Name me few Engines with a broader powerband ?

Name me few Engines with a broader powerband ?

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S3000

Original Poster:

513 posts

174 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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So after switching from a sports car to a 330d i realised that peak power isnt everything for daily driving.
My question is are there more engines with a Broad powerband like the 3 Liter Engine from BMW ?



croakey

1,193 posts

203 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Vr6?

PaulB81

883 posts

175 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Surely any N/A engine 3L and above is going to be that way?

AndyBrew

2,774 posts

234 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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VR38DET pulls your face off at any revs.

anonymous-user

69 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Are we talking about spread of torque over the operational rpm of the engine, or torque over the "absolute" rev range of the engine??

This has torque across it's entire operation range:




peak torque=80rpm, peak power=80 rpm !!! ;-)


A modern DI gasoline engine will make 100nm/litre across practically it's entire operating range

(say 1250 rpm to 6750 rpm)

Celt

1,264 posts

207 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Is a 3 litre petrol better for broader power band than the 3 litre diesel from BMW?

Never driven a large diesel engines and those I have driven have a tiny window of power.

FreeLitres

6,115 posts

192 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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3 litre petrol you say? Perfect choice!

There happens to be a nice X-Type 3.0 in the PH classifieds for only £2200 o.n.o.!


PhillipM

6,535 posts

204 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Celt said:
Is a 3 litre petrol better for broader power band than the 3 litre diesel from BMW?

Never driven a large diesel engines and those I have driven have a tiny window of power.
from the standard dyno's, looks like the 330d has about a 500rpm plateau where it has peak power, before hitting the limiter...

That's not a very broad powerband, perhaps he meant torque band...

anonymous-user

69 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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AndyBrew said:
VR38DET pulls your face off at any revs.
And was developed in Sunny Northamptonshire!!

(where all the best engines come from ;-)

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

237 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Max_Torque said:
AndyBrew said:
VR38DET pulls your face off at any revs.
And was developed in Sunny Northamptonshire!!

(where all the most expensive engines come from ;-)
tongue out

chevy-stu

5,392 posts

243 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Most decent sized petrol or diesel engined cars will have a broad power range. Sure the gearing and weight of the car the engine is in will have some relevance in the actual driving experience.

Just to say, I don't think my 530 diesel BMW has a broad power range at all, it comes on like a switch at 2500 revs and builds till 4500 then runs off, not broad at all IMO. My 6.3 V8 petrol engined car pulls much nicer and very strong from 3000 rpm right to 6000 limit, but would pull even lower in the rev range with a less radical cam.

My old twin turbo V6 2.5 MItsubishi had bags of torque off boost, then nuts till 7K. The 4 litre straight six Jag was pretty good too.

AndyBrew

2,774 posts

234 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Max_Torque said:
And was developed in Sunny Northamptonshire!!

(where all the best engines come from ;-)
I never knew that, I assumed it would have been the land of the rising sun, learn something everyday smile

Went out in the GT-R today and it really is a remarkable engine, oodles of torque, doesn't matter what gear, what rpm it just drags the cars ass up to silly speeds in seconds, I bloody love it!

Marf

22,907 posts

256 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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How broad is broad? 3-7500 my MR2 Turbo pulls nicely in any gear smile

anonymous-user

69 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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My car with the ALS enabled, does 480Nm at idle (1200rpm) and does 490Nm at peak power (7800rpm) having been via 610Nm @ 4200rpm.

Pretty much goes like stink any time the engine is running ;-)

Tango13

9,500 posts

191 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Max_Torque said:
Are we talking about spread of torque over the operational rpm of the engine, or torque over the "absolute" rev range of the engine??

This has torque across it's entire operation range:




peak torque=80rpm, peak power=80 rpm !!! ;-)


A modern DI gasoline engine will make 100nm/litre across practically it's entire operating range

(say 1250 rpm to 6750 rpm)
A rev happy buzz box of an engine if ever I saw one wink This one generates 1001hp and 175,250lbs of torque at a mere 30rpm

anonymous-user

69 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Tango13 said:
Max_Torque said:
Are we talking about spread of torque over the operational rpm of the engine, or torque over the "absolute" rev range of the engine??

This has torque across it's entire operation range:




peak torque=80rpm, peak power=80 rpm !!! ;-)


A modern DI gasoline engine will make 100nm/litre across practically it's entire operating range

(say 1250 rpm to 6750 rpm)
A rev happy buzz box of an engine if ever I saw one wink This one generates 1001hp and 175,250lbs of torque at a mere 30rpm
My other half could probably still manage to stall it however.......... ;-)

PhillipM

6,535 posts

204 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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Max_Torque said:
My other half could probably still manage to stall it however.......... ;-)
Wait until she starts it in-gear...

Zad

12,856 posts

251 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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That's not an internal combustion engine though is it? Looks like a triple expansion steam jobbie. Impossible to stall, and torque from stationary.


Zod

35,295 posts

273 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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S3000 said:
So after switching from a sports car to a 330d i realised that peak power isnt everything for daily driving.
My question is are there more engines with a Broad powerband like the 3 Liter Engine from BMW ?
The petrol version.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

219 months

Sunday 2nd October 2011
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My Nissian micra 1.0 has a broader power range then your diesel engine.

I know my caterham 7 also had a wider power band

Simple physics my dear boy, diesel doesn't burn too fast