wouldn't do so is if you are a bit of a dick.
head before?LarJammer said:
I removed it incase someone blew an artery, then id be a murderer too.
You removed it for the same reason you've also modified your profile to remove the reference to porsche inspections..... you had a sudden realisation that driving like a twazzockmight be incompatible with that if it was pointed out, I suspect. Otherwise, why edit the profile as well?Mr2Mike said:
VGTICE said:
But to say that one is expected to move over even though one has right of way just because some are too important to wait is ridiculous.
You've pretty much shown your hand right there. Real world driving isn't (or rather shouldn't be) about oneupmanship or attempting to feel more important than another person, it should be about cooperation, helping to improve the flow of traffic rather than deliberately impeding it.If there's room to move to help facilitate a merge with no loss of speed etc., the only reason you wouldn't do so is if you are a bit of a dick.
VGTICE said:
Mr2Mike said:
VGTICE said:
But to say that one is expected to move over even though one has right of way just because some are too important to wait is ridiculous.
You've pretty much shown your hand right there. Real world driving isn't (or rather shouldn't be) about oneupmanship or attempting to feel more important than another person, it should be about cooperation, helping to improve the flow of traffic rather than deliberately impeding it.If there's room to move to help facilitate a merge with no loss of speed etc., the only reason you wouldn't do so is if you are a bit of a dick.
You can only call what you see.
MrJingles705 said:
VGTICE said:
Mr2Mike said:
VGTICE said:
But to say that one is expected to move over even though one has right of way just because some are too important to wait is ridiculous.
You've pretty much shown your hand right there. Real world driving isn't (or rather shouldn't be) about oneupmanship or attempting to feel more important than another person, it should be about cooperation, helping to improve the flow of traffic rather than deliberately impeding it.If there's room to move to help facilitate a merge with no loss of speed etc., the only reason you wouldn't do so is if you are a bit of a dick.
You can only call what you see.
VGTICE said:
Yes, we saw someone join a motorway assuming it's ok to do so.
I once saw a guy in a red jumper headbutt a wall; by extrapolation, obviously all people wearing red jumpers do it.Clearly I'm not being serious, but you get my point. Lets not try and generalise otuside of the video because frankly thats were the comments were going.
MrJingles705 said:
VGTICE said:
Yes, we saw someone join a motorway assuming it's ok to do so.
I once saw a guy in a red jumper headbutt a wall; by extrapolation, obviously all people wearing red jumpers do it.Clearly I'm not being serious, but you get my point. Lets not try and generalise otuside of the video because frankly thats were the comments were going.
VGTICE said:
It's an assumption based on decades of observation of surrounding world and systematic dumbification of driving population. Unless DCW was indicting to move over and actually started moving over it was never ok to join the motorway.
.... Except (putting asside the "motorway" bit..... it could have been.As per other peoples comments; right by paper doesn't mean right by people. Give a little, live a lot etc.
Or, more simply put - why be a d*ck just because the rules say you can?
Example: I am (entirely legally) allowed to park one of my cars 0.5mm from the front bumper of a neighbours car, and another car I own 0.5mm from the rear bumper. No way they are getting out, all entirely legal.
You'd be happy with that supposedly, on the fact that "the law" says it is allowed to be so. I'd argue doing so would make me a total bellend.
You'd be happy with that supposedly, on the fact that "the law" says it is allowed to be so. I'd argue doing so would make me a total bellend.
SmoothCriminal said:
What was the cyclist thinking about? Certainly not self preservation. SmoothCriminal said:
I've not seen that before. Had a look through the comments and found this: "If you take these coordinates (51 23' 07.67"N, 0 30' 27.58E) and put them into Google Earth street view you can see the cyclist was attempting an illegal right turn, as the markings on the road (00:49) show straight on at that junction. The traffic lights controlling that junction from the direction the cyclist came from shows a no right turn except buses....CYCLIST IN THE WRONG.
CF"
Checked the old Google Maps and he's correct. No right turn. Cyclist in the wrong.
MrJingles705 said:
Example: I am (entirely legally) allowed to park one of my cars 0.5mm from the front bumper of a neighbours car, and another car I own 0.5mm from the rear bumper. No way they are getting out, all entirely legal.
You'd be happy with that supposedly, on the fact that "the law" says it is allowed to be so. I'd argue doing so would make me a total bellend.
Yes, because parking 0.5mm away from another car is likely to cause life threatening situation. Unlike pulling out onto a dual carriage A road which isn't a motorway (for those who like to be anal about their roads) without yielding/making sure it's 100% ok to do so. I'm guessing in this video, it's the driver's fault since they could have not accelerated so quickly allowing the cyclist to complete the illegal right turn, it would have caused them no harm (apart from getting rear ended but let's not worry about minor details).You'd be happy with that supposedly, on the fact that "the law" says it is allowed to be so. I'd argue doing so would make me a total bellend.
https://youtu.be/XZ2GTbPDdrs
Where do people find their driving licences these days cereals, The Sun?
Wiccan of Darkness said:
LarJammer said:
Here are the facts - op travelling at c.70mph in lane 1 of a major A road..
Except you were doing 90 mph. In a 3 second period the car passed 16 white dashes, centre lane markings which are spaced at 5 per 40m which puts your speed at 40 ms-1. that's 2.4km in a minute, which equates to 90mph.It's one thing to be unable to see your own poor driving, it happens. There are thousands of piss poor drivers out there, yourself included. But to then outright lie about your speed on a forum full of experienced drivers who can accurately determine a vehicles speed based upon the knowledge of the lengths of the white lines on the road just highlights your naivety.
Why are you still here?
VGTICE said:
Yes, because parking 0.5mm away from another car is likely to cause life threatening situation. Unlike pulling out onto a dual carriage A road which isn't a motorway (for those who like to be anal about their roads) without yielding/making sure it's 100% ok to do so. I'm guessing in this video, it's the driver's fault since they could have not accelerated so quickly allowing the cyclist to complete the illegal right turn, it would have caused them no harm (apart from getting rear ended but let's not worry about minor details).
https://youtu.be/XZ2GTbPDdrs
Where do people find their driving licences these days cereals, The Sun?
I didn't say it did.https://youtu.be/XZ2GTbPDdrs
Where do people find their driving licences these days cereals, The Sun?
But look - in this video, a plane did something bad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcqrEKSW4ng
So now I'm going to say all bikes can fly. Or something.
Are you getting bored of unrelated extrapolation yet?
VGTICE said:
Yes, because parking 0.5mm away from another car is likely to cause life threatening situation. Unlike pulling out onto a dual carriage A road which isn't a motorway (for those who like to be anal about their roads) without yielding/making sure it's 100% ok to do so. I'm guessing in this video, it's the driver's fault since they could have not accelerated so quickly allowing the cyclist to complete the illegal right turn, it would have caused them no harm (apart from getting rear ended but let's not worry about minor details).
https://youtu.be/XZ2GTbPDdrs
Where do people find their driving licences these days cereals, The Sun?
it isn't "anal" to repeatedly try to alert unknowing observers that they are mistaken in thinking that stretch of tarmac is a motorway since the specific nature of the road is hugely significant in determining whether bombing it along at circa 70mph (cough cough) is an approach likely to put oneself in the path of slower moving vehicles. The "junctions" aren't to motorway standards, the road users aren't always going to be to motorway standards. That service road with very short merge point is the exit from a tourist attraction likely to be frequented by the elderly, young mums and families few of whom will either have the means or attitude to boot it up to the DCW's speed. The service road itself is the last opportunity for HGVs to stop before they meet the M25 so is frequently packed with goods vehicles manoeuvring at slow speeds further prohibiting safe acceleration up to motorway speeds. Goodness, at weekends cars are parked on the carriageway and pedestrians use the road to attend local events. It's not necessarily the best place to consider sticking steadfastedly in L1 at an inappropriate speed "because you can".https://youtu.be/XZ2GTbPDdrs
Where do people find their driving licences these days cereals, The Sun?
Context matters.
FWIW I bomb it along there at speeds I'm happy to admit, Officer, comparable to that poster's claimed 70mph but I don't do it in L1 - at least I recognise I'm rarely going to be in L1 when driving at those speeds along that stretch.
The poster's attitude and actions at the obviously obvious pinch point, however, were far below an acceptable standard and ran a high risk of ending in tears.
ashleyman said:
SmoothCriminal said:
I've not seen that before. Had a look through the comments and found this: "If you take these coordinates (51 23' 07.67"N, 0 30' 27.58E) and put them into Google Earth street view you can see the cyclist was attempting an illegal right turn, as the markings on the road (00:49) show straight on at that junction. The traffic lights controlling that junction from the direction the cyclist came from shows a no right turn except buses....CYCLIST IN THE WRONG.
CF?"
Checked the old Google Maps and he's correct. No right turn. Cyclist in the wrong.
Edited by Lance Catamaran on Monday 3rd July 21:57
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