Strange driving annoyances
Discussion
silverfoxcc said:
NewBoy
I seem to have missed the bit where it says KEEP INDOICATING right What you are doing on the approach is informing the chap behind of you intentions nothing more noting less, as i aid less signalling is more
Keep on pulling out in front of people already on, you could well meet a DCW who for once will not be the main idiot in the clip
Could you also be one of the move indicate mirror mob
Perhaps a simple rule you may take on board, but it is dodgy ground ever to question ones politics. sexual prowess or driving abiltiy but do you (or anyo ne lese on here0 ever do this mantr
If i make this move will i affect anyon es course ,direction ,or speed.. if the answer to any of these is YES then don't do it
Defensive driving is not an old farts province pit is there the keep you alive!
There's a roundabout near where I live where for much of the day the only way you can pull out is if someone is exiting the roundabout onto the road you're joining from. I miss countless opportunities to pull out because of people not indicating correctly, sometimes when two or three cars in a row exit. That backs up the traffic behind and there will always be those who think I'm the one being an idiot for not pulling out when it seems clear to do so. I seem to have missed the bit where it says KEEP INDOICATING right What you are doing on the approach is informing the chap behind of you intentions nothing more noting less, as i aid less signalling is more
Keep on pulling out in front of people already on, you could well meet a DCW who for once will not be the main idiot in the clip
Could you also be one of the move indicate mirror mob
Perhaps a simple rule you may take on board, but it is dodgy ground ever to question ones politics. sexual prowess or driving abiltiy but do you (or anyo ne lese on here0 ever do this mantr
If i make this move will i affect anyon es course ,direction ,or speed.. if the answer to any of these is YES then don't do it
Defensive driving is not an old farts province pit is there the keep you alive!
People barrelling into roundabouts at full speed when there's limited visibility are annoying too.
If people approached roundabouts at a sensible speed and indicated correctly, there wouldn't be any gambling or danger.
Metal Guru said:
Glosphil said:
I have a friend who never uses A/C to clear misted up windows. I have pointed out that A/C does not mean Air/Cold but Air/Conditioning.
On a recent journey with 5 of us in the car his method of minimal demisting was wiping a small wet rag over a small area of the windscreen directly in front of him.
He knows I was an IAM Observer & at journeys end said to me, "So would that drive have passed the IAM test?
Me - No
Him - Why not?
Me - The examiner would expect you to know that cars are partially glass so you can see out & keep the windows clear so you can do so.
Him - How can I do that?
Me - For f*** sake
There are many, many people who are unaware of what the a/c does. I blame green programmes that tell you you’ll get an extra 1/2 mpg by turning the a/c off. Maybe , and a lot just use it in the summers days then only when it gets to 30C.On a recent journey with 5 of us in the car his method of minimal demisting was wiping a small wet rag over a small area of the windscreen directly in front of him.
He knows I was an IAM Observer & at journeys end said to me, "So would that drive have passed the IAM test?
Me - No
Him - Why not?
Me - The examiner would expect you to know that cars are partially glass so you can see out & keep the windows clear so you can do so.
Him - How can I do that?
Me - For f*** sake
Mentioned up thread, but people who turn right across you when you're waiting to turn right out of a T junction. So easy to have some consideration and let you out, especially when you're making eye contact to confirm that you're awake.
Conversely, bus driver angrily gesticulating at my hesitation in said situation after waving me out, as there's an overgrown hedge and a mobility scooter obscuring my view to the right, and I'm not taking his word it's safe to go. Obviously I reported him, later reading in the local paper that he'd been sacked, lost his pension, home and even his dog doesn't love him any more.
Campervan tailgaiters on B roads. Yes, it's slow, and possibly annoying you. I'm aware of this and want to pull in to a suitable break in the verge to let you and others pass. I can't because you'll get my tow bar embedded in your grill as I soon as I brake to try and help you.
Conversely, bus driver angrily gesticulating at my hesitation in said situation after waving me out, as there's an overgrown hedge and a mobility scooter obscuring my view to the right, and I'm not taking his word it's safe to go. Obviously I reported him, later reading in the local paper that he'd been sacked, lost his pension, home and even his dog doesn't love him any more.
Campervan tailgaiters on B roads. Yes, it's slow, and possibly annoying you. I'm aware of this and want to pull in to a suitable break in the verge to let you and others pass. I can't because you'll get my tow bar embedded in your grill as I soon as I brake to try and help you.
On turning right at junctions, when did turning right gain priority over straight ahead when two vehicles are on opposing sides of a crossroads with a main road.
I cross a B road on my way home and there is often a car opposite me waiting to turn right.
It's amazing how many seem confused by the fact I think I have priority.
I cross a B road on my way home and there is often a car opposite me waiting to turn right.
It's amazing how many seem confused by the fact I think I have priority.
I've no problem in motorbikes filtering between a line of stationery traffic at lights on my local dual carriageway, but what really boils my p*ss is when a weedy little scooter does the same.
Motorbike = sharp getaway and no further delay
Scooter = sharp getaway but hit 30 mph and then force every single car you've got ahead of to pull out and overtake you.
Next set of lights....rinse and repeat!
Motorbike = sharp getaway and no further delay
Scooter = sharp getaway but hit 30 mph and then force every single car you've got ahead of to pull out and overtake you.
Next set of lights....rinse and repeat!
Cars waiting to turn right in a dedicated right-turn lane, with their wheels already turned to the right; get shunted from behind and instead of being pushed into the empty space directly ahead, they’re being punted straight into the flow of oncoming traffic they’re currently waiting to clear.
Drivers who barely slow for T-shaped mini roundabouts because they’re going straight on and they can see there’s nothing coming the other way/from their right. However the poor sods trying to emerge struggle to do so because they’re having to give way to fast-approaching traffic not even at the mini RAB yet. These excessive speed differentials are what cause so many “near misses” in the dashcam thread and it’s often the DCW themselves approaching a busy junction at speed, barely slowing because they think they have priority then getting upset when traffic already at/on the mini RAB disturbs their planned warp-speed trajectory through said junction.
Drivers who take information but don’t give it back. For example, slowing on a motorway for an unexpected queue ahead; I’ll be slowing showing brake lights and hazards, however the driver behind will often not bother switching their own hazards on to relay that message further back.
Drivers planning to leave the motorway at the upcoming exit, but don’t indicate until physically leaving the carriageway, whereas I’ll likely have been indicating since the 300yard board. Sometimes the hard shoulder ends and becomes the slip road, however these non-indicating drivers won’t even move across until the chevrons are imminently about to begin, peeling the slip road away from the main carriageway. It means you are in a constant guessing game as to whether the vehicle ahead is intended to take the exit until the absolute last possible second.
Drivers who speed but are reluctant to slow/show consideration for drivers who are driving bang on the posted limit.
Drivers who barely slow for T-shaped mini roundabouts because they’re going straight on and they can see there’s nothing coming the other way/from their right. However the poor sods trying to emerge struggle to do so because they’re having to give way to fast-approaching traffic not even at the mini RAB yet. These excessive speed differentials are what cause so many “near misses” in the dashcam thread and it’s often the DCW themselves approaching a busy junction at speed, barely slowing because they think they have priority then getting upset when traffic already at/on the mini RAB disturbs their planned warp-speed trajectory through said junction.
Drivers who take information but don’t give it back. For example, slowing on a motorway for an unexpected queue ahead; I’ll be slowing showing brake lights and hazards, however the driver behind will often not bother switching their own hazards on to relay that message further back.
Drivers planning to leave the motorway at the upcoming exit, but don’t indicate until physically leaving the carriageway, whereas I’ll likely have been indicating since the 300yard board. Sometimes the hard shoulder ends and becomes the slip road, however these non-indicating drivers won’t even move across until the chevrons are imminently about to begin, peeling the slip road away from the main carriageway. It means you are in a constant guessing game as to whether the vehicle ahead is intended to take the exit until the absolute last possible second.
Drivers who speed but are reluctant to slow/show consideration for drivers who are driving bang on the posted limit.
Mr Miata said:
Metal Guru said:
Glosphil said:
I have a friend who never uses A/C to clear misted up windows. I have pointed out that A/C does not mean Air/Cold but Air/Conditioning.
On a recent journey with 5 of us in the car his method of minimal demisting was wiping a small wet rag over a small area of the windscreen directly in front of him.
He knows I was an IAM Observer & at journeys end said to me, "So would that drive have passed the IAM test?
Me - No
Him - Why not?
Me - The examiner would expect you to know that cars are partially glass so you can see out & keep the windows clear so you can do so.
Him - How can I do that?
Me - For f*** sake
There are many, many people who are unaware of what the a/c does. I blame green programmes that tell you you’ll get an extra 1/2 mpg by turning the a/c off. Maybe , and a lot just use it in the summers days then only when it gets to 30C.On a recent journey with 5 of us in the car his method of minimal demisting was wiping a small wet rag over a small area of the windscreen directly in front of him.
He knows I was an IAM Observer & at journeys end said to me, "So would that drive have passed the IAM test?
Me - No
Him - Why not?
Me - The examiner would expect you to know that cars are partially glass so you can see out & keep the windows clear so you can do so.
Him - How can I do that?
Me - For f*** sake
If we all get in the car on a warm day and i turn the A/C on to cool the car down, she'll open the windows straight away - i'm like...DONT do that! The car will cool down much more quickly if we stop letting the warm air from outside in and the cool air from inside out!
After a long time of being a Max AC or nothing person (me) - i now pretty much have the climate on 'auto' and let it do it's thing, which it does. I've learned to let it do what it's supposed to do.
Now, to get my missus to comply...................
JimSuperSix said:
Its another one of those PH-specific things that crops up every single time anyone mentions that they let people out of sideroads - the other poster will innevitably assume they let people out when they're all doing 60mph and that this will AWLAYS result in a huge crash and you must NEVER do this and you are a TERRIBLE driver if you do blah blah blah...
In the real world its called manners and happens all the time without anyone crashing and allows people to get on with their journey and makes us all just a little bit happier during their day.
It's unnecessary and I've witnessed 3 collisions near my house directly caused by this silliness. I made no assumptions.In the real world its called manners and happens all the time without anyone crashing and allows people to get on with their journey and makes us all just a little bit happier during their day.
People coming off a motorway who just will not get into the leftmost lane because they know that god will provide a magic gap further up near the point of no return.
(Or they’ll just barge in at the last moment).
Extra progress made compared to just getting in the f
king correct lane = 0.
(Or they’ll just barge in at the last moment).
Extra progress made compared to just getting in the f
king correct lane = 0.(1) Tailgaters who, when I give them a window to overtake, dont do it / cannot process whats happening. I will often give them some clues that I do not want them too close, slowly slowing down and hanging left or progressively braking into corners or when giving way to oncoming, so that they get a (safe) wake up call and think to back off without going so far as brake checking. When that fails I will drop left with indicators on or come to a stop to let them by - and they just sit behind me neither overtaking nor doing anything. Just a puzzled look on their faces. I then realise they do not seem to know they are even tailgating. At that point I have to get going again with them still behind me, looking even more confused.
(2) similarly and echoing above when roads are tight with parked cars and I am trying to do the give way to who has priority thing, i will hang back to the person in front so that we dont get caught out with lots of cars facing eachother, and one set of cars having to back up. I will give way or if there is room I will go to the next gap in such a way the oncoming cars do not even have to think about it I am working around them. But what annoys me is that without fail the car behind will come with me and inevitably get stuck because they have not pre-empted. So the face off happens and I get caught up despite slotting into a gap. Again- puzzled looks on faces, they are just not with it. Who knows whats going on in their minds. Certainly nothing pre-emptive.
(2) similarly and echoing above when roads are tight with parked cars and I am trying to do the give way to who has priority thing, i will hang back to the person in front so that we dont get caught out with lots of cars facing eachother, and one set of cars having to back up. I will give way or if there is room I will go to the next gap in such a way the oncoming cars do not even have to think about it I am working around them. But what annoys me is that without fail the car behind will come with me and inevitably get stuck because they have not pre-empted. So the face off happens and I get caught up despite slotting into a gap. Again- puzzled looks on faces, they are just not with it. Who knows whats going on in their minds. Certainly nothing pre-emptive.
OP, if you see a gap why don't you just go? If I'm in slow moving stop start traffic I leave a good space, and if the car in front stops, by the time I've caught op they're going again. If someone is waiting in a side road and they see a gap coming, they can pull out into it. If they pull out in front of me into the gap well good for them, it just eases the traffic flow.
Johnnytheboy said:
1. People who have be looking round you when behind you, so they drive right on the centre line. Before anyone jumps in, this when there is zero chance of overtaking.
2. People who do that weird thing at temporary traffic lights when they get waaaay over to the right really far back when approaching the light on green.
3. People who brake and accelerate really sharply at changes of speed limit.
1. says you. who made you road police2. People who do that weird thing at temporary traffic lights when they get waaaay over to the right really far back when approaching the light on green.
3. People who brake and accelerate really sharply at changes of speed limit.
Edited by Johnnytheboy on Thursday 14th October 17:38
2. i do this. Lots of folk take an age/hesitant to go at temp traffic lights that are single lane, imo it encourages them to go and worse case i have to pull over again.
3. why whats wrong with that? i think its admirable they are adhering to said speed limits. Are you someone who slows well in advance and eases off hundreds of yards behind holding everyone up so as not to have to break then conversely speeds up before the limit increases again, thus breaking said limit? or just dawdle once past the limit increase again annoying everyone in your wake?
Think those 3 say a lot about your own driving!
Cheekster247 said:
I've no problem in motorbikes filtering between a line of stationery traffic at lights on my local dual carriageway, but what really boils my p*ss is when a weedy little scooter does the same.
Motorbike = sharp getaway and no further delay
Scooter = sharp getaway but hit 30 mph and then force every single car you've got ahead of to pull out and overtake you.
Next set of lights....rinse and repeat!
Nobody is forced to overtake anyone.Motorbike = sharp getaway and no further delay
Scooter = sharp getaway but hit 30 mph and then force every single car you've got ahead of to pull out and overtake you.
Next set of lights....rinse and repeat!
Drivers who don't look further ahead than the end of their bonnet, where I work is a split site, with each part split by a very busy local road which I can cross as a pedestrian 20 times a day easy.
I will be waiting at the side of the road to cross, I can see up ahead to the busy roundabout and everything slowing to a stop so what do many drivers do, rather than looking ahead to see that the traffic is coming to a standstill and slowing to leave a gap for me to cross, they carry on and stop right in line to where I'm looking to cross the road.
It's a similar scenario in supermarket car parks, I'm sat in the car waiting to drive out of a space, indicating too and someone stops dead across me as there is now a small line of stationary cars caused by a car a few cars up manouvering into a free space, now if they had looked further ahead than the end of their bonnet A) a space could have been left so that I could have just driven out, thank you very much for allowing me to do so and B) Oh look there is now a parking space for you too!
I will be waiting at the side of the road to cross, I can see up ahead to the busy roundabout and everything slowing to a stop so what do many drivers do, rather than looking ahead to see that the traffic is coming to a standstill and slowing to leave a gap for me to cross, they carry on and stop right in line to where I'm looking to cross the road.
It's a similar scenario in supermarket car parks, I'm sat in the car waiting to drive out of a space, indicating too and someone stops dead across me as there is now a small line of stationary cars caused by a car a few cars up manouvering into a free space, now if they had looked further ahead than the end of their bonnet A) a space could have been left so that I could have just driven out, thank you very much for allowing me to do so and B) Oh look there is now a parking space for you too!
1. People who do not understand that it’s incredibly difficult to see a small hand gesture, then get pissy when you don’t pull out in front of them.
2. Those that despite seeing me in the unobstructed lane when there is a line of parked cars, pull out into my lane to get passed and force me to stop. Even worse is when they do it because the car in front did (only annoyed if they can obviously see me)
3. Those who que to overtake
4. Those who use the left lane for exit 2 of 2 on a roundabout when there is only 1 lane for that exit.
5. Those who drive really close to cars parked on the left on a narrow road even though there is no car approaching from the other direction/there would be no way to fit 2 cars anyway
2. Those that despite seeing me in the unobstructed lane when there is a line of parked cars, pull out into my lane to get passed and force me to stop. Even worse is when they do it because the car in front did (only annoyed if they can obviously see me)
3. Those who que to overtake
4. Those who use the left lane for exit 2 of 2 on a roundabout when there is only 1 lane for that exit.
5. Those who drive really close to cars parked on the left on a narrow road even though there is no car approaching from the other direction/there would be no way to fit 2 cars anyway
Edited by crosseyedlion on Monday 6th December 08:36
Edited by crosseyedlion on Monday 6th December 08:42
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