Anyone driven an Ultima and a Noble ??
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If anyone can answer 'yes' to the above question, can they then clearly define the major differences between the two cars. This may sound like a daft question, but there are several very close similarities between the two cars , i.e. low volume, hand built, British built, same designer, track and road car.
So, what sets them apart ?
Why would you buy one and not the other and vice-versa ?
I don't think that this topic has been raised, but EVERYONE should have an opinion on this matter and it would be good to hear everyones angle on this.
So, what sets them apart ?
Why would you buy one and not the other and vice-versa ?
I don't think that this topic has been raised, but EVERYONE should have an opinion on this matter and it would be good to hear everyones angle on this.
I can answer this one as me good mate Simon loaned me his 615bhp Ult for a week before I picked up the Noble...and the following is compared to my standard engined 3R.
Straight line is easily sorted, the Ultima is top dog...and the faster the speed, the more comprehensively it beats the Noble.
Handling wise the boot is on the other foot...the Noble goes around corners faster, and the worse the road surface, the the bigger the gap between the two cars. The Noble always feels planted and is only put out of shape by a big prod of the loud pedal, whereas the Ultima seemed much more nervous and squirrely when pushed hard.
On track which is faster? I'd say that places like Brands Indy and Cadwell the Noble would win (just) but on the bigger circuits like Donny or Silverstone the Ult would come out on top (just).
If you drive the Ult for, say, an hour, you need to get out and stretch your legs/back, have a cup of tea and let your brain catch up...it wears you out. On the other hand I drove the Noble from my house in Marbella to Bordeaux, that's 750 miles, driving for 12 hours only stopping for fuel and a half hour lunch break. I got out feeling as fresh as a daisy, and couldn't wait to get back in the car the next morning to do the next leg up to Le Mans for the 24 hour race. For the road the Noble is by far the most sensible choice...but when did sensible count for much in the world of Boys Toys?
Which one should you buy? Both! Life is too short not to enjoy yourself, so I intend having an Ult of my own one day. If you find yourself having to choose between these two awsome cars you're a very lucky boy!
Martin.
Straight line is easily sorted, the Ultima is top dog...and the faster the speed, the more comprehensively it beats the Noble.
Handling wise the boot is on the other foot...the Noble goes around corners faster, and the worse the road surface, the the bigger the gap between the two cars. The Noble always feels planted and is only put out of shape by a big prod of the loud pedal, whereas the Ultima seemed much more nervous and squirrely when pushed hard.
On track which is faster? I'd say that places like Brands Indy and Cadwell the Noble would win (just) but on the bigger circuits like Donny or Silverstone the Ult would come out on top (just).
If you drive the Ult for, say, an hour, you need to get out and stretch your legs/back, have a cup of tea and let your brain catch up...it wears you out. On the other hand I drove the Noble from my house in Marbella to Bordeaux, that's 750 miles, driving for 12 hours only stopping for fuel and a half hour lunch break. I got out feeling as fresh as a daisy, and couldn't wait to get back in the car the next morning to do the next leg up to Le Mans for the 24 hour race. For the road the Noble is by far the most sensible choice...but when did sensible count for much in the world of Boys Toys?
Which one should you buy? Both! Life is too short not to enjoy yourself, so I intend having an Ult of my own one day. If you find yourself having to choose between these two awsome cars you're a very lucky boy!
Martin.
Jenx said:
I can answer this one as me good mate Simon loaned me his 615bhp Ult for a week before I picked up the Noble...and the following is compared to my standard engined 3R.
Straight line is easily sorted, the Ultima is top dog...and the faster the speed, the more comprehensively it beats the Noble.
Handling wise the boot is on the other foot...the Noble goes around corners faster, and the worse the road surface, the the bigger the gap between the two cars. The Noble always feels planted and is only put out of shape by a big prod of the loud pedal, whereas the Ultima seemed much more nervous and squirrely when pushed hard.
On track which is faster? I'd say that places like Brands Indy and Cadwell the Noble would win (just) but on the bigger circuits like Donny or Silverstone the Ult would come out on top (just).
If you drive the Ult for, say, an hour, you need to get out and stretch your legs/back, have a cup of tea and let your brain catch up...it wears you out. On the other hand I drove the Noble from my house in Marbella to Bordeaux, that's 750 miles, driving for 12 hours only stopping for fuel and a half hour lunch break. I got out feeling as fresh as a daisy, and couldn't wait to get back in the car the next morning to do the next leg up to Le Mans for the 24 hour race. For the road the Noble is by far the most sensible choice...but when did sensible count for much in the world of Boys Toys?
Which one should you buy? Both! Life is too short not to enjoy yourself, so I intend having an Ult of my own one day. If you find yourself having to choose between these two awsome cars you're a very lucky boy!
Martin.
Martin is spot on with the above,however I have just fitted Triple adjustable top quality dampers with Eibac springs to the Can Am and it now handles like a Noble,well almost!Straight line is easily sorted, the Ultima is top dog...and the faster the speed, the more comprehensively it beats the Noble.
Handling wise the boot is on the other foot...the Noble goes around corners faster, and the worse the road surface, the the bigger the gap between the two cars. The Noble always feels planted and is only put out of shape by a big prod of the loud pedal, whereas the Ultima seemed much more nervous and squirrely when pushed hard.
On track which is faster? I'd say that places like Brands Indy and Cadwell the Noble would win (just) but on the bigger circuits like Donny or Silverstone the Ult would come out on top (just).
If you drive the Ult for, say, an hour, you need to get out and stretch your legs/back, have a cup of tea and let your brain catch up...it wears you out. On the other hand I drove the Noble from my house in Marbella to Bordeaux, that's 750 miles, driving for 12 hours only stopping for fuel and a half hour lunch break. I got out feeling as fresh as a daisy, and couldn't wait to get back in the car the next morning to do the next leg up to Le Mans for the 24 hour race. For the road the Noble is by far the most sensible choice...but when did sensible count for much in the world of Boys Toys?
Which one should you buy? Both! Life is too short not to enjoy yourself, so I intend having an Ult of my own one day. If you find yourself having to choose between these two awsome cars you're a very lucky boy!
Martin.
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