RE: BMW 530i (E39) | Shed of the Week

RE: BMW 530i (E39) | Shed of the Week

Friday 31st January 2020

BMW 530i (E39) | Shed of the Week

One of the best BMW designs ever invested with one of its finest engines...



Anniversaries play a big part in the automotive world. They used to loom large in Shed’s world too until, in yet another backfiring attempt at light comedy, he gave Mrs Shed a broom for their 20th wedding anniversary. It was an artisan-crafted hazel creation that cost Shed a fortune. He genuinely thought that she would like it and had honestly given no thought to any witch connection. At some point you would think he might learn not to test Mrs Shed’s patience, or her impressive ability to ram poles where they hurt the most.

On that subject, kind of, few car manufacturers can resist a birthday-based opportunity to hoist a little heritage up the corporate flagpole. 2020 will be the 25th anniversary of the BMW E39 5 Series. Once upon a time, a car firm faced with this sort of situation would have invited the press to fly out to somewhere warm with the idea of testing a heritage collection car against the current incumbent. That would be a risky PR exercise with the E39. With fresh suspension and a nicely loosened-up motor, a well-preserved example of this Japanese-designed (not a typo – look up Joji Nagashima), Chris Bangle-approved saloon would stand up pretty well even today. Equally loosened by the relaxing effects of expensive beverages, silly journos entrusted with the task of saying how far the 5 Series had come in 25 years might reach a disastrously incorrect conclusion. That would be epaulette-removing time for the poor PR bod responsible for organising the shindig, so don't expect any of that to happen.

Luckily, for less than the price of a night’s all-expenses-paid Riviera-based accommodation for a couple of hard-drinking hacks, you can conduct your own independent heritage test by buying this week’s shed, a 530i. Not just any old 530i, either. According to the private vendor it’s one of 150 ‘Individual’ runout models of the 530i Sport, and it’s in Aegean Blue too, one of the most desirable BMW colours.


The downside of cars first seen on the road 25 years ago is that a lot of them are now quite well used. Even though our last-year-of-production shed is as young as an E39 can be, it’s still 17 years old and has covered 180,000 miles. Although the MOT is short (March), the history of previous tests suggests that some back-end suspension work was done to rectify advisories in the November 2017 test. That’s good to know because you’d like to think that it won’t have 5 Series shimmy, an annoying steering wheel wobble at everyday speeds that has evaded many owners’ best efforts to cure it. Just about every moving chassis component has been named as the culprit by someone or other at some point in time. The only possible cause that Shed hasn’t seen mentioned is misshapen tyres. He only throws that in because his own even more ancient German wagon recently had a terrible wheel shake that turned out to be nothing more technical than an out-of-round front tyre. A badly aligned E39 will quickly grind down the inside edges of its back tyres, especially if it’s a 228hp 530.

The good thing about the 5 Series saloon versus the Touring is that it doesn't have the estate’s irksome self-levelling airbag rear suspension. What it does have however is the automatic gearbox, which can cause trouble. On top of that you have other E39 mech glitchery. ABS, stability control and SRS warning lights can come on, either correctly in the case of the Bosch ABS module failing, which it does, or slightly misleadingly in the case of the SRS light because that might just be a faulty passenger seat occupancy sensor. The vendor admits that this car has an issue with its ABS sensor.

Under the bonnet you need to check on the integrity of the alternator, power steering pump, radiator and hoses, and look for oiliness around the cam covers and oil filter gasket, although that last one should be OK as our shed has just had an oil, filters and plugs service. Crank and camshaft position sensors, water pump impellers, crankcase ventilation valves, injectors, fans for the heating/AC and the alternator and piston seals for the VANOS variable valve timing system can all blight an E39 owner’s life.


Ahead of the bonnet, the headlight lenses get milky, but the test history indicates that these were defogged after the 2017 test. Behind the bonnet, in the bit you sit in, you have one of the best BMW interiors in terms of design and materials used. Typical problems in this area include electrics for the locks and windows, busted dash bulbs and missing display pixels, which this car has. The Sport seats are great, and apart from some inevitable wear on the outer driver’s side bolster, they look to be in good shape. The seat adjustment motors can blow, though. Check that the handbrake works as they often don’t.

Shed can’t see whether this car has a sunroof, but if it doesn’t that’s good because they can become noisy in operation. Generally speaking, the E39 isn't that hard or expensive to work on when it comes to the small stuff, though, and there is a wealth of knowledge out there to help you.

The seller informs us that, in his opinion (supported by no mention of rust on previous MOTs) it’s structurally sound. Some browning seems to be evident on at least one sill however, and we’re told that rust is also starting to nibble away at the front arches and bonnet’s leading edge. A biggish slice of paint appears to have fallen off the nearside corner of the back bumper too.

There’s no talk of service history in the ad, which could be a simple omission, but the cautious buyer would have to assume that there isn't one, so any decision to buy this 530i at the strong asking price of £1,500 will depend on how much value you place on a high-spec late model E39, and how much money you would be prepared to spend on stopping the rust and sprucing up the cosmetics. You could end up with a nice car, a big pile of bills, or both.


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Author
Discussion

sidewinder500

Original Poster:

1,614 posts

107 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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For pure wafting it is probably a great choice, but times moved on and you may be annoyed by the relative lack of oomph with this torque-light engine (yes, silky smooth and so on, but still no power, do not like to rev the nuts off in cars like this).
Inside it still is classy and the antiquated 'infotainment' is a relief compared to the unnecessary stuff modern motors have to offer.
Relatively slim on the outside with enough space make it a wonderful family roundabout. The next to last reasonably sized family saloon before they all went berserk on size.
And a really comfortable ride, back when engineering let you still feel the car on the road, not get overboard on grip and crashy (i.e. sporty...) ride.

Had a 523 and a 530 long time ago as company car, as said, lack of torque, but sweet everywhere else.

And boy, with that wheels and that colour, its looks seem to get even better with age...

Good shed


Edited by sidewinder500 on Friday 31st January 08:04

greenarrow

4,176 posts

130 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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What a lovely looking car. At that age/mileage and without history though, would it be one for the "brave pill" thread? Still a lot of want from me however! Three times I have nearly bought one of these, but fate (and Mrs GA) have conspired against me! These are so cheap now, Its probably one of the last chances to grab a cheapie before they join the E28/E34 in the classic BMW stable.

Baddie

708 posts

230 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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Had a manual one of these a few years ago. Objectively a great car, but subjectively i preferred driving the E34. The E39 was so competent wasn’t stimulating to drive until it was almost falling off the road (maybe an SE would have been better with a more progressive throttle map and different tyres). On a motorway it finally hit its stride at about 110. Great shed though.

Halo in reverse

164 posts

120 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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Top timber building in the corner of the garden!

Always been a fan of the E39, iconic BMW styling...looks fast even when still. £1500 poss a bit strong

Baddie

708 posts

230 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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sidewinder500 said:
For pure wafting it is probably a great choice, but times moved on and you may be annoyed by the relative lack of oomph with this torque-light engine.
Inside it still is classy and the antiquated 'infotainment' is a relief compared to the unnecessary stuff modern motors have to offer.
Good shed
Often think there’s too much torque around these days, but yes, the Sport version definitely felt like the chassis needed more torque to bring it alive.

sidewinder500

Original Poster:

1,614 posts

107 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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Baddie said:
sidewinder500 said:
For pure wafting it is probably a great choice, but times moved on and you may be annoyed by the relative lack of oomph with this torque-light engine.
Inside it still is classy and the antiquated 'infotainment' is a relief compared to the unnecessary stuff modern motors have to offer.
Good shed
Often think there’s too much torque around these days, but yes, the Sport version definitely felt like the chassis needed more torque to bring it alive.
That's where the M5 came in...

smartie93

99 posts

178 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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sidewinder500 said:
For pure wafting it is probably a great choice, but times moved on and you may be annoyed by the relative lack of oomph with this torque-light engine.
Inside it still is classy and the antiquated 'infotainment' is a relief compared to the unnecessary stuff modern motors have to offer.
Good shed
Lack of torque compared to what? This will still be faster than 90% of things on the road. Plus being a big 6 as opposed to a turbo 4 it will pull from idle in 5th without that horrible vibration you get with cars lacking two hands worth of cylinder count.

All e39s will be rusty to some extent, 20 years on our salty roads will see to that. It just might be covered by the swathes of plastic undertrays, mine needs some attention but it's only a bit of bubbling.

For such an ordinary car, it gets a lot of attention and admiration.

Do BMW still carpet the door pockets in their newer models? biggrin

FA57REN

1,153 posts

68 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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I still remember the first time I saw an E39, it looked so puffy and lardy compared to the preceding E34. Looks ok-ish now but I think that's more because of what came afterwards...

On a sidenote can someone get Shed an editor, the first two paragraphs are unnecessary waffle.

MrGeoff

715 posts

185 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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Looks a bit tatty in places but in all honesty still looks an attractive motor.

aarondbs

873 posts

159 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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Until recently my old E39 530i with a manual ‘box was my 2nd favourite car I’ve owned. It never felt very fast but it certainly wasn’t slow. Everything was just so right about it. I’m actually a little surprised it’s in shed territory. My 2nd favourite, 164 Cloveleaf won’t be again and I’m sure these won’t for long either.

sidewinder500

Original Poster:

1,614 posts

107 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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Lack of torque compared to what? This will still be faster than 90% of things on the road. Plus being a big 6 as opposed to a turbo 4 it will pull from idle in 5th without that horrible vibration you get with cars lacking two hands worth of cylinder count.

Compared to almost everything else...
I'm with you that you may be faster than 90%, but you need to redline it to be, which is not really the point of wafting, just my 2 cents.
But that goes for old x300 or x380s as well (the non - supercharged ones, of course).


cerb4.5lee

36,329 posts

193 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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A lovely shed and much like from me. My brother had a E39 535i in the same colour as this and I used to love driving it. It is one of my most favourite BMW designs.

Turbobanana

7,103 posts

214 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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Not normally a fan of these, but that looks lovely and has brightened up Brexit Day!

cerb4.5lee

36,329 posts

193 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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smartie93 said:
sidewinder500 said:
For pure wafting it is probably a great choice, but times moved on and you may be annoyed by the relative lack of oomph with this torque-light engine.
Inside it still is classy and the antiquated 'infotainment' is a relief compared to the unnecessary stuff modern motors have to offer.
Good shed
Lack of torque compared to what? This will still be faster than 90% of things on the road. Plus being a big 6 as opposed to a turbo 4 it will pull from idle in 5th without that horrible vibration you get with cars lacking two hands worth of cylinder count.
I concur with what he is saying though. My E90 330i with the auto felt laughably bad torque wise for me. It was a mix of hardly any forward momentum or it kicked down several gears and revved its arse off. Not a very good combination in my eyes.

AmosMoses

4,049 posts

178 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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I have a real soft spot for the E39, its such a great BMW.

greenarrow

4,176 posts

130 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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cerb4.5lee said:
A lovely shed and much like from me. My brother had a E39 535i in the same colour as this and I used to love driving it. It is one of my most favourite BMW designs.
Yup, E46 and E39 for me are a high point in BMW styling. No 3 or 5 that has followed has looked as nice and aged as well - all IMHO of course.

smartie93

99 posts

178 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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sidewinder500 said:
Lack of torque compared to what? This will still be faster than 90% of things on the road. Plus being a big 6 as opposed to a turbo 4 it will pull from idle in 5th without that horrible vibration you get with cars lacking two hands worth of cylinder count.

Compared to almost everything else...
I'm with you that you may be faster than 90%, but you need to redline it to be, which is not really the point of wafting, just my 2 cents.
But that goes for old x300 or x380s as well (the non - supercharged ones, of course).
Compared to the modern equivalent of the 530i you mean? Because the average modern car is surely now a sub 1.6 3 cylinder. Plus you would hope in 20 years things had moved on though.

No need to red line it, do you really want to get up to speed as fast as possible when wafting? Mine is a manual and I'm more impressed that I can just drive everywhere in 5th, and that's with only the 2.5!

Mind you, they're a lovely engine to redline...


mrpenks

378 posts

168 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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Going against the masses, I really dislike these. Rust, electrical issues and they aren’t as great to drive as many would have you believe, especially once they have a few miles on them.

alorotom

12,352 posts

200 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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I had a 530i with a manual ‘box. Hateful thing, moved it on after 3weeks.

Bought on the PH hype, never again.

Still a lot of love for these though, to each their own I guess!

RacingBlue

1,446 posts

177 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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A lovely looking thing, but those seats are definitely showing those 180,000 miles...