gt3 ...138 cars for sale !!!!
Discussion
Tony 1234 said:
why do the remoners on here freely accept an unelected body that haven’t been able to have their accounts signed off for many, many years due to fraud want to go forward with the EU making our laws etc?
I’m sure after we leave other nations will follow in time and that’s what scares Barnier et all.
None of this is true.I’m sure after we leave other nations will follow in time and that’s what scares Barnier et all.
anonymous said:
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14 min response, impressive CM. Different time zone.I’m not saying the ability to negotiate with countries less “enlightened” than ourselves will ever be a walk in the park, but surely having the opportunity to negotiate our own trade deals, by ourselves, rather than handicapped as a socialist collective block can only be seen as a benefit? And how really different actually are these new cultural and political allies?
The UK has always been a global trading power, and I’ve always thought it a tragedy to handicap that entrepreneurial spirit by tethering it to a block with drastically different aims. We can look at Singapore or Hong Kong as an example, but in truth undercutting the fat, bloated welfare state, and high unemployment of old European uncompetitive states like France will not be hard.
Protectionism never works, and what the EU fails to recognise is that the global economy is now radically different to 1973. It’s a new age, either you get on board or you don’t, but the rewards are always there. Whether the status quo survives of course is a different matter. But even that is nothing new.
In short, there is too much doom and gloom about, regarding possibly one of the greatest opportunities we’ll have in our lifetimes, as I’ve already said. But either you embrace them or you don’t, either you’re a glass is half full person or you aren’t. In the past, the UK was always competitive. In the present however we will see, but perhaps the “status quo” wasn’t all it was cracked up to be.
Dammit said:
Can't have Norway without Freedom of Movement - we could have a Canada style FTA if we could get the DUP to agree to an Irish Sea border.
This would be the main concession from us. Maybe (but unlikely) we could get a concession e.g. skills quotas. Europe in general has an 'immigration problem' and the EU can see here with Brexit what happens as a consequence.Even if we have no-deal, we will probably allow many people in from all over the world anyway so immigration will still be a 'problem'.
Dammit said:
Chequers was never viable.
It's a starting point in negotiation. We ask for things we know we can't get, so that we hopefully compromise on what we do want.Additionally it gets May through to November without facing a leadership battle.
anonymous said:
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As above, I think she is just trying to get through to November. The opportunity for a Brexiteer to lead the party in negotiations has now passed.So perhaps she will call their bluff. The last thing they want is a general election as they could lose all their influence immediately.
Labour will likely vote against any deal as part of their strategy to get a general election. So the Brexiteers will have to decide between voting against and basically triggering a general election and losing influence, or sucking it up and accepting the compromise. Of course she will then be toppled, but she knows that already.
Back on topic......
I actually dont care about GT3 prices/Values , as I bought mine ( a 2004 996.2 ) 6 years ago with 28,000 miles on the clock when a really good one was 30k mine was (is) really good, just right place right time and paid less than 20k i didnt buy it to make money, I just thought wow i can afford a GT3..
I actually dont care about GT3 prices/Values , as I bought mine ( a 2004 996.2 ) 6 years ago with 28,000 miles on the clock when a really good one was 30k mine was (is) really good, just right place right time and paid less than 20k i didnt buy it to make money, I just thought wow i can afford a GT3..
Schmed said:
14 min response, impressive CM. Different time zone.
I’m not saying the ability to negotiate with countries less “enlightened” than ourselves will ever be a walk in the park, but surely having the opportunity to negotiate our own trade deals, by ourselves, rather than handicapped as a socialist collective block can only be seen as a benefit? And how really different actually are these new cultural and political allies?
The UK has always been a global trading power, and I’ve always thought it a tragedy to handicap that entrepreneurial spirit by tethering it to a block with drastically different aims. We can look at Singapore or Hong Kong as an example, but in truth undercutting the fat, bloated welfare state, and high unemployment of old European uncompetitive states like France will not be hard.
Protectionism never works, and what the EU fails to recognise is that the global economy is now radically different to 1973. It’s a new age, either you get on board or you don’t, but the rewards are always there. Whether the status quo survives of course is a different matter. But even that is nothing new.
In short, there is too much doom and gloom about, regarding possibly one of the greatest opportunities we’ll have in our lifetimes, as I’ve already said. But either you embrace them or you don’t, either you’re a glass is half full person or you aren’t. In the past, the UK was always competitive. In the present however we will see, but perhaps the “status quo” wasn’t all it was cracked up to be.
This post pretty much echoes my opinion on Brexit word for word.I’m not saying the ability to negotiate with countries less “enlightened” than ourselves will ever be a walk in the park, but surely having the opportunity to negotiate our own trade deals, by ourselves, rather than handicapped as a socialist collective block can only be seen as a benefit? And how really different actually are these new cultural and political allies?
The UK has always been a global trading power, and I’ve always thought it a tragedy to handicap that entrepreneurial spirit by tethering it to a block with drastically different aims. We can look at Singapore or Hong Kong as an example, but in truth undercutting the fat, bloated welfare state, and high unemployment of old European uncompetitive states like France will not be hard.
Protectionism never works, and what the EU fails to recognise is that the global economy is now radically different to 1973. It’s a new age, either you get on board or you don’t, but the rewards are always there. Whether the status quo survives of course is a different matter. But even that is nothing new.
In short, there is too much doom and gloom about, regarding possibly one of the greatest opportunities we’ll have in our lifetimes, as I’ve already said. But either you embrace them or you don’t, either you’re a glass is half full person or you aren’t. In the past, the UK was always competitive. In the present however we will see, but perhaps the “status quo” wasn’t all it was cracked up to be.
Saves me a lot of having to respond to some on here.Whether people like it or not the UK will continue in a post Brexit world. As things stood being in the EU, the UK was getting weaker and less competitive.The British people have become the second fattest and least productive in Europe. Since we are 250% more densely populated than France with net migration of over 400k annually the status quo was not even a viable option IMO.
To quote Albert Einstein's definition of stupidity..' Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result each time'.
The EU is run by over numerous,over paid unelected bureaucrats who despise change and live in the past..Einstein would laugh his head off at the way the EU was being run..
The Euro also needs to be banished to the history books as the poorer Mediterranean countries needs a weaker currency compared to an industrial powerhouse like Germany to be able to compete.
I voted out and if there was a second referendum, i'd still vote for Brexit as i want change..
It's obvious no-one know how things will go. However there's no doubt it's a once in a generation event.
Best case scenario is it breezes through without us noticing much change, worst case it puts the breaks on a fair proportion of our working lives..
Anyone with a business has to be at least proceeding with caution at this point. It's proceeding in a perception of limbo for a protracted period (ie years) is where the problems start-confidence or lack of it.
I agree there's safer places for cash than in Porsches at the minute, but hey, it's a free world?
Best case scenario is it breezes through without us noticing much change, worst case it puts the breaks on a fair proportion of our working lives..
Anyone with a business has to be at least proceeding with caution at this point. It's proceeding in a perception of limbo for a protracted period (ie years) is where the problems start-confidence or lack of it.
I agree there's safer places for cash than in Porsches at the minute, but hey, it's a free world?
Quote from Mr. GT4RS
“ Depends how you plan it, rates can be had for 1.8% a PCP is over 7% with Porsche and could be 10 or even more on 2nd hand cars.
If you have a repayment plan to cover payments off the remortgage for 5 years it's much cheaper way to fund a car over a PCP.
you could easy save £15k even £20k+ lending the money to yourself.
Saving you circa 6% PA and no one is making that on renting houses or investments atm so risk free 6% saving”
Indeed GT4RS...
That was my rationale. As we seem to agree most cars out there are on finance... I’ve never had a car on finance before, as I wouldn’t pay those sort of interest rates .... 6/ 7 % as it may need a ballon at the end which isn’t worth paying and would end up in the auction! Incidentally what did the recently auctioned cars raise ?
I know that a fixed rate mortgage at a low rate will hardly affect my beer money for the month... I can also pay it off in 3 years without worrying, and still go skiing a few times... The total mortgage payment will only be about 15% net income and will be fixed...
Plenty of equity in house and am single.
Could just save up for 3 years and buy one cash, but then there’s another 3 years gone...
If brexit does strike, then all the track plays will be really cheap too!
Did ya’ll see that guy who unfortunately hit the wall at zandvort - The agony of watching that car dragged off the circuit - heartbreaking ! Maybe, just maybe it’s wurf getting a low mileage ( on the mortgage) at overs that hasn’t been crashed , before I hit 50! Otherwise I’ll start wanting an Aston Martin or something soft like that .....
“ Depends how you plan it, rates can be had for 1.8% a PCP is over 7% with Porsche and could be 10 or even more on 2nd hand cars.
If you have a repayment plan to cover payments off the remortgage for 5 years it's much cheaper way to fund a car over a PCP.
you could easy save £15k even £20k+ lending the money to yourself.
Saving you circa 6% PA and no one is making that on renting houses or investments atm so risk free 6% saving”
Indeed GT4RS...
That was my rationale. As we seem to agree most cars out there are on finance... I’ve never had a car on finance before, as I wouldn’t pay those sort of interest rates .... 6/ 7 % as it may need a ballon at the end which isn’t worth paying and would end up in the auction! Incidentally what did the recently auctioned cars raise ?
I know that a fixed rate mortgage at a low rate will hardly affect my beer money for the month... I can also pay it off in 3 years without worrying, and still go skiing a few times... The total mortgage payment will only be about 15% net income and will be fixed...
Plenty of equity in house and am single.
Could just save up for 3 years and buy one cash, but then there’s another 3 years gone...
If brexit does strike, then all the track plays will be really cheap too!
Did ya’ll see that guy who unfortunately hit the wall at zandvort - The agony of watching that car dragged off the circuit - heartbreaking ! Maybe, just maybe it’s wurf getting a low mileage ( on the mortgage) at overs that hasn’t been crashed , before I hit 50! Otherwise I’ll start wanting an Aston Martin or something soft like that .....
amongst all these political discussions here's a pic of my "paid over the odds" GT3 picked up last week.
Absolutely love it, 4th 911 but by far the best. This is the one I always wanted. Who knows what's round the corner. Maybe I paid too much, maybe I'll lose some money but right now it's worth it!!!!
ags11 said:
It's obvious no-one know how things will go.
I agree there's safer places for cash than in Porsches at the minute, but hey, it's a free world?
But how bad is really likely to be. Normal depreciation like say a McLaren? It hasn’t stopped McLaren growing exponentially throughout the whole Porsche bubble period with buyers fully aware of the impending loss......I agree there's safer places for cash than in Porsches at the minute, but hey, it's a free world?
There’s clearly huge risk in this sector right now but the GT3 will remain at the lowest end.
Well played!! I love it Red too ! That was the colour I coveted when looking for a 996 Gt3 , but couldn’t find one at the time (2007)... Still never owned a Porsche and the years are rattling by.... you must be ‘totally stoked’ ! But yes, in agreement, yer don’t know what’s round the corner..
My uncle had a ‘MLC’ at about 50 and bought a Jag XP’s v12 in 1989...... He copped it last year...
Any rate , I’ve wanted a Porsche since my mates dad dropped him round in 1980 (?)for a play date when I lived up in Cheshire. He had a black 911 with a mahoosive spoiler ! Wilmslow and Knutsford both had dealerships then I think....
But still it’d be my first Porsche....
Have many others out there bought a GT3 as their first decent sports car/ Porsche ?
My uncle had a ‘MLC’ at about 50 and bought a Jag XP’s v12 in 1989...... He copped it last year...
Any rate , I’ve wanted a Porsche since my mates dad dropped him round in 1980 (?)for a play date when I lived up in Cheshire. He had a black 911 with a mahoosive spoiler ! Wilmslow and Knutsford both had dealerships then I think....
But still it’d be my first Porsche....
Have many others out there bought a GT3 as their first decent sports car/ Porsche ?
anonymous said:
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You'd hope that May had people in her team who could negotiate hard with the EU, and out-manoeuvre any domestic obstacles. And that Chequers is a stage in a masterplan.anonymous said:
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A majority of MPs are in favour of remain. The population is split more evenly. The Brexiteers have the mandate. The problem is everything is presented in black and white, when clearly both sides need to have their voices heard and respected, and both will need to compromise on the more extreme ideas a little.Norway (with a few customizations) surely has to be the end goal as it appears to give both sides in the UK, and the EU, most of what they want.
anonymous said:
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If there is no deal then the extreme Brexiteers will get what they want right at the end. But IIRC even Boris doesn't want a no deal falling back onto WTO rules.---
Anyway, hopefully it will all get resolved soon and some more of those 138 cars will get snapped up and enjoyed.
Dammit said:
Tony 1234 said:
why do the remoners on here freely accept an unelected body that haven’t been able to have their accounts signed off for many, many years due to fraud want to go forward with the EU making our laws etc?
I’m sure after we leave other nations will follow in time and that’s what scares Barnier et all.
None of this is true.I’m sure after we leave other nations will follow in time and that’s what scares Barnier et all.
Simonl72 said:
amongst all these political discussions here's a pic of my "paid over the odds" GT3 picked up last week.
Absolutely love it, 4th 911 but by far the best. This is the one I always wanted. Who knows what's round the corner. Maybe I paid too much, maybe I'll lose some money but right now it's worth it!!!!
As for whats around the corner:
The Highway Code said:
Drive at a speed that will allow you to stop well within the distance you can see to be clear
Anyway, aside from Brexit, the EU has manifold issues, not least the fact the Italians appear to be pushing the spending envelope:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-27...
Digga said:
Anyway, aside from Brexit, the EU has manifold issues, not least the fact the Italians appear to be pushing the spending envelope:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-27...
Yeah Italian bond market having a good day too..amazing how France has a budget deficit of 2.6%(Italy aiming for 2.4%) and that's seems to be acceptable to investors!!..the way thing are going Lhd Gt3's will have no bid as Europe collapses and Rhd Uk cars will be super bid..https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-27...
kayc said:
Digga said:
Anyway, aside from Brexit, the EU has manifold issues, not least the fact the Italians appear to be pushing the spending envelope:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-27...
Yeah Italian bond market having a good day too..amazing how France has a budget deficit of 2.6%(Italy aiming for 2.4%) and that's seems to be acceptable to investors!!..the way thing are going Lhd Gt3's will have no bid as Europe collapses and Rhd Uk cars will be super bid..https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-27...
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