EVs... no one wants them!

[ZX10R NIN]

climate-emergency said:

The problem with Electric Cars is that you are not allowed say anything or question them without having the words tin foil and conspiracy theorist associate against you. Electric cars with batteries approaching a tonne charged up with fossil fuel, struggling to get 300 miles range. They all seem to be floundering around driving at 40 too, so much for progress. The cynic in me says because they are basically digital devices nowadays they are much easier to control.. and we have seen at first hand how that's going

There's no problem with electric cars, everyone is very aware of their benefits & limitations, very similar to diesel cars, which are often criticised too.

The simple answer as always is to buy the drivetrain that suits YOUR needs end of. Criticising someone who buys one because it suits them is where the problem is.

Are they the be all & end all answer? Of course they're not but they are a decent alternative for certain usage in the same way a diesel/diesel hybrid drivetrain is a good option for others & a petrol/petrol hybrid covers most bases.

[740EVTORQUES]

KingGary said:

Scrimpton said:

KingGary said:

I find it’s normally the insecure people who accuse others of being insecure. Anyway, it comes down to personal choice and some of us just don’t want an EV yet. This thread is dominated by people wanting to save money, the main reason for driving one, and for many of us, it’s not a priority.

I probably will get one one day, but only when the technology is a bit better.

I'd pay extra to avoid petrol for a day to day wagon. I'd pay double never to have to drive a skanky diesel. The cheapness is a bonus not the main motivation.

You sound like you wear rubber gloves and a PPE mask 365 days of the year.

I paid cash list price for mine and stuck the 911 in the garage for weekends I wanted one so much. It’s really not about saving money, they’re just better the vast majority of the time. You don’t get it because you haven’t tried a decent one with a genuinely open mind I think.

That they save money is nice but it’s not the main reason for getting one, not in my case at least.

[Jk89]

Don’t know much about EV’s as they don’t interest me, but Taycans look good value and extended warranty seems cheap.

Are they a bad EV?

Hard trying to find balanced opinions on EV’s because they are so polarising.

[Scrimpton]

KingGary said:

Scrimpton said:

KingGary said:

I find it’s normally the insecure people who accuse others of being insecure. Anyway, it comes down to personal choice and some of us just don’t want an EV yet. This thread is dominated by people wanting to save money, the main reason for driving one, and for many of us, it’s not a priority.

I probably will get one one day, but only when the technology is a bit better.

I'd pay extra to avoid petrol for a day to day wagon. I'd pay double never to have to drive a skanky diesel. The cheapness is a bonus not the main motivation.

You sound like you wear rubber gloves and a PPE mask 365 days of the year.

You sound like your parents were siblings, I guess we all have our crosses to bear.

[KingGary]

Scrimpton said:

KingGary said:

Scrimpton said:

KingGary said:

I find it’s normally the insecure people who accuse others of being insecure. Anyway, it comes down to personal choice and some of us just don’t want an EV yet. This thread is dominated by people wanting to save money, the main reason for driving one, and for many of us, it’s not a priority.

I probably will get one one day, but only when the technology is a bit better.

I'd pay extra to avoid petrol for a day to day wagon. I'd pay double never to have to drive a skanky diesel. The cheapness is a bonus not the main motivation.

You sound like you wear rubber gloves and a PPE mask 365 days of the year.

You sound like your parents were siblings, I guess we all have our crosses to bear.

I’m sure there’s a spreadsheet somewhere needing your attention

[tamore]

Jk89 said:

Don’t know much about EV’s as they don’t interest me, but Taycans look good value and extended warranty seems cheap.

Are they a bad EV?

Hard trying to find balanced opinions on EV’s because they are so polarising.

shouldn't be hard to bag a decent test drive. make your own mind up. surely better than getting the opinion of internet guys and girls? and you know, the ones who are a bit of both.

[anonymous-user]

Jk89 said:

Don’t know much about EV’s as they don’t interest me, but Taycans look good value and extended warranty seems cheap.

Are they a bad EV?

Hard trying to find balanced opinions on EV’s because they are so polarising.

Friend of mine has a Sport Turismo 4s. Loves the handling. As a used buy they make a lot of sense. For me personally, I think they are a bit too wide for UK roads. If was spending £50k+ on a used Taycan, and I didn't need the more practical Sport Turismo bodyshape, I think I would get the e-tron GT instead as I prefer the looks. But if you wanted to tip a toe into the EV waters, you can get most of the performance (if not the handling) at half the price buying a Model 3 LR and adding Acceleration Boost.

[D4rez]

tamore said:

climate-emergency said:

The problem with Electric Cars is that you are not allowed say anything or question them without having the words tin foil and conspiracy theorist associate against you. Electric cars with batteries approaching a tonne charged up with fossil fuel, struggling to get 300 miles range. They all seem to be floundering around driving at 40 too, so much for progress. The cynic in me says because they are basically digital devices nowadays they are much easier to control.. and we have seen at first hand how that's going

doing well on that bingo card above!

lol instant ban. I don’t know why he keeps trying

[Fastlane]

D4rez said:

lol instant ban. I don’t know why he keeps trying

In all seriousness, I would suggest that he needs some help.

[Dave200]

KingGary said:

Dave200 said:

Some insecure people wear their choice of car like a badge of pride.

Dave200 said:

That won't stop insecure people from inventing reasons why they don't want one.

I find it’s normally the insecure people who accuse others of being insecure. Anyway, it comes down to personal choice and some of us just don’t want an EV yet. This thread is dominated by people wanting to save money, the main reason for driving one, and for many of us, it’s not a priority.

I probably will get one one day, but only when the technology is a bit better.

You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you Gary?

[barryrs]

740EVTORQUES said:

I paid cash list price for mine and stuck the 911 in the garage for weekends I wanted one so much. It’s really not about saving money, they’re just better the vast majority of the time. You don’t get it because you haven’t tried a decent one with a genuinely open mind I think.

That they save money is nice but it’s not the main reason for getting one, not in my case at least.

I didn’t buy mine new but approved used with a £9k deposit contribution and settled after a couple of months.

I didn’t buy it because it was electric or for any cost savings, I bought it because I drove it and really liked it.

Over a year in now and still rate it.

[KingGary]

Dave200 said:

KingGary said:

Dave200 said:

Some insecure people wear their choice of car like a badge of pride.

Dave200 said:

That won't stop insecure people from inventing reasons why they don't want one.

I find it’s normally the insecure people who accuse others of being insecure. Anyway, it comes down to personal choice and some of us just don’t want an EV yet. This thread is dominated by people wanting to save money, the main reason for driving one, and for many of us, it’s not a priority.

I probably will get one one day, but only when the technology is a bit better.

You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you Gary?

I also find it’s simpletons that accuse others of being thick.

[Scrimpton]

Gary repeatedly ignores people telling him that the cheapness is a bonus and the fact they're better is why people buy them. Don't be thick like Gary.

[KingGary]

Scrimpton said:

Gary repeatedly ignores people telling him that the cheapness is a bonus and the fact they're better is why people buy them. Don't be thick like Gary.

Better than what? Only people who say that EVs are
better are the ones who already own/rent them and need their life choices, and love of spreadsheets to be validated by others. Call me names if it makes you feel better, I’d rather be unpopular than boring.

Edited by KingGary on Monday 27th May 19:23

[Monkeylegend]

KingGary said:

I’d rather be unpopular than boring.

Edited by KingGary on Monday 27th May 19:23

The problem is you end up being both

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KingGary said:

Better than what? Only people who say that EVs are
better are the ones who already own/rent them and need their life choices, and love of spreadsheets to be validated by others. Call me names if it makes you feel better, I’d rather be unpopular than boring.

Edited by KingGary on Monday 27th May 19:23

I’d say that all EV owners have been or still are ICE owners so they’re coming from a position of experience.

[romft123]

page3 said:

KingGary said:

Better than what? Only people who say that EVs are
better are the ones who already own/rent them and need their life choices, and love of spreadsheets to be validated by others. Call me names if it makes you feel better, I’d rather be unpopular than boring.

Edited by KingGary on Monday 27th May 19:23

I’d say that all EV owners have been or still are ICE owners so they’re coming from a position of experience.

And that is what some just cant get their MT heads around

[KingGary]

Monkeylegend said:

KingGary said:

I’d rather be unpopular than boring.

Edited by KingGary on Monday 27th May 19:23

The problem is you end up being both

Issue here is it’s just the internet. In the real world nobody cares what either of us thinks

[KingGary]

page3 said:

KingGary said:

Better than what? Only people who say that EVs are
better are the ones who already own/rent them and need their life choices, and love of spreadsheets to be validated by others. Call me names if it makes you feel better, I’d rather be unpopular than boring.

Edited by KingGary on Monday 27th May 19:23

I’d say that all EV owners have been or still are ICE owners so they’re coming from a position of experience.

And authority no doubt, unless you’ve always driven st cars, electrical, ICE or otherwise. Tell us about your Suzuki Wagon R.

[Scootersp]

Periodic £10K EC budget check (over 1/3 of all autotrader cars are below this price)

Estates x2 MG's
SUV only MG or Kia Souls (SUV tag for them a bit dubious?)

Coupes even more dubious here! Citroen Ami, Renault Twizy or Smart fortwo (I don't think any are over 100 miles range)

Tesla model S £9k 148K miles and a battery issue?

So nothing fun, large or practical EV wise for a huge part of the buying public.