If not a corsa (c) then what ?
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Need something no more than Corsa sized, 3 or 5 door doesn't matter, needs to be petrol (low road tax so no more than F class) really good economy, usual toys, pas, aircon, leccy windows etc etc and reliable.
Let's set a price of £1,500 max
I like Corsas personally, but curious as to what else could fit the bill, exclude the Ford KA.
Any ideas?
Let's set a price of £1,500 max
I like Corsas personally, but curious as to what else could fit the bill, exclude the Ford KA.
Any ideas?
techguyone said:
Need something no more than Corsa sized, 3 or 5 door doesn't matter, needs to be petrol (low road tax so no more than F class) really good economy, usual toys, pas, aircon, leccy windows etc etc and reliable.
Let's set a price of £1,500 max
I like Corsas personally, but curious as to what else could fit the bill, exclude the Ford KA.
Any ideas?
erm well ok.Let's set a price of £1,500 max
I like Corsas personally, but curious as to what else could fit the bill, exclude the Ford KA.
Any ideas?
1. why?
2. all the toys and only £1500
3. WTF is reliable???
or rather please define what is unreliable4. There are hundreds of Corsa like cars - any and all are viable alternatives. But if performance isn't a concern then there's not really much to divide them apart from availability, parts prices, colour and styling.
300bhp/ton said:
erm well ok.
1. why?
2. all the toys and only £1500
3. WTF is reliable??? or rather please define what is unreliable
4. There are hundreds of Corsa like cars - any and all are viable alternatives. But if performance isn't a concern then there's not really much to divide them apart from availability, parts prices, colour and styling.
Well why is because at this time I don't have the resources to get my <insert ridiculously powered gas guzzling supercar here> I don't actually need (spacewise) anything bigger than a Corsa, things like low insurance, low tax, lotsa mpg, and low bills are really appealing.1. why?
2. all the toys and only £1500
3. WTF is reliable???
or rather please define what is unreliable4. There are hundreds of Corsa like cars - any and all are viable alternatives. But if performance isn't a concern then there's not really much to divide them apart from availability, parts prices, colour and styling.
No doubt as time & circumstances change I'll go back to a 200+ bhp car and be happy, for for now, my original requirements are what fit best.
Reliability IS subjective I know, it's stated so anything that is obviously going to fall apart, Renault perhaps? can be avoided, also other readers may well have experiences in that regard.
Why not the toys? everyone likes their comforts no?
I'm watching and considering all alternatives, because somewhere out there will be something maybe off left field that I hadn't considered.
techguyone said:
HustleRussell said:
Micra? Swift? Yaris?
ETA: almost anything except the Corsa C because in my experience they're about the worst of the superminis...
Ah you've had a bad experience? what happened to you.ETA: almost anything except the Corsa C because in my experience they're about the worst of the superminis...
Dad's accident repair business ran a fleet of them and when new the cars were okay and reliableish- not the nicest to drive, the ride is quite stiff and jiggly, the pedal feel is a bit rubbish, the gear box is pretty notchy, the handbrakes can be a bit iffy... but on the whole they seemed to be alright little cars.
So when the fleet went back, my mum bought one of the ex-fleet cars off the lease company.
She soon had a persistant immobiliser fault which was cured by an auto electrician after we lost confidence in Vauxhall.
They can leak oil from the pressure sensor which is only a small problem but in our case the oil level went unchecked and was allowed to run low (the driver's fault). This necessitated a head gasket, timing belt kit etc.
The handbrake is beyond adjusting- pretty hopeless. Mum leaves it in gear these days.
The gear linkage required replacement at less than 30k miles due to poor design.
It had a factory recall to prevent the ABS from setting the car on fire.
Now at 36k miles the suspension is getting noisy, common problem- I think ours needs ball joints and strut tops.
These are small problems in isolation but add up to quite a dissatisfying ownership experience. All the while my 2001 Clio 8v was faultless (requiring only servicing, brakes and cam belt between 56k and 85k), rode and handled better too.
Shinobi said:
300bhp/ton said:
3. WTF is reliable???
I know your not the brightest spark and like to troll every thread till you have killed it but seriously...... Reliable would indicate that the OP wants it to get him around without breaking down alot and not being a money pit. techguyone said:
Well why is because at this time I don't have the resources to get my <insert ridiculously powered gas guzzling supercar here> I don't actually need (spacewise) anything bigger than a Corsa, things like low insurance, low tax, lotsa mpg, and low bills are really appealing.
No doubt as time & circumstances change I'll go back to a 200+ bhp car and be happy, for for now, my original requirements are what fit best.
Reliability IS subjective I know, it's stated so anything that is obviously going to fall apart, Renault perhaps? can be avoided, also other readers may well have experiences in that regard.
Why not the toys? everyone likes their comforts no?
I'm watching and considering all alternatives, because somewhere out there will be something maybe off left field that I hadn't considered.
Ok well there are lots of choices really. The Corsa is a perfectly fine average car. It doesn't really do anything wrong, but that's about it. It's not exactly striking or brilliant at anything either (although most small hatches aren't to be fair). So on this basis, yes a Corsa is a perfectly fine vehicle to buy, but it is somewhat white goods and you'd be no better/worse off if you bought a similar vehicle from any other car maker.No doubt as time & circumstances change I'll go back to a 200+ bhp car and be happy, for for now, my original requirements are what fit best.
Reliability IS subjective I know, it's stated so anything that is obviously going to fall apart, Renault perhaps? can be avoided, also other readers may well have experiences in that regard.
Why not the toys? everyone likes their comforts no?
I'm watching and considering all alternatives, because somewhere out there will be something maybe off left field that I hadn't considered.
I suppose:
-does it actually need to be a hatchback? Do you have a need for the high roof line, tall boot space and ability to fold the seats down? (if you do, fine I'm just asking
)-How many seats do you need? You've said 3 door, so I'm guessing carrying people regularly isn't a prime concern?
-Does it need to be a small car? Parking space, just personal preference or is it for economy?
-Petrol is fine, but you've also said "lotsa mpg". What sort of mpg do you need/want, or how many miles a month will you be doing?
-As I said, petrol is fine, but why not diesel if mpg is an issue?
-What sort of distance will be using the car for? If it's long distance will a compact hatch be the most comfy?
-What sorts of roads will you be driving on? If it's B roads, then there might be more 'fun' options than the Corsa while maintaining all the other points. If it's motorway use mostly, then again you might find a more comfy option available without sacrificing any of your other points.
-Is age/image a factor?
In short, yes a Corsa is fine if all you want is a utility and you care nothing about the experience. However I firmly believe you could still meet all your requirements with either great fun, comfort, interest or combination of all of these.
300bhp/ton said:
Ok well there are lots of choices really. The Corsa is a perfectly fine average car. It doesn't really do anything wrong, but that's about it. It's not exactly striking or brilliant at anything either (although most small hatches aren't to be fair). So on this basis, yes a Corsa is a perfectly fine vehicle to buy, but it is somewhat white goods and you'd be no better/worse off if you bought a similar vehicle from any other car maker.
I suppose:
-does it actually need to be a hatchback? Do you have a need for the high roof line, tall boot space and ability to fold the seats down? (if you do, fine I'm just asking )
-How many seats do you need? You've said 3 door, so I'm guessing carrying people regularly isn't a prime concern?
-Does it need to be a small car? Parking space, just personal preference or is it for economy?
-Petrol is fine, but you've also said "lotsa mpg". What sort of mpg do you need/want, or how many miles a month will you be doing?
-As I said, petrol is fine, but why not diesel if mpg is an issue?
-What sort of distance will be using the car for? If it's long distance will a compact hatch be the most comfy?
-What sorts of roads will you be driving on? If it's B roads, then there might be more 'fun' options than the Corsa while maintaining all the other points. If it's motorway use mostly, then again you might find a more comfy option available without sacrificing any of your other points.
-Is age/image a factor?
In short, yes a Corsa is fine if all you want is a utility and you care nothing about the experience. However I firmly believe you could still meet all your requirements with either great fun, comfort, interest or combination of all of these.
Yes a hatch gives me the most versatilityI suppose:
-does it actually need to be a hatchback? Do you have a need for the high roof line, tall boot space and ability to fold the seats down? (if you do, fine I'm just asking
)-How many seats do you need? You've said 3 door, so I'm guessing carrying people regularly isn't a prime concern?
-Does it need to be a small car? Parking space, just personal preference or is it for economy?
-Petrol is fine, but you've also said "lotsa mpg". What sort of mpg do you need/want, or how many miles a month will you be doing?
-As I said, petrol is fine, but why not diesel if mpg is an issue?
-What sort of distance will be using the car for? If it's long distance will a compact hatch be the most comfy?
-What sorts of roads will you be driving on? If it's B roads, then there might be more 'fun' options than the Corsa while maintaining all the other points. If it's motorway use mostly, then again you might find a more comfy option available without sacrificing any of your other points.
-Is age/image a factor?
In short, yes a Corsa is fine if all you want is a utility and you care nothing about the experience. However I firmly believe you could still meet all your requirements with either great fun, comfort, interest or combination of all of these.
I'm not carrying lots of people around, small hatch size offers more than say a 2+2 coupe where the rear seats only *just* qualify. This really rules out the KA too.
Small for economy, plus with grown up kids, I'm not needing anything large these days
I'm mostly doing shortish journeys, around town, bit of A & B road driving, not enough mileage to consider a diesel
Not too bothered on age/image I proved my self to the world a long time ago. Comfort is at this point marginally more important than ultimate driving feel, harsh suspension etc etc
Costs too will dictate how much *image* I can get, I'm acutely aware of how little £1,500 is to play with.
Papa Hotel said:
HustleRussell said:
If comfort is a primary consideration, definitely don't go for a corsa. Hard seats, hard suspension and lower profile tyres than most other small hatches.
Careful, 300bhp/ton will be all over that. Define comfort please. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff