Anybody won one of those car lotteries?
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piyopi said:
Robbie, regarding ticket numbers - If you have 100,000 tickets in a competition, and one person can buy 1,000.. they have the same chance as somebody on Rev Comps who has 100 tickets out of 10,000. You can't say 'Well the numbers are smaller so your chances are better' 10% or 5% is 10% or 5%, simple as.
He must know this. It's just that the low odds comps appeal more to people who don't understand odds - it's a big chunk of their market. By reiterating this on here it just makes it seem like he thinks his customers are mugs despite the matey attitude.hairykrishna said:
piyopi said:
Robbie, regarding ticket numbers - If you have 100,000 tickets in a competition, and one person can buy 1,000.. they have the same chance as somebody on Rev Comps who has 100 tickets out of 10,000. You can't say 'Well the numbers are smaller so your chances are better' 10% or 5% is 10% or 5%, simple as.
He must know this. It's just that the low odds comps appeal more to people who don't understand odds - it's a big chunk of their market. By reiterating this on here it just makes it seem like he thinks his customers are mugs despite the matey attitude.Your 'odds' do not improve, they remain 1:3999 for a single ticket. You instead have a chance, often a very slim chance, that an unsold ticket will come out and there will be a redraw, but when that redraw takes place its a totally new event with all balls back in play and you again have the same 1:3999 odds. Its completely false to say the 'odds' improve, they don't and Robbie himself used to criticise companies like Aspire who claimed this yet now does it every week. The only way 'odds' would improve for a given draw is if those unsold ticket numbers were somehow removed, which is of course impossible.
More tidying up of the house is in order before stones are thrown at others.
Sandman72 said:
Your 'odds' do not improve, they remain 1:3999 for a single ticket. You instead have a chance, often a very slim chance, that an unsold ticket will come out and there will be a redraw, but when that redraw takes place its a totally new event with all balls back in play and you again have the same 1:3999 odds. Its completely false to say the 'odds' improve, they don't and Robbie himself used to criticise companies like Aspire who claimed this yet now does it every week. The only way 'odds' would improve for a given draw is if those unsold ticket numbers were somehow removed, which is of course impossible.
They effectively are removed though surely, as in your example there are only 3000 active numbers, so 1 in 4 numbers drawn would be discarded and redrawn in that case.piyopi said:
Moving to a 3/4-day draw - this was to reduce the postal entries, it wasn't to 'make things speedier'. You can treat customers like morons but we are not
Reducing ticket numbers to stop repeat winners - this is also to limit postal entries. Blame whatever you want but we know the truth.
Reducing ticket numbers to stop repeat winners - this is also to limit postal entries. Blame whatever you want but we know the truth.
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Lot of bashing Robbie & Rev comps here. Bit unfair guys especially when there’s sites like Rkings, Pristine, Storm etc who NEVER process any postal entries. The Charlene thing was very cringy, I’m glad that’s been toned down. FG winning multiple times is really annoying but she’s maxing out on pretty much every comp she enter’s, where I might add an extra ticket to my postal entry or if I’ve won some credit I’ll get 4/5 tickets, so she’s still got a better chance of winning. I think I mentioned it last year, I had 18 or 19 tickets on a BMW 440i total £430ish (all paid for with credit) total cost to me was under a fiver, the guy won with 2 tickets so it’s pure luck.
Lots of free comps given, a decent chance to win a TON of site credit. I can’t think of another site that gives the chance to win so much for free?
griffin dai said:
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griffin dai said:
Lots of free comps given, a decent chance to win a TON of site credit. I can’t think of another site that gives the chance to win so much for free?
Most of their ‘free’ stuff is just built into the price of the comps. Lots of the bigger sites give away genuine free to enter comps every day of the week. Not Rev comps bashing at all - just don’t like the pretending to be beyond reproach attitude
piyopi said:
You must be the chosen one. Their trustpilot is full of people who can’t get post cards in.
I'm with the previous poster in that pretty much all my postcard entries to date have so far been processed. Probably close to 1k postal entries all told. The only time these are not, for me, is around Xmas time, so I no longer send them around this period.So they are definitely not binning them.
So it's either you not filling out the postcards correctly with all the required information, per the clearly written T&C's, e.g., name, address, email, tel, blah, blah. Or your local postal system. The address was also changed some time back, have you noticed?
Revs is the only site I use, purely because they are good at processing postals. So I buy other tickers randomly on items I may like. None of the other sites process postals (at least not for me) so I don't use them. Fairs fair.
Sandman72 said:
Another thing that is misleading, sorry, is when they send out the emails saying they won't sell out so 'better odds'. Its not 'better odds' at all. Firstly they usually sell out or nearly because of the texts and emails but putting that aside, even if they don't and say they only sell 3000 tickets on a 3999 ticket draw there are still 3999 numbers in the ball machine so your 'odds' are still 1:3999 because any of those 3999 numbers can come out, sold or not.
Your 'odds' do not improve, they remain 1:3999 for a single ticket.
This is the most absurd thing I've ever read on this forum Your 'odds' do not improve, they remain 1:3999 for a single ticket.
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FishAndChips said:
This is the most absurd thing I've ever read on this forum ![hehe](/inc/images/hehe.gif)
Same. Whilst there will be brighter sparks on here than me, surely it's as simple as if 3000 people have bought a ticket, you are up against 2999 others. If 4000 have bought tickets then you are up against 3999 others. Yes, the numbers in the draw maybe 1-3999 (could they use software to exclude none sold numbers from the draw?) but any numbers drawn which haven't sold will just be swerved. It's still down to 1/3000 you taking the prize.![hehe](/inc/images/hehe.gif)
SM72. You seem to have a bit of a bee in your bonnet about RC's. Did Robbie once shag your Mum or something?
Sandman72 said:
Stevil said:
Sandman72 said:
Your 'odds' do not improve, they remain 1:3999 for a single ticket. You instead have a chance, often a very slim chance, that an unsold ticket will come out and there will be a redraw, but when that redraw takes place its a totally new event with all balls back in play and you again have the same 1:3999 odds. Its completely false to say the 'odds' improve, they don't and Robbie himself used to criticise companies like Aspire who claimed this yet now does it every week. The only way 'odds' would improve for a given draw is if those unsold ticket numbers were somehow removed, which is of course impossible.
They effectively are removed though surely, as in your example there are only 3000 active numbers, so 1 in 4 numbers drawn would be discarded and redrawn in that case.If there were 3,999 tickets available, and you were the only person buying a ticket, you're odds are not 1:3,999, your odds are now improved to 1:1. Doesn't matter how many times they redraw because an unsold number comes up, eventually your winning number will be drawn.
Just to add the odds of your ticket being drawn at that point in time are still 1:3,999 but your odds on winning have now changed.
Edited by FishAndChips on Saturday 16th March 16:39
FishAndChips said:
Sandman72 said:
Stevil said:
Sandman72 said:
Your 'odds' do not improve, they remain 1:3999 for a single ticket. You instead have a chance, often a very slim chance, that an unsold ticket will come out and there will be a redraw, but when that redraw takes place its a totally new event with all balls back in play and you again have the same 1:3999 odds. Its completely false to say the 'odds' improve, they don't and Robbie himself used to criticise companies like Aspire who claimed this yet now does it every week. The only way 'odds' would improve for a given draw is if those unsold ticket numbers were somehow removed, which is of course impossible.
They effectively are removed though surely, as in your example there are only 3000 active numbers, so 1 in 4 numbers drawn would be discarded and redrawn in that case.If there were 3,999 tickets available, and you were the only person buying a ticket, you're odds are not 1:3,999, your odds are now improved to 1:1. Doesn't matter how many times they redraw because an unsold number comes up, eventually your winning number will be drawn.
Speaking of odds, Mr D from Cornwall seems to be beating the odds on Rev Comps and has won 3 Amazon vouchers in a row. "Mr D" I thought Rev Comps had sorted the fake name rubbish, but thats some luck.
I was really worried I had been ripped off by a scam company but the response from the owner put my mind somewhat at rest. I can't get all that back but I don't feel as bad realising I have just been unlucky and not just stupid falling for a scammer. Looking at these automatic instant draws though there does seem to be the same names all the time and if one person can only buy a small number of tickets how is that even possible. Something just isn't right here. Imagine the National Lottery told you they had done the draw on a computer and you couldn't see the draws or understand how they work you just had to trust them, would you play?
Edited by WhiteBull on Saturday 16th March 16:49
Sandman72 said:
Stevil said:
Sandman72 said:
Your 'odds' do not improve, they remain 1:3999 for a single ticket. You instead have a chance, often a very slim chance, that an unsold ticket will come out and there will be a redraw, but when that redraw takes place its a totally new event with all balls back in play and you again have the same 1:3999 odds. Its completely false to say the 'odds' improve, they don't and Robbie himself used to criticise companies like Aspire who claimed this yet now does it every week. The only way 'odds' would improve for a given draw is if those unsold ticket numbers were somehow removed, which is of course impossible.
They effectively are removed though surely, as in your example there are only 3000 active numbers, so 1 in 4 numbers drawn would be discarded and redrawn in that case.Stevil said:
Sandman72 said:
Stevil said:
Sandman72 said:
Your 'odds' do not improve, they remain 1:3999 for a single ticket. You instead have a chance, often a very slim chance, that an unsold ticket will come out and there will be a redraw, but when that redraw takes place its a totally new event with all balls back in play and you again have the same 1:3999 odds. Its completely false to say the 'odds' improve, they don't and Robbie himself used to criticise companies like Aspire who claimed this yet now does it every week. The only way 'odds' would improve for a given draw is if those unsold ticket numbers were somehow removed, which is of course impossible.
They effectively are removed though surely, as in your example there are only 3000 active numbers, so 1 in 4 numbers drawn would be discarded and redrawn in that case.I'll happily leave it there, you believe you are correct, anyone who understands how odds work will realise you are not. Thing is though Rev Comps used to criticise other companies for claiming the odds are improved and now do exactly the same in their texts.
Edited by Sandman72 on Saturday 16th March 17:04
number2 said:
Imagine there are 4,000 tickets but only one is sold, to you.
What is the likelihood that you'll win?
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This thread has become a rev comps complaint centre. Their website is out there somewhere, as is their social media presence >>>>
Would be an interesting live draw as, I believe, unsold ticket numbers can't be excluded can they? So the none winning number will be back in the next draw so the odds would still be 1:4000 would it not? Even if there's 1 entrant in the comp. What is the likelihood that you'll win?
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This thread has become a rev comps complaint centre. Their website is out there somewhere, as is their social media presence >>>>
Anyway, hopefully normal service resumes and the thread doesn't need to change title to Rev Comp Q&A
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