Any of you guys bought a car at auction?

Any of you guys bought a car at auction?

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V8Wagon

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1,707 posts

175 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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There is one local to me and I thought I might pop down to see what goes on. Best I probably leave my wallet at home on my first visit! :lol:

In your experience are the cars that sell there significantly cheaper than elsewhere?

Phil Dicky

7,193 posts

278 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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Unless you really know what you are doing and can afford to buy a pup dont buy from an auction. I've bought and sold quite a few, made a few bob and lost alot, and I regard myself as quite knowledgable smile

GKP

15,099 posts

256 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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I have. Many years ago. It was an XJ6 and was awesome. It only needed a 'small' amount of work to make it MOTable. biggrin

V8Wagon

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1,707 posts

175 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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Cheers guys. I was looking at either ex-motability cars as they have a specific auction for these or main dealer px's. I've got a budget of 5k so I was looking at something pretty new(ish)

Legacywr

13,423 posts

203 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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If you use the search function you should find many threads advising not to buy a car at auction!

Blown2CV

29,698 posts

218 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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dealers/traders do it a lot as if they buy a lemon they can shift it on to the trade (sold as seen), maybe even a small profit, without legal comebacks and the hassle of being up-front about a car's faults. Private individuals can have the perception of being 'stung' but in reality can still sell the car on at a reduced retail price, and depending on what the fault is, may even make some money or more likely not make a loss. The hassle comes with selling a lemon to the public, even at way less than book price. People are stupid and will be demanding an immaculate car and a discount no matter that price or condition it really is.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

178 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Blown2CV said:
(sold as seen)
No such thing according to trading standards when I rung them about a Lemon a dealer had sold me thumbup

johnpeat

5,328 posts

280 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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StottyZr said:
No such thing according to trading standards when I rung them about a Lemon a dealer had sold me thumbup
UK law offers CONSUMERS (note this bit) protection against goods which are "not fit for the purpose" or "not of merchantable quality".

To buy at auction you usually have to register as a business/trader - cars bought are considered 'trade sales' and thus you waive those rights entirely (business to business transactions being exempt from consumer protection laws).

Thus there's NO comeback with cars bought at auction above and beyond anything a specific site may offer. Some sites give you an hour to report significant faults that they didn't mention in the catalogue, but many offer nothing.

You would have comeback if the car transpired to be stolen or have outstanding finance of course - auctions are supposed to check that before selling it...

Summary:

Buy only if you can afford to lose a bit of money should you buy a dud.
BE CAREFUL as auction prices are often not far short of retail anyway - know EXACTLY what the car is worth, take off a bit and pay not a penny more.

Edited by johnpeat on Tuesday 31st May 12:52

carreauchompeur

18,185 posts

219 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Bought loads, never done too badly. Did have a Primera yonks ago that needed a new engine, but that was mainly due to inexperience and partly due to a cock-up by my garage who worked on it.

Just don't get carried away with the price, and remember to factor in the buyer's premium. I'll be off down Bristol on Thursday for a billy bargain!

Acheron

643 posts

179 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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How much cheaper would you get a car at auction compared to a main dealer?

Im talking about e90 3-series, M Sport diesels here.

Blown2CV

29,698 posts

218 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Acheron said:
How much cheaper would you get a car at auction compared to a main dealer?

Im talking about e90 3-series, M Sport diesels here.
Trade price, i.e. from the book. Maybe a couple of grand, maybe more. Issue is, you have to think about why a given car has been sent to auction rather than retailed. Some of the time it is because they are contract hire cars at the end of their contract, but more often they are massive miles, ex daily-rental, repo, PoS's or just awful nick. It takes some effort to find a gem, but auctions are fun. Go along and check it out if you have time.

Blown2CV

29,698 posts

218 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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StottyZr said:
Blown2CV said:
(sold as seen)
No such thing according to trading standards when I rung them about a Lemon a dealer had sold me thumbup
you are a consumer not a trader i presume

Acheron

643 posts

179 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Can anyone just go and turn up for free? You dont need to pay to get in or anything?

Ari

19,635 posts

230 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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V8Wagon said:
Cheers guys. I was looking at either ex-motability cars as they have a specific auction for these or main dealer px's. I've got a budget of 5k so I was looking at something pretty new(ish)
Bear in mind that Mobility have two lines for returned cars depending on condition. The retail-able ones are put on a web site and retailed direct to dealers. Those that aren't up to standard are auctioned.

In other words it's all the sub standard ones from Mobility that go to auction.



johnpeat

5,328 posts

280 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Acheron said:
Can anyone just go and turn up for free? You dont need to pay to get in or anything?
Varies - you can mostly turn-up and watch but to register as a bidder usually needs some paperwork and sometimes a bond (which they keep if you win and don't pay-up).

richardxjr

7,561 posts

225 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Eastbourne? Good for motorbility I think. Have often looked and sometimes bought from there in the (distant) past.

CS111

273 posts

199 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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I bought my mums last fiesta at a motobility auction, it had 6k on the clock and was split mint
The car hasnt missed a beat in 3 years
Couldnt really go wrong with a car with 6k on it to be fair
It took 2 or 3 visits to get the right car though

ChairsWithHairs

24,004 posts

209 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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The father has purchased almost all his cars from auction - either ex fleet or ex motability. Never had an issue (not to say you won't!). Any abuse seems to be viewable as at least they are serviced on time (though I'm sure someone will correct me).

Blown2CV

29,698 posts

218 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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CS111 said:
I bought my mums last fiesta at a motobility auction, it had 6k on the clock and was split mint
The car hasnt missed a beat in 3 years
Couldnt really go wrong with a car with 6k on it to be fair
It took 2 or 3 visits to get the right car though
to be fair it prob got sent to block as a risky low-miler, lifetime of short journeys and all that.

CS111

273 posts

199 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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Alot of moto cars I see at auction are low milers .
Just checking the next auction and there are loads with 10-20k max on the clock