RE: 2021 Kia Stinger GT-S | PH Review
RE: 2021 Kia Stinger GT-S | PH Review
Monday 26th April 2021

2021 Kia Stinger GT-S | PH Review

There were plenty of reasons for Kia not to bring the Stinger back; here's why we should all be glad it did



For those more traditionally disposed when it comes to fast cars - the popularity of Bargain Barges on PH would suggest a few are here - it's easy to be despondent given the current backdrop. When even Jaguar won't sell a saloon with more than four cylinders, you know it's bad. The BMW M550i below the M5 is great - but it's £70k; the Audi S6 is a diesel and Peugeot's intriguing 508 PSE costs more than an M2. It isn't hard to conclude that the sports saloon game is virtually up. Their popularity has undeniably waned as alternative bodystyles have usurped their place in the model hierarchy, and below the German AMG and RS flagships the pickings are pretty slim. Nevertheless, they do persist.

Cue exhibit number one: the newly revised Kia Stinger GT-S, alive and well in 2021. It costs a few hundred quid more than an Audi A5 Sportback S-Line diesel with 200hp less, it's stuffed full of equipment, looks great and drives really very nicely indeed. Oh yeah, and for this revised model, the Korean manufacturer has dropped the diesel and the four-cylinder petrol for the new car, meaning the only Stinger available is the 365hp V6. Which is all sorts of backwards cool.

This really is the updated car, too, before you ask. Styling changes are modest, amounting to a fresh design of alloy wheel, new LED rear lights (joined by a light bar) and Electric Blue on the colour chart. Which our car didn't have. But why change it? The Stinger was a striking, handsome car at launch, and didn't need meddling with. Kia says the style was inspired by designer Gregory Guillaume's fascination with the classic grand tourers of the 1960s and 70s; that isn't going to change with something like a new grille or fancy sunroof, so the original remains, along with a lot else. And we're glad about that.



More attention has been lavished on the inside, which did require some updating. Handily, that's what's been done, with a swish new 10.25-inch touchscreen, a seven-inch display between the dials and head-up display for the driver and a 64-colour ambient lighting system. Which sounds naff, but works wonders for a sense of occasion at night. Assuming you haven't lit it up in seedy-club hot pink.

It all serves to improve what was essentially a very good cabin. Not 'very good' as in one brimming with chintz and theatre, rather in one that absolutely nails the basics. It is seldom that a modern interior sorts all the functional practicality bits as well as the Stinger does. The excellent front seat drops so low you end up raising it off the floor a tad, the wheel is sensibly sized, thin and with logical buttons, the analogue dials are a model of clarity, the HVAC controls are within easy reach and simple to operate... It sounds stupid, but having endured touchscreen air-con, cheap-looking configurable instruments and steering wheels from spaceships, it's a joy to engage with a dashboard - one with all the tech you could ever reasonably want - that just works. Even the newly installed active safety kit is well integrated and easily configurable. And everything feels of decent quality. Alright, perhaps the touchscreen infotainment is a bit of a reach, but at least it comes with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto connectivity as standard - there's little to fault otherwise.

Continuing the theme, dynamic changes for the Stinger are subtle. Kia says the dampers have been retuned and the electric power steering revised; that's in addition to the fitment of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres, in place of the old Continentals. Otherwise it's unchanged, the slightly lower output compared to launch a result of previous WLTP-imposed fuel economy changes.



As such, the driving experience is only ever so slightly different, but that's no bad thing. "Stinger is not a hard-edged sports car created to be brutally fast at the expense of comfort", says Kia. "Rather, it is about the joy of the journey". Look elsewhere for a stiffly suspended, hyper agile, circuit ready four door, basically - this isn't it. (The fact that both BMW M and AMG have recently softened off their M5 and E63 would suggest buyers aren't so keen, either.) Instead, it's a supple, subdued, relaxing yet rewarding fast saloon, as appealing in reality as that summation hopefully sounds. Kia talks of journeys with the car where "getting to the final destination can be an anti-climax"; which sounds daft, of course, but this is unquestionably is a car to relish spending hours behind the wheel of - even with just a little more wind noise than would be ideal.

The Stinger isn't trying to be something it's not, which aids that impression enormously. 'Eco' mode doesn't kill all throttle response or coast at every opportunity, because this is never going to be an efficient car; by the same token Sport doesn't tense the car unbearably, because it's not intended to work on track. In fact, the new power steering, with more assistance in Sport mode, has actually helped, eliminating some of the unnecessary heft that was there before.

The joy of the Kia is in the nuances lost on more overt alternatives. The brake pedal has great feel, the damping is assured, the limited-slip diff is decisive and the new tyres have improved grip without upsetting the balance. 'Cohesive' isn't a sexy word when it comes to assessing cars, but it is a valuable one, and that's exactly how the Stinger feels. Every dynamic facet appears to work in near perfect harmony with every other; the steering rate of response chimes with the front end, available traction is nicely matched with torque, and the not inconsiderable weight feels well managed between front and rear. The end result is a really satisfying car to drive at all speeds - sometimes lacking an attention grabbing feature is no bad thing.



Consequently, it seems surprising that more Stingers haven't been sold, even allowing for badge prejudice. Sadly, it's the powertrain that might have sealed its fate. While the 3.3-litre twin-turbo is plenty fast enough, and six faintly rasping cylinders will always be preferable to four, official scores of 28mpg and 229g/km do the Kia no favours as either a private or company car purchase. They're the same specs as a 510hp BMW M3 Competition, put it that way. Further down the 3 Series range, an M340i is far more efficient, keener to rev and paired with a sharper gearbox. If not the Stinger's undoing, the 3.3-litre V6 engine is not its strongest suit by some distance.

Which is a shame, because as a driver's car the Stinger is finely honed and deeply impressive, proof that flagships don't need drift modes or circuit packs or wild exhausts to engage a thoughtful person behind the wheel. With its new equipment and design, too, it's a more compelling overall package than ever, at just £2k more than its 2017 launch price. If you can afford to run it and don't mind telling the neighbours how your Kia is better than their Audi - send them our way, if needed - then the Stinger promises to be fine company for many, many years to come, not least because of Kia's leading seven-year warranty (did we just give some genuine consumer advice?) At which time the used ones should be centre of attention in whatever Bargain Barges volume we're onto by then...


SPECIFICATION | KIA STINGER GT-S

Engine: 3,342cc, twin-turbo V6
Transmission: Eight-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 365@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 376@1,300-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 4.7 seconds
Top speed: 168mph
Weight: 1,780kg
MPG: 28 (WLTP)
CO2: 229g/km (WLTP)
Price: £42,595 (price as standard; price as tested £43,270 comprised of Hi-Chroma Red paint for £675)









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the_hood

Original Poster:

777 posts

223 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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I might be in the minority, but something about the styling looks a little awkward especially around the rear.

Lotusgav

168 posts

188 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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I’ve been out in a neighbour‘s car. Must be the performance bargain of the decade. Goes like the clappers, has every toy you’ll ever need, long warranty, looks ok, get kids and dog in! The hatchback sells it over the bmw for me.

Although I went second hand and got a Boxster and a Fabia estate to do similar for the same money in the end...

sidesauce

2,967 posts

247 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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the_hood said:
I might be in the minority, but something about the styling looks a little awkward especially around the rear.
You might be but I agree with you - too much metal at the back makes the rear wheels look tiny.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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There’s one of these one the estate where I live, same colour, ugly as sin, just not a coherent design at all. To my eyes it’s bulbous and ungainly in the same was the first panamera is

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Thunk these are stunning, on my future car list...in about ten years!!

ess

801 posts

207 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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sidesauce said:
You might be but I agree with you - too much metal at the back makes the rear wheels look tiny.
Similar visual effect with the Alfa Guilia. Resulting in 19" wheels looking like 17".
Which is a good thing in my eyes.
I like small wheels.

S


Craikeybaby

12,088 posts

254 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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It seems like Kia have made a great car, but I bet the car buying public won’t be able to see past the badge.

kambites

71,458 posts

250 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Craikeybaby said:
It seems like Kia have made a great car, but I bet the car buying public won’t be able to see past the badge.
In the UK, no they wont. There are plenty of other markets which aren't as badge obsesses though.

pycraft

1,429 posts

213 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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ess said:
sidesauce said:
You might be but I agree with you - too much metal at the back makes the rear wheels look tiny.
Similar visual effect with the Alfa Guilia. Resulting in 19" wheels looking like 17".
Which is a good thing in my eyes.
I like small wheels.

S
The problem is. it's only the back wheels that look tiny. Much smaller than the fronts, which just looks odd. The just-retired XJ also had this issue, as do many others. I believe that in ye olden days designers used that "coke bottle" kink to avoid this and add visual mass to the rear wheel, but now unfortunately most don't bother.

kambites

71,458 posts

250 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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pycraft said:
The problem is. it's only the back wheels that look tiny. Much smaller than the fronts, which just looks odd. The just-retired XJ also had this issue, as do many others. I believe that in ye olden days designers used that "coke bottle" kink to avoid this and add visual mass to the rear wheel, but now unfortunately most don't bother.
I think the lack of a quarterlight behind the rear doors is a large part of the problem there. It has an awful lot of metal in the C-pillar.

Dracoro

9,025 posts

274 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Bought myself one just a few days ago (used one).
Really is a great car, with everything standard unlike the Germans (which are a bit too obvious choices) that you have to spend thousands on options. A car that also looks better in flesh too.

One key thing for me was a hatchback (didn’t really want an estate) so I can bung my bike in the back etc. There aren’t that many larger performance hatchbacks around, plenty of saloons/estates but that’s a difference market. Most the 4 door saloons aren’t hatchbacks.

Audi S5/S7 Sportback, BMW 4 GC, Kia Stinger - can’t think of any others?

mcelliott

10,485 posts

210 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Handsome looking car, a zillion times better looking than the dogste served up by Audi or BMW.

CarlosSainz100

721 posts

149 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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I think these look great and they're definitely in my shortlist for my next car, the mpg might be an issue.

Any owners want to let me know what their real life mpg is please in mixed conditions?

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

263 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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It all sounds very nice but a bit boring? Perhaps a 340i with some Birds tweaks is the way forward if you like driving?

pw_ninja

63 posts

88 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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1.7.8.0.

AJB88

15,737 posts

200 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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anonymous said:
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Same here

sidesauce

2,967 posts

247 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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pycraft said:
ess said:
sidesauce said:
You might be but I agree with you - too much metal at the back makes the rear wheels look tiny.
Similar visual effect with the Alfa Guilia. Resulting in 19" wheels looking like 17".
Which is a good thing in my eyes.
I like small wheels.

S
The problem is. it's only the back wheels that look tiny. Much smaller than the fronts, which just looks odd. The just-retired XJ also had this issue, as do many others. I believe that in ye olden days designers used that "coke bottle" kink to avoid this and add visual mass to the rear wheel, but now unfortunately most don't bother.
Yes - small wheels aren't in themselves a bad thing but the proportions in this instance are weirdly disproportionate between the front and rear wheels and don't look good at all. The Alfa, in contrast, has a steeper rake to its rear screen than the Kia (obviously, being a saloon and not a hatchback) so it doesn't suffer from this problem quite as badly.

kambites said:
I think the lack of a quarterlight behind the rear doors is a large part of the problem there. It has an awful lot of metal in the C-pillar.
I think you've nailed it - that's exactly why it looks so strange!

Dracoro

9,025 posts

274 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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sidesauce said:
kambites said:
I think the lack of a quarterlight behind the rear doors is a large part of the problem there. It has an awful lot of metal in the C-pillar.
I think you've nailed it - that's exactly why it looks so strange!
That gives is more a coupe than saloon look I think.

Aston Martin Rapide has similar feature.

A5/BMW 4 GC has glass but that makes them look more like a slightly different A4/3 series rather than a "coupe" style.

At the end of the day, it's just styling and that's all personal preference.

Dave Hedgehog

16,317 posts

233 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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a performance bargain with RS/M/AMG equivalents now sitting around the 70k mark, and a better warranty


Dracoro

9,025 posts

274 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Dave Hedgehog said:
a performance bargain with RS/M/AMG equivalents now sitting around the 70k mark, and a better warranty
It's more an S/M440/lesser-amg performance level, but still significantly cheaper, esp as non-one buys a standard Audi/BMW/Merc and has to option it up.

The warranty is a big thing, esp for used ones, I've bought a 3 yr old one and still have 4 years warranty on it....