EVs... no one wants them!
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romft123 said:
The clue was in his sentence!! Try reading it again!
Aaaah see, will look for the cryptic message. Read it again as you instructed and still can't see any words mentioning the average time he spent charging at a charger.
Assuming the smugness is because he has a home charger and doesn't use public chargers? Or doesn't own an EV.
Edited by MightyBadger on Wednesday 29th May 12:37
Edited by MightyBadger on Wednesday 29th May 12:55
Edited by MightyBadger on Wednesday 29th May 12:56
Shambler said:
Got given a Vauxhall Mokka E hire car to get from Aberdeen to Edinburgh. Car stated 169 miles range with 100% battery. No problem I thought as Edinburgh was 123 miles. Put the car in eco mode, air con off and set the cruise control to 70mph. By the time I reached Dundee which is 73 miles it showed it had 23 miles range left. Utter piece of crap, it’s cars like this that give electric cars a bad name.
It is poor. You would have got far more range at 60mph, I'd suggest. Horses for courses though, and they shouldn't be hiring out cars with this kind of capability if the customer is going to be doing more than potter about locally.
CivicDuties said:
It is poor. You would have got far more range at 60mph, I'd suggest.
Horses for courses though, and they shouldn't be hiring out cars with this kind of capability if the customer is going to be doing more than potter about locally.
Which is probably what it did in the previous trip/hire as that's how it expected to do the range it statedHorses for courses though, and they shouldn't be hiring out cars with this kind of capability if the customer is going to be doing more than potter about locally.
Shambler said:
Got given a Vauxhall Mokka E hire car to get from Aberdeen to Edinburgh. Car stated 169 miles range with 100% battery. No problem I thought as Edinburgh was 123 miles. Put the car in eco mode, air con off and set the cruise control to 70mph. By the time I reached Dundee which is 73 miles it showed it had 23 miles range left. Utter piece of crap, it’s cars like this that give electric cars a bad name.
Wait for it…..”nobody needs to drive further than 73 miles”….KingGary said:
Shambler said:
Got given a Vauxhall Mokka E hire car to get from Aberdeen to Edinburgh. Car stated 169 miles range with 100% battery. No problem I thought as Edinburgh was 123 miles. Put the car in eco mode, air con off and set the cruise control to 70mph. By the time I reached Dundee which is 73 miles it showed it had 23 miles range left. Utter piece of crap, it’s cars like this that give electric cars a bad name.
Wait for it…..”nobody needs to drive further than 73 miles”….MightyBadger said:
Aaaah see, will look for the crptic message.
Read it again as you instructed and still can't see any words mentioning the average time he spent charging at a charger charging..
Assuming the smugness is because he has a home charger and doesn't use public chargers? Or doesn't own an EV.
Surely the time spent charging is only relevant if you sit and wait for it to charge, and why would anyone do that? My dishwasher takes way longer to wash a load of dishes than I could do it by hand, but I don't sit and watch it so why would I care how long it takes so long as it's ready by the time I next want to cook? Read it again as you instructed and still can't see any words mentioning the average time he spent charging at a charger charging..
Assuming the smugness is because he has a home charger and doesn't use public chargers? Or doesn't own an EV.
When I had to use a public fast charger in a rented Polestar it took me about 30 seconds to plug it in and then I went in to Tesco do some shopping while it charged.
RizzoTheRat said:
Surely the time spent charging is only relevant if you sit and wait for it to charge, and why would anyone do that? My dishwasher takes way longer to wash a load of dishes than I could do it by hand, but I don't sit and watch it so why would I care how long it takes so long as it's ready by the time I next want to cook?
When I had to use a public fast charger in a rented Polestar it took me about 30 seconds to plug it in and then I went in to Tesco do some shopping while it charged.
Not sure what you are trying to get at there, was just curious what the average 'EV' charge time is at a petrol station/public charge point.When I had to use a public fast charger in a rented Polestar it took me about 30 seconds to plug it in and then I went in to Tesco do some shopping while it charged.
Not everyone wants to go shopping whilst they are 'charging up'. How long did you have to go shopping for until you could continue driving?
Tried orderong a part for a Tesla today, it seems I cannot ring and speak to someone but need to create an account ? why ..... Granted this is a Tesla problem not so much of an EV problem, but i already disliked Teslas and this has just given me another reason to dislike them even more.
MightyBadger said:
Not sure what you are trying to get at there, was just curious what the average 'EV' charge time is at a petrol station/public charge point.
Not everyone wants to go shopping whilst they are 'charging up'. How long did you have to go shopping for until you could continue driving?
Arguing with people on the internet can be done from just about anywhere these days, apart from maybe whilst driving. Not everyone wants to go shopping whilst they are 'charging up'. How long did you have to go shopping for until you could continue driving?
You don't have to wait until you are home or at your destination.
You could post on here about your surprise at how good the car is to drive, how smooth and comfortable it is. Those sorts of things.
RizzoTheRat said:
MightyBadger said:
Aaaah see, will look for the crptic message.
Read it again as you instructed and still can't see any words mentioning the average time he spent charging at a charger charging..
Assuming the smugness is because he has a home charger and doesn't use public chargers? Or doesn't own an EV.
Surely the time spent charging is only relevant if you sit and wait for it to charge, and why would anyone do that? My dishwasher takes way longer to wash a load of dishes than I could do it by hand, but I don't sit and watch it so why would I care how long it takes so long as it's ready by the time I next want to cook? Read it again as you instructed and still can't see any words mentioning the average time he spent charging at a charger charging..
Assuming the smugness is because he has a home charger and doesn't use public chargers? Or doesn't own an EV.
When I had to use a public fast charger in a rented Polestar it took me about 30 seconds to plug it in and then I went in to Tesco do some shopping while it charged.
Ive not been shopping since about 2018. Ive no desire to start now.
Is it mandatory when public charging? I see shopping gets mentioned often in this context.
monkfish1 said:
RizzoTheRat said:
MightyBadger said:
Aaaah see, will look for the crptic message.
Read it again as you instructed and still can't see any words mentioning the average time he spent charging at a charger charging..
Assuming the smugness is because he has a home charger and doesn't use public chargers? Or doesn't own an EV.
Surely the time spent charging is only relevant if you sit and wait for it to charge, and why would anyone do that? My dishwasher takes way longer to wash a load of dishes than I could do it by hand, but I don't sit and watch it so why would I care how long it takes so long as it's ready by the time I next want to cook? Read it again as you instructed and still can't see any words mentioning the average time he spent charging at a charger charging..
Assuming the smugness is because he has a home charger and doesn't use public chargers? Or doesn't own an EV.
When I had to use a public fast charger in a rented Polestar it took me about 30 seconds to plug it in and then I went in to Tesco do some shopping while it charged.
Ive not been shopping since about 2018. Ive no desire to start now.
Is it mandatory when public charging? I see shopping gets mentioned often in this context.
MightyBadger said:
romft123 said:
Lots of fore head slapping going on after reading that I'm guessing
Or maybe somebody could answer the very basic question?Several replies to my post but not a single straight answer
Asking a question is not argueing lol.
MightyBadger said:
RizzoTheRat said:
Surely the time spent charging is only relevant if you sit and wait for it to charge, and why would anyone do that? My dishwasher takes way longer to wash a load of dishes than I could do it by hand, but I don't sit and watch it so why would I care how long it takes so long as it's ready by the time I next want to cook?
When I had to use a public fast charger in a rented Polestar it took me about 30 seconds to plug it in and then I went in to Tesco do some shopping while it charged.
Not sure what you are trying to get at there, was just curious what the average 'EV' charge time is at a petrol station/public charge point.When I had to use a public fast charger in a rented Polestar it took me about 30 seconds to plug it in and then I went in to Tesco do some shopping while it charged.
Not everyone wants to go shopping whilst they are 'charging up'. How long did you have to go shopping for until you could continue driving?
Every time I fill up my diesel car it doesn't take long, but all of that time is my time as I have to be there. Charging an EV takes longer but you don't have to be there for most of it, so isn't necessarily wasted time. You can charge them while you sleep, while you're at work, while you're walking the dog, while you're doing some shopping, while you're in the gym... In the same way that my dishwasher can do the washing up while I'm sleeping, having a shower, watching TV, etc.
As for how long, my wife was with me so probably about twice as long it would take me to get the ingredients for dinner and bottle of wine if I went shopping on my own
monkfish1 said:
Must do a fair bit of shopping?
I've not been shopping since about 2018. I've no desire to start now.
Is it mandatory when public charging? I see shopping gets mentioned often in this context.
Amazingly lots of people go in to shops to buy things. The vast majority of them don't own electric cars.I've not been shopping since about 2018. I've no desire to start now.
Is it mandatory when public charging? I see shopping gets mentioned often in this context.
RizzoTheRat said:
monkfish1 said:
Must do a fair bit of shopping?
I've not been shopping since about 2018. I've no desire to start now.
Is it mandatory when public charging? I see shopping gets mentioned often in this context.
Amazingly lots of people go in to shops to buy things. The vast majority of them don't own electric cars.I've not been shopping since about 2018. I've no desire to start now.
Is it mandatory when public charging? I see shopping gets mentioned often in this context.
Advances in technology means i no longer "go shopping". The shopping comes to me. Quite why anyone still goes is a bit of a mystery.
monkfish1 said:
It is amazing people go shopping, as opposed to a specific visit for a specific thing, which would only take 5 mins, nowhere near enough to charge ones car.
Advances in technology means i no longer "go shopping". The shopping comes to me. Quite why anyone still goes is a bit of a mystery.
Had that argument with OH. She raised up a few good points. Advances in technology means i no longer "go shopping". The shopping comes to me. Quite why anyone still goes is a bit of a mystery.
(a) Serendipity
(b) Reduced items (2.75 going to 20p)
(c) Ability to choose fresh produce. Don't want dodgy loose carrots and squashed bananas do you...
monkfish1 said:
It is amazing people go shopping, as opposed to a specific visit for a specific thing, which would only take 5 mins, nowhere near enough to charge ones car.
Advances in technology means i no longer "go shopping". The shopping comes to me. Quite why anyone still goes is a bit of a mystery.
I'll generally visit a supermarket for fresh stuff rather than do home delivery for reasons others have put above, but in this particular instance I was in a rental car, on holiday, in a different country to the one I live in. Far easier to go the supermarket than shop online at short notice and get it delivered to the the friends house we were staying at. Advances in technology means i no longer "go shopping". The shopping comes to me. Quite why anyone still goes is a bit of a mystery.
This is is somewhat off topic, however shopping is clearly one of the many many things people do while not in thier cars.
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