RE: Reality bites: the plug-in EV grant returns to UK

RE: Reality bites: the plug-in EV grant returns to UK

Tuesday 15th July

Reality bites: the plug-in EV grant returns to UK

£650m Electric Car Grant announced alongside additional funding for charging infrastructure 


A new Electric Car Grant has been confirmed by the UK Government, which will reduce the price of an eligible EV by up to £3,750. It will apply to cars priced up to £37,000, with the discount available from this Wednesday (July 16th) and running until the 2028/2029 financial year. 

It follows the recent ZEV Mandate consultation, where the Government sat down with industry folk to discuss the hurdles impacting EV ownership. Unsurprisingly, the initial outlay was cited as a significant obstacle; even with more affordable EVs out there than ever, they too often look like an expensive alternative for retail buyers. Fleet sales can’t prop up the numbers indefinitely. That the mandate itself, which this year requires 28 per cent of all new cars sold in the UK to be electric or face fines, isn’t being met - around a quarter of new car sales are electric - must have helped the decision. 

Sue Robinson, Chief Executive of the National Franchised Dealers Association (NFDA), commented: “NFDA welcomes the Government’s action to boost the electric vehicle market. We have continuously called for urgent measures to incentivise EV uptake, including improving charging infrastructure and providing financial incentives such as the former plug-in grant.” 

The Electric Car Grant will come in alongside the infrastructure improvements announced over the weekend. That’s a £63m package, with £25m allocated to local authorities for improving the at-home charging experience for those without a driveway. Cables are going to be run under pavements (so get ready for the roadworks) which, in time, ought to mean that homes can be connected to cars even if you didn’t get the space right outside. This sounds particularly advantageous for those living in urban low-emission zones who are considering the change. 

The new fund aims to increase the amount of public chargers in the UK by 100,000 - up from 82,000 currently. Likely just as significantly, daft though it may sound when written down because it’s so simple, major road signage will change to show where charging hubs are nearby. While navigation apps have made the job of seeking out power easier, a physical sign remains quite reassuring. The official press release says that the number of hubs has doubled since the start of 2023, and they’re now going to be signposted from major A roads for the first time.

Speaking of the £63m package (so before the Electric Car Grant confirmation), Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander said: “We are making it easier and cheaper to own an electric vehicle. We know access to charging is a barrier for people thinking of making the switch, so we are tackling that head-on so that everyone - whether or not they have a driveway - can access the benefits of going electric.” Expect to hear much more about the infrastructure plans and the subsidies going forward. For those eyeing up a new EV runaround, be it Alpine A290 or Abarth 600e, it looks like being the best time in a while. You wouldn't bet against a couple of manufacturer-sponsored discounts to bring models under that £37k threshold, for example. It could well help secondhand sales, too, if more chargers are popping up. There are almost 12,000 in the PH classifieds, for reference...


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damienm

Original Poster:

17 posts

207 months

Monday 14th July
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I remember filling in a consultation on this and thinking they are going to ignore all be ZEV anyway and thought I was wasting my time. Or perhaps I'm making incorrect assumptions and most people who filled it in were backing an EV only system.

Regardless a sub £37k limit feels to me like its going to mostly go towards Chinese EV manufacturers. Not many of the European, Japanese or Korean models would be under that mark I suspect other than their smallest cars.

To be clear I'm not anti EV, I just think there are more ways to skin a cat. That said I like the look at the 5 and that's well under the cap.

Edited by damienm on Monday 14th July 23:18

cerb4.5lee

37,389 posts

195 months

Monday 14th July
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Brilliant, I've been looking forward to getting an EV for years, and now I can again. hehe

Cold

16,030 posts

105 months

Tuesday 15th July
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More taxpayers money being given to private companies to fund luxury purchases.

Water Fairy

6,151 posts

170 months

Tuesday 15th July
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cerb4.5lee said:
Brilliant, I've been looking forward to getting an EV for years, and now I can again. hehe
Oh Lee you're a card!

Seriously though what difference will 'up to' £3750 make in the real world?

I don't know for sure of course but my guess would be EV sales need encouraging because people still have anxiety over depreciation and charging at home when they don't have off road parking.

Plus of course the writing is on the wall now and folk know that owning and running such vehicles will slowly become more expensive as the herberts in Westminster try to recoup revenue lost from fossil fuel tax.


cptsideways

13,728 posts

267 months

Tuesday 15th July
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Might have thought this could be private buyers only, no doubt it won't.

ChocolateFrog

31,983 posts

188 months

Tuesday 15th July
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Great news.

That'll wind some people off the clock, which is amusing in itself.

cerb4.5lee

37,389 posts

195 months

Tuesday 15th July
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Water Fairy said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Brilliant, I've been looking forward to getting an EV for years, and now I can again. hehe
Oh Lee you're a card!
biggrin
beer

sjg

7,600 posts

280 months

Tuesday 15th July
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damienm said:
Regardless a sub £37k limit feels to me like its going to mostly go towards Chinese EV manufacturers. Not many of the European, Japanese or Korean models would be under that mark I suspect other than their smallest cars.
There's loads, but as with last time there's plenty of scope for tweaking to hit that. The Renault Scenic starts at £37120 for example. You can already get in a Kona, Niro, EV3 and EV4, Megane, ID3, Elroq and others under this threshold.

PT1984

2,881 posts

198 months

Tuesday 15th July
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How much off a Dacia Spring that they are kicking out at £11k new?

plfrench

3,594 posts

283 months

Tuesday 15th July
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Renault must be rubbing their hands! If the full £3,750 grant is available, that would bring the starting price of a 5 down to just over £19k.

That 28% headline figure will be even more of a walk in the park for them now.

With long-term signs of intent like this scheme, I wonder if people will still persist in thinking the EV transition is just a flash in the pan? It’ll be too late for the next government to unpick the momentum at the next election should they want to try.

griffsomething

322 posts

176 months

Tuesday 15th July
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This the best use of our taxes?

HTP99

24,066 posts

155 months

Tuesday 15th July
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I wonder how this will affect cars that are already on order, as a group we have a shed load of Renault 5's on order, could be some interesting conversations cropping up.

Also A290, most will be eligible for this, it's a fun car, this kind of thing doesn't sit well with me.

I wonder also if cars that fit into the criteria will magically have subtle price increases, but not high enough to put them over the threshold.

One also hopes that claiming this grant is a dam sight easier and isn't designed to trip a dealer up, than when we had an EV grant previously.

Ziplobb

1,451 posts

299 months

Tuesday 15th July
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griffsomething said:
This the best use of our taxes?
no paying off the country's debt would be a better start - effectively they are increasing the national debt to bribe people into buying EVs.

HTP99

24,066 posts

155 months

Tuesday 15th July
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plfrench said:
Renault must be rubbing their hands! If the full £3,750 grant is available, that would bring the starting price of a 5 down to just over £19k.

That 28% headline figure will be even more of a walk in the park for them now.

With long-term signs of intent like this scheme, I wonder if people will still persist in thinking the EV transition is just a flash in the pan? It ll be too late for the next government to unpick the momentum at the next election should they want to try.
Not really as they can't build them quick enough as it is, it'll make no difference to Renault.

plfrench

3,594 posts

283 months

Tuesday 15th July
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HTP99 said:
Not really as they can't build them quick enough as it is, it'll make no difference to Renault.
Ah, so list price increase inbound wink

HTP99

24,066 posts

155 months

Tuesday 15th July
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plfrench said:
HTP99 said:
Not really as they can't build them quick enough as it is, it'll make no difference to Renault.
Ah, so list price increase inbound wink
Yes lol.

This grant will effectively make it cheaper to by the cars that actually do sell well already, I guess some manufacturers will re jig pricing if their cars just fall out of this £37500 bracket and I'm sure some manufacturers will increase their pricing if they are well within it.

I remember when the original grant was a thing and over the years the grant amount decreased from originally £5000 down to nothing, one of the decreases Renault just dropped the price of the ZOE inline with it, it just made a mockery of it.

redroadster

1,862 posts

247 months

Tuesday 15th July
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If it can be used as the deposit for finance deals this will really make the monthly figures far more appealing too.

Gecko1978

11,423 posts

172 months

Tuesday 15th July
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The 3750 will apply to the most expensive so in essence is 10% off still a good deal but I suspect the £650m might be used up quickly by owners of EVs already rather than more new customers leaving more unsold used cars (jaguar ipace looking at you). In the end maybe not the silver bullet the government hoped for. Perhaps it should have been £650 spent on infrastructure rather than discounts on cars.

Big Nanas

2,520 posts

99 months

Tuesday 15th July
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Interesting in the details:

"discounts will range between £1,500 and £3,750" "with the most environmentally friendly vehicles seeing the biggest reductions"

But that's not been explained just yet.

evojam

705 posts

175 months

Tuesday 15th July
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Let the mass digging up of UK pavements begin,lets see how that one pans out....HS2 anyone?rofl