RE: Shed of the Week: Mercedes 190E
Discussion
dbdb said:
whatleytom said:
That looks good - and a very pretty house too.J4CKO said:
Yep, looks good, is it this same as this one ?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=97...
I missed a lovely 300E 124, old boy down the road had it when we moved here in 98, he died last year and I never registered my interest.
Would make a great sleeper for me, fit a more powerful engine and a few supporting mods, keep it sludge green or doom blue, not talking 500 BHP but say 250 to 300, sort of Do a Singer treatment on a 190.
No not that one. A best smoker barges purchase from last month. I've owned a lot of w124s - I now think the 190 is better in many ways. They certainly rust less. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=97...
I missed a lovely 300E 124, old boy down the road had it when we moved here in 98, he died last year and I never registered my interest.
Would make a great sleeper for me, fit a more powerful engine and a few supporting mods, keep it sludge green or doom blue, not talking 500 BHP but say 250 to 300, sort of Do a Singer treatment on a 190.
Nice shed. Anyone saying this shed is slow has clearly never driven a 2.0 190D. Same car, but very agricultural diesel engine.
Has the pleasure of driving for a few months last year before the MOT expired. Was well beyond 200k miles on the clock.
As others said these are very simple and solid cars. In the end a gentleman running an export business bought it off me to export to the african continent to be used as a taxi (for a still reasonable sum despite issues.) Can't see that happening with any of the 190s contemporaries...
Has the pleasure of driving for a few months last year before the MOT expired. Was well beyond 200k miles on the clock.
As others said these are very simple and solid cars. In the end a gentleman running an export business bought it off me to export to the african continent to be used as a taxi (for a still reasonable sum despite issues.) Can't see that happening with any of the 190s contemporaries...
Edited by Sharps on Saturday 12th August 10:32
Numeric said:
Mercs of this era used to have a distinctive smell. Hard to describe but you somehow knew you were in a Merc even with your eyes shut.
And the view on a long drive especially at night of the star at the end of the bonnet, just in your line of sight to guide you home somehow...
Utterly simple quality that died with the C-class and its cruddy comrades!
The smell is the rubberised horsehair used to make the seat bases/backrests ☺And the view on a long drive especially at night of the star at the end of the bonnet, just in your line of sight to guide you home somehow...
Utterly simple quality that died with the C-class and its cruddy comrades!
J4CKO said:
Yep, looks good, is it this same as this one ?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=97...
I missed a lovely 300E 124, old boy down the road had it when we moved here in 98, he died last year and I never registered my interest.
Would make a great sleeper for me, fit a more powerful engine and a few supporting mods, keep it sludge green or doom blue, not talking 500 BHP but say 250 to 300, sort of Do a Singer treatment on a 190.
I guess a multivalve OM605 turbodiesel transplant with some tuning by dieselpump.co uk could fit the bill. The 190 as standard lacks power and the 2.6 auto seems to be a gas guzzler for the available performance. I think an M103 3.0 plus manual 'box could work well...https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=97...
I missed a lovely 300E 124, old boy down the road had it when we moved here in 98, he died last year and I never registered my interest.
Would make a great sleeper for me, fit a more powerful engine and a few supporting mods, keep it sludge green or doom blue, not talking 500 BHP but say 250 to 300, sort of Do a Singer treatment on a 190.
BGarside said:
I guess a multivalve OM605 turbodiesel transplant with some tuning by dieselpump.co uk could fit the bill. The 190 as standard lacks power and the 2.6 auto seems to be a gas guzzler for the available performance. I think an M103 3.0 plus manual 'box could work well...
I'd keep the 300 engine in the w124 and convert to manual - I find the w124 is a significantly better handling car. Nice shed. These cars got a lot of folk into Mercedes first-time ownership, back in the day. Including me. Did something I've never done before or since and ran a small ad in the Sunday Times saying "1987-89 Mercedes 190E 2.0 Litre auto required. Must have FMBSH. Private buyer with cash."
That got me several calls from the trade (including official M-B dealers trying to unload one in bottle green & with a manual box).
I ended up buying a nice 3 year old example with every possible extra on it from a just-retired insurance salesman in Brighton. It had been his company car & then he'd bought it off them as he retired. 30K miles on it, from memory. By the time we moved it on it had 100K+ on and was nicely run in. At this age however there are surely some rust issues. Nice ones are suddenly a lot of money, I see, so the poorer ones must now be dying & survivor syndrome is moving the prices on the good examples.
That got me several calls from the trade (including official M-B dealers trying to unload one in bottle green & with a manual box).
I ended up buying a nice 3 year old example with every possible extra on it from a just-retired insurance salesman in Brighton. It had been his company car & then he'd bought it off them as he retired. 30K miles on it, from memory. By the time we moved it on it had 100K+ on and was nicely run in. At this age however there are surely some rust issues. Nice ones are suddenly a lot of money, I see, so the poorer ones must now be dying & survivor syndrome is moving the prices on the good examples.
I bought one on a drunk ebay purchase. The worst car I've owned, Saying that it a 1984 car, owned by a travelling family and smelt like a toilet.
Driving that car from Truro up to Scotland was a truly horrible experience.
I tried to kill it but it wouldn't die. Sturdy little banger.
Wouldn't say no to a 16v car but the rest I think are a bit embarrasing, underpowered, cramped and ugly. Like a Jaguar X-type. Just buy an old S-class or XJ.
Driving that car from Truro up to Scotland was a truly horrible experience.
I tried to kill it but it wouldn't die. Sturdy little banger.
Wouldn't say no to a 16v car but the rest I think are a bit embarrasing, underpowered, cramped and ugly. Like a Jaguar X-type. Just buy an old S-class or XJ.
deltashad said:
I bought one on a drunk ebay purchase. The worst car I've owned, Saying that it a 1984 car, owned by a travelling family and smelt like a toilet.
Driving that car from Truro up to Scotland was a truly horrible experience.
I tried to kill it but it wouldn't die. Sturdy little banger.
Wouldn't say no to a 16v car but the rest I think are a bit embarrasing, underpowered, cramped and ugly. Like a Jaguar X-type. Just buy an old S-class or XJ.
Like an X-Type? You are surely joking. The W201 is widely regarded as one of the best cars Mercedes has ever made. Driving that car from Truro up to Scotland was a truly horrible experience.
I tried to kill it but it wouldn't die. Sturdy little banger.
Wouldn't say no to a 16v car but the rest I think are a bit embarrasing, underpowered, cramped and ugly. Like a Jaguar X-type. Just buy an old S-class or XJ.
I've a 190d 2.5 auto, as new condition with 75k.
Only does around 2k per year as it's spread over a few classics summer months only, been totally reliable bar routine maintenance, last year I did all 4 springs/shocks/bushings just to bring the ride back to new.
Power wise its 92 bhp 5 cylinder diesel, drives beautifully, not a power house but more than ample, and the faster it goes the smoother it gets. I had it out of the uk last year and a steady 90-95 cruise is as quiet as 60-65.
And it's just such a lovely place to sit.........
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Only does around 2k per year as it's spread over a few classics summer months only, been totally reliable bar routine maintenance, last year I did all 4 springs/shocks/bushings just to bring the ride back to new.
Power wise its 92 bhp 5 cylinder diesel, drives beautifully, not a power house but more than ample, and the faster it goes the smoother it gets. I had it out of the uk last year and a steady 90-95 cruise is as quiet as 60-65.
And it's just such a lovely place to sit.........
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My Father In Law's 190E - that he had from very nearly new (86' on the D) has seen him out - it's now living out its dotage in the South France at my sister in law's house. My nephew is now driving, so it tickles me to think that it will have been driven by three generations of our family.
Last time I got behind the wheel it was still in fine fettle, slow yes, but smooth and genuinely without a rattle. Part of the family and not going anywhere soon!
Last time I got behind the wheel it was still in fine fettle, slow yes, but smooth and genuinely without a rattle. Part of the family and not going anywhere soon!
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