One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3
Discussion
problemchild1976 said:
wonder where the guy has gone..... prob fed up of the abuse
JJ
Nope, he's still here, being all abusive. I hope you're going to pick him up on it JJ
yellowjack said:
. HGV drivers are unspeakably foul creatures as a rule.
Just fking-well queue if you want to, but don't interfere with the plans of people who actually understand the way merging works. Straddling two lanes makes you instantly into a knob, unless you're doing it to protect an injured person lying in the road or something equally serious. Simply doing it to prevent someone from doing what you perceive to be "pushing in" is pathetic. It's none of your business, and creates conflict when the job of a skilled driver is to prevent and mitigate against conflict with other traffic.
Just fking-well queue if you want to, but don't interfere with the plans of people who actually understand the way merging works. Straddling two lanes makes you instantly into a knob, unless you're doing it to protect an injured person lying in the road or something equally serious. Simply doing it to prevent someone from doing what you perceive to be "pushing in" is pathetic. It's none of your business, and creates conflict when the job of a skilled driver is to prevent and mitigate against conflict with other traffic.
nonsequitur said:
Glad you are following the HC which states:
288 Road Works. Do not switch lanes to overtake queueing traffic.
134 Lane discipline. Follow the signs and road markings and get into lane as directed.
Merging in turn is recommended but only if safe when vehicles are travelling at very low speed.
I have cherry picked these points as they are relevant to the discussion.
1. I you're already in the right hand lane, you don't need to switch lanes - thereby obeying rule 288.288 Road Works. Do not switch lanes to overtake queueing traffic.
134 Lane discipline. Follow the signs and road markings and get into lane as directed.
Merging in turn is recommended but only if safe when vehicles are travelling at very low speed.
I have cherry picked these points as they are relevant to the discussion.
2. Vehicles are generally travelling at very low speed at the point where the lanes merge - thereby obeying rule 134.
Thank you for reinforcing my point.
bmw535i said:
problemchild1976 said:
wonder where the guy has gone..... prob fed up of the abuse
JJ
Nope, he's still here, being all abusive. I hope you're going to pick him up on it JJ
yellowjack said:
I wouldn't try to be a 'road captain' and police a merge point any more than I'd take a dump in a lay-by or throw bottles of my own piss out of a moving vehicle. HGV drivers are unspeakably foul creatures as a rule.
Just fking-well queue if you want to, but don't interfere with the plans of people who actually understand the way merging works. Straddling two lanes makes you instantly into a knob, unless you're doing it to protect an injured person lying in the road or something equally serious. Simply doing it to prevent someone from doing what you perceive to be "pushing in" is pathetic. It's none of your business, and creates conflict when the job of a skilled driver is to prevent and mitigate against conflict with other traffic.
Just fking-well queue if you want to, but don't interfere with the plans of people who actually understand the way merging works. Straddling two lanes makes you instantly into a knob, unless you're doing it to protect an injured person lying in the road or something equally serious. Simply doing it to prevent someone from doing what you perceive to be "pushing in" is pathetic. It's none of your business, and creates conflict when the job of a skilled driver is to prevent and mitigate against conflict with other traffic.
Now do us ALL a favour. Run along and stop spoiling the thread FOR EVERYONE. You said your piece in response to a post I made. I retired quietly to allow it all to bubble down a bit, and now I come back with an unrelated opinion on an unrelated subject you're out with your pitchfork and torch again. You need to let this go. I'm saying no more until I have something new to contribute to the thread. You can go around in circles all you want, but what'll happen is the same as happens when a dog chases it's own tail. Everyone will laugh, and then something more interesting will happen elsewhere and people will cease to take notice of the poor demented dog. Quit now, while you still have some face to save...
...the real irony here, and I feel dirty for even saying it, is that on the subject of merge in turn I seem to agree with BMW120D and 2000AD, or whatever their names are.
Edited by yellowjack on Monday 20th March 14:42
problemchild1976 said:
nonsequitur said:
Flibble said:
Road captains out tonight, policing the merge points from 200 yards back. One got so far over to the right to block people merging that I went round him on the left. He was not pleased.
Another great MIT story. Always exiting.merging happens when the traffic is moving
if its stationary then how can you actually merge without forcing your way in??
JJ
Also, the whole point of the merge being where it is on that particular road is to avoid traffic queuing through a tunnel, which is generally a bad thing from an air quality point of view (said tunnel has signs about turning off your engine in queueing traffic due to this). The clowns who try to enforce a merge further back are actively trying to create air quality problems where there is no need.
bmw535i said:
nonsequitur said:
Glad you are following the HC which states:
288 Road Works. Do not switch lanes to overtake queueing traffic.
134 Lane discipline. Follow the signs and road markings and get into lane as directed.
Merging in turn is recommended but only if safe when vehicles are travelling at very low speed.
I have cherry picked these points as they are relevant to the discussion.
1. I you're already in the right hand lane, you don't need to switch lanes - thereby obeying rule 288.288 Road Works. Do not switch lanes to overtake queueing traffic.
134 Lane discipline. Follow the signs and road markings and get into lane as directed.
Merging in turn is recommended but only if safe when vehicles are travelling at very low speed.
I have cherry picked these points as they are relevant to the discussion.
2. Vehicles are generally travelling at very low speed at the point where the lanes merge - thereby obeying rule 134.
Thank you for reinforcing my point.
Its only two lanes, if there is a dotted line between them.
If you actually 'look' at any permanent road merger, the dotted line between lanes ends BEFORE the merger. That is because the concept of there even being two lanes has officially ended and one 'New' single lane starts.
The left lane 'officially' ended when the right lane did, in an exact reversal of the scenario we all see when the road splits to enter a two lane roundabout. Same concept.
(Although people seem to get that spectacularly wrong as well).
The only reason for the left hand lane usually being the lane that is straight-lining after the point of merge is because we drive on the left hand side of the road (and the kerbside is always on the left).
The scruffy, dribbling oik in a battered SEAT this morning. Typical moron, hoodie on, hood up, window down, peering through a misted up and lightly frosted windscreen, too busy dicking about lighting a cigarette to concentrate on driving.
He arrived at a mini-roundabout from my right. Road position (tucked up near the centre-line) suggested to me, and the van driver ahead of me, that this clown was going right, so the van driver slowed to give way to him. Then, when he was satisfied that his fag was lit, and he'd sucked enough of it into his stupid fat face, he turned... LEFT! of course. Why me and the van driver hadn't read his mind and realised this, I've no idea. Possibly the lack of a left indicator and a right-turn road position? So we'd come to a complete stop and waited for this inconsiderate fkwit for no good reason.
SEAT driver? I hope your fking wheels fall off.
And while I'm at it, road "planners" who decide that using mini-roundabouts as traffic calming is a good idea. It's not. Too many retards cannot use them properly, and they are frequently placed so as to corrupt the traditional rules of priority at junctions, artificially giving priority to tiny housing estate roads and even cul-de-sacs over more 'major' roads.
He arrived at a mini-roundabout from my right. Road position (tucked up near the centre-line) suggested to me, and the van driver ahead of me, that this clown was going right, so the van driver slowed to give way to him. Then, when he was satisfied that his fag was lit, and he'd sucked enough of it into his stupid fat face, he turned... LEFT! of course. Why me and the van driver hadn't read his mind and realised this, I've no idea. Possibly the lack of a left indicator and a right-turn road position? So we'd come to a complete stop and waited for this inconsiderate fkwit for no good reason.
SEAT driver? I hope your fking wheels fall off.
And while I'm at it, road "planners" who decide that using mini-roundabouts as traffic calming is a good idea. It's not. Too many retards cannot use them properly, and they are frequently placed so as to corrupt the traditional rules of priority at junctions, artificially giving priority to tiny housing estate roads and even cul-de-sacs over more 'major' roads.
yellowjack said:
And while I'm at it, road "planners" who decide that using mini-roundabouts as traffic calming is a good idea. It's not. Too many retards cannot use them properly, and they are frequently placed so as to corrupt the traditional rules of priority at junctions, artificially giving priority to tiny housing estate roads and even cul-de-sacs over more 'major' roads.
They have done this on a road I use every day to get to work.I assume, as its an expensive area, its to allow all the Orange women in 4x4`s the priority they `expect & demand` over us Proles!!!
Boils my fluids I can tell you!
The driving instructor that was driving on the wrong side of the road on the Portsmouth Road, alongside Frimley Park Hospital, this morning and as a result nearly drove into me.
Thankfully me blasting the horn as he approached resulted in him looking up from his lap and yanking his Corsa back to the correct side of the road. As he came past me I looked over and noticed the reason for distraction was a fking tablet sat in his lap
Nice to know he's responsible for educating the next generation on how to drive correctly. He's probably the sort that also tells people to drive straight into the middle lane of a motorway or straight to the outside lane of a dual carriageway.
Thankfully me blasting the horn as he approached resulted in him looking up from his lap and yanking his Corsa back to the correct side of the road. As he came past me I looked over and noticed the reason for distraction was a fking tablet sat in his lap
Nice to know he's responsible for educating the next generation on how to drive correctly. He's probably the sort that also tells people to drive straight into the middle lane of a motorway or straight to the outside lane of a dual carriageway.
Edited by AlexRS2782 on Tuesday 21st March 21:08
bmw535i said:
problemchild1976 said:
wonder where the guy has gone..... prob fed up of the abuse
JJ
Nope, he's still here, being all abusive. I hope you're going to pick him up on it JJ
yellowjack said:
. HGV drivers are unspeakably foul creatures as a rule.
Just fking-well queue if you want to, but don't interfere with the plans of people who actually understand the way merging works. Straddling two lanes makes you instantly into a knob, unless you're doing it to protect an injured person lying in the road or something equally serious. Simply doing it to prevent someone from doing what you perceive to be "pushing in" is pathetic. It's none of your business, and creates conflict when the job of a skilled driver is to prevent and mitigate against conflict with other traffic.
Just fking-well queue if you want to, but don't interfere with the plans of people who actually understand the way merging works. Straddling two lanes makes you instantly into a knob, unless you're doing it to protect an injured person lying in the road or something equally serious. Simply doing it to prevent someone from doing what you perceive to be "pushing in" is pathetic. It's none of your business, and creates conflict when the job of a skilled driver is to prevent and mitigate against conflict with other traffic.
he's talking in general no? not isolating a member and constantly having a go after every post or picking on them for their social standing, job, lifestyle - thats the stuff of stalkers and bullys!
seems you have a fan base already though so i'll leave you be
back to the topic title - people who are totally unable to use mini roundabouts and sit stopped watching the car stopped at their 3 o-clock while the cars at their 9 o'clock pass between them and the 3 o'clock car but they still just sit there!! for how long i do not know
JJ (its my name and i'm being polite by signing off my post - as per many many forums)
Anyone who has ever been responsible for, contributed towards or been in a position to improve (but hasn't) the entire Oxford city road network.
My wife was working in Oxford yesterday, I needed to go to London, thought "why don't I just drive to Oxford and get the train from there?" Big mistake. Set out at about 6:30, 10 miles outside of Oxford by 7:15. Didn't arrive at Oxford station car park until 8:25. An hour and ten minutes to navigate the roads from the B4449 junction to the car park. Twenty minutes sat at the roundabout before that idiotic 5p toll bridge. Another twenty sat at the A420/West Way traffic lights. I'd imagined hitting Oxford before 8 would have meant the worst of the traffic wouldn't have started yet, but it was just abysmal. The last stretch down West Way, I averaged less than 10mph.
How do people who live and work in and around Oxford cope? It's not like it's even got a functioning public transport network.
My wife was working in Oxford yesterday, I needed to go to London, thought "why don't I just drive to Oxford and get the train from there?" Big mistake. Set out at about 6:30, 10 miles outside of Oxford by 7:15. Didn't arrive at Oxford station car park until 8:25. An hour and ten minutes to navigate the roads from the B4449 junction to the car park. Twenty minutes sat at the roundabout before that idiotic 5p toll bridge. Another twenty sat at the A420/West Way traffic lights. I'd imagined hitting Oxford before 8 would have meant the worst of the traffic wouldn't have started yet, but it was just abysmal. The last stretch down West Way, I averaged less than 10mph.
How do people who live and work in and around Oxford cope? It's not like it's even got a functioning public transport network.
ManOpener said:
How do people who live and work in and around Oxford cope? It's not like it's even got a functioning public transport network.
Having lived in Oxford for three years, I found the city-centre bus network was more than adequate and park-and-ride was useful enough for visitors. Had a car but only used it for the supermarket shop and out of town things. Everything in the city was more than accessible.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff