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Sway said:
I'm absolutely fine. Amused in fact.
Here's your words (direct quotes, no 'twisting'):
"So I'm off to Dubai where businesses can grow and everyone pays their own way and fair share."
Both those statements are b
ks. Your business (and many others) have and are successfully growing in the UK. People do not 'pay their own way and fair share' in Dubai - indeed it's far worse than here in that regard (but not for ultra high net worth chaps like yourself, so hey, you're alright Jack).
"Maybe have a think about the real reason why I'm moving, which is to go somewhere where things are a lot more equal than over here."
Again, complete nonsense. It's far more unequal in fact, with the Emirati and rich westerners having a completely different (enshrined in law) position to the indentured workers and underclass.
Yes, I know what the average childhood is like now. Because I have average kids in the UK. I'm not afraid for them to go out playing in the local woods/fields/beach - they choose not to in the main because of the appeal of the screen and online sociability. By your own words "most want to play with their friends online instead of play in the woods or field".
None of this "bothers me". As said, it amuses me how you're trying to use bulls
t justifications for ignoring everything other than a move to make you even richer. Especially when your children are female.
Honestly you could give an aspirin a headache. Here's your words (direct quotes, no 'twisting'):
"So I'm off to Dubai where businesses can grow and everyone pays their own way and fair share."
Both those statements are b

"Maybe have a think about the real reason why I'm moving, which is to go somewhere where things are a lot more equal than over here."
Again, complete nonsense. It's far more unequal in fact, with the Emirati and rich westerners having a completely different (enshrined in law) position to the indentured workers and underclass.
Yes, I know what the average childhood is like now. Because I have average kids in the UK. I'm not afraid for them to go out playing in the local woods/fields/beach - they choose not to in the main because of the appeal of the screen and online sociability. By your own words "most want to play with their friends online instead of play in the woods or field".
None of this "bothers me". As said, it amuses me how you're trying to use bulls

Ok so let’s go over this one last time shall we.
Again I never said anything about it being a fair country or making it out like it’s a place of integrity, because there are no places like that. As long as there are people in this world with power, they will do whatever they can to maintain it. That’s in every country in the world. So calm down Jack.
Yes businesses can grow in Dubai much better than over here as they aren’t being taxed to within an inch of their lives. I’ll employ more people being over there than I ever would over here, thus creating more jobs. People do pay their fair share over there, you want medical help, you pay the doctors and the hospitals, you want to use any of their devices, you pay. Nothing is free, so yeah……everyone pays their fair share. How hard is that to understand.
How is living over there going to make me any richer when I’ll be spending more money on employing more people that will be living and working over here? The only difference is that I personally won’t be paying U.K. tax, however this will be far outweighed by the fact that I’ll be spending more on wages and infrastructures on my business over here.
So no matter what problem you have with me moving over there just keep it to yourself, you’re just starting to sound weird and bitter. A guy you don’t know is moving to a country you don’t like, so either stay on here for the car updates or leave so we can all get back to the important things like what was it like to drive the Singer and is there any other reasons I’m selling it? You know, the important stuff!
2manycars said:
what was it like to drive the Singer and is there any other reasons I’m selling it? You know, the important stuff!
So what was it like and why are you selling it? Did the colour clash with your eyes?
Re move don't blame you, it really does feel like the government wants to squeeze the last drop out of anyone working for themselves or employed. The only trickling down seems to be coming out of the water companies into the rivers.
We've had similar discussions but family ties/ need currently too strong for the next few years at least, only you know what is right for you and your family at this point in time- good luck with the move,
ThomW said:
I'll absolutely go back. Mum sadly only has 6 months to live, dad will battle on but I honestly can't see him being around for much more than a few years sadly. So yeah will definitely go back.
The US is such a vast place, you just need to find the pockets of awesome. I was in Bend, Oregon and honestly it was just like the UK but with nicer people.
Sorry to hear about your Mum. Hearing stuff like that just reminds me I need to spend more time with my aging parents whilst they're around.The US is such a vast place, you just need to find the pockets of awesome. I was in Bend, Oregon and honestly it was just like the UK but with nicer people.
Have you ever played Days Gone?!
2manycars said:
epom said:
The Manta, it'd be happy to keep it in Ireland for you 
Good luck on your travels !!
Haha thanks man but it’s already in Ireland along with my other rally cars. Next time I’ve over there (should be quite soon actually) I’ll post it on here and if you want to come along and see it then feel free. 
Good luck on your travels !!

Wonderman said:
So what was it like and why are you selling it? Did the colour clash with your eyes?
Re move don't blame you, it really does feel like the government wants to squeeze the last drop out of anyone working for themselves or employed. The only trickling down seems to be coming out of the water companies into the rivers.
We've had similar discussions but family ties/ need currently too strong for the next few years at least, only you know what is right for you and your family at this point in time- good luck with the move,
What was it like? Ermmmmmm, well let’s say that just because you can buy the best ingredients and throw them in a pan, doesn’t make you the worlds best dish. 
Re move don't blame you, it really does feel like the government wants to squeeze the last drop out of anyone working for themselves or employed. The only trickling down seems to be coming out of the water companies into the rivers.
We've had similar discussions but family ties/ need currently too strong for the next few years at least, only you know what is right for you and your family at this point in time- good luck with the move,
Would I ever buy another Singer? Absolutely not.
Yeah that’s how it feels to a lot of my friends and clients who are running businesses, they are really worried about their future and actually I’ve lost 6 friends in the past 5 months to different countries. They are all off to pastures new. Fresh start and all that. Hope you do what’s right for you and if you stay then I hope the country eases a bit and if you move then I hope it all goes well for you.
2manycars said:
What was it like? Ermmmmmm, well let’s say that just because you can buy the best ingredients and throw them in a pan, doesn’t make you the worlds best dish.
Would I ever buy another Singer? Absolutely not.
Yeah that’s how it feels to a lot of my friends and clients who are running businesses, they are really worried about their future and actually I’ve lost 6 friends in the past 5 months to different countries. They are all off to pastures new. Fresh start and all that. Hope you do what’s right for you and if you stay then I hope the country eases a bit and if you move then I hope it all goes well for you.
A case that once you make the car perfect it becomes a bit soulless? was it just too good?Would I ever buy another Singer? Absolutely not.
Yeah that’s how it feels to a lot of my friends and clients who are running businesses, they are really worried about their future and actually I’ve lost 6 friends in the past 5 months to different countries. They are all off to pastures new. Fresh start and all that. Hope you do what’s right for you and if you stay then I hope the country eases a bit and if you move then I hope it all goes well for you.
2manycars said:
epom said:
The Manta, it'd be happy to keep it in Ireland for you 
Good luck on your travels !!
Haha thanks man but it’s already in Ireland along with my other rally cars
Good luck on your travels !!

Plus if you head down West Cork way they’ll love you with that Manta
Northern sweatshop call centre boss with 200 Lambos flees country to hole up in Dubai. Is anyone surprised?
Wouldn't normally post something like that, but Watt.co.uk are among the energy vultures sending me bulls
tty emails on a daily basis. No doubt the business will continue to operate in the UK even from his tax haven abroad.
Just go direct to utility companies everyone, if someone calls you or emails you and you haven't asked them to, you're gonna get pressured.
Edited for fairness. I'm a bit fed up of dealing with energy companies.
Wouldn't normally post something like that, but Watt.co.uk are among the energy vultures sending me bulls

Just go direct to utility companies everyone, if someone calls you or emails you and you haven't asked them to, you're gonna get pressured.
Edited for fairness. I'm a bit fed up of dealing with energy companies.
Edited by dimots on Thursday 6th July 14:53
andburg said:
handbuilt cars using the best possible parts are let down the hands and the fact the parts were never really designed to be used together?
sounds like there is a Story singer wont want you to tell
Everything comes out in the end. Let’s just say that the car wasn’t for me. sounds like there is a Story singer wont want you to tell
dimots said:
Northern sweatshop call centre boss with 200 Lambos flees country to hole up in Dubai. Is anyone surprised?
Wouldn't normally post something like that, but Watt.co.uk are among the energy vultures sending me bulls
tty emails on a daily basis. No doubt the scam will continue to operate in the UK even from his tax haven abroad.
Just go direct to utility companies everyone, if someone calls you or emails you and you haven't asked them to, you're gonna get scammed.
I doubt very much that we’ve sent you an email and if we have then that’ll simply because your contract is up for renewal as we don’t do marketing emails. So please don’t tar me with your sWouldn't normally post something like that, but Watt.co.uk are among the energy vultures sending me bulls

Just go direct to utility companies everyone, if someone calls you or emails you and you haven't asked them to, you're gonna get scammed.

And yeah go direct to the energy companies if you want, no one is stopping you. However what we are doing at Watt is working with the suppliers and renewing as much of their customer base as possible so we can actually get a cheaper price book than what they have internally.
We disclose all our commissions which even if they are built into your price will 9 out of 10 times still be cheaper than what you’ll find yourself ringing round all the utility companies.
And I’ve never owned a single Lamborghini in my life, well apart from a tractor.
So it’s very easy to spew your stupidity online but actually take a moment to do some comparisons on our prices and what you’ll get if you go direct. And if this is how you think and act, maybe you shouldn’t be making these decisions when running a business. However if you want a price that’ll be cheaper than you’ll get direct, feel free to drop me a PM and I’ll do it for you for free.
Is it any wonder people go quiet and leave?
Pete gets asked to come back here and update only to be subjected to accusations and abuse over his decisions to put his own family first. I expect everyone who's having a go is housing a ukranian refugee while living like they're on I'm a celebrity on ethically grown rice and beans while donating their entire wage packet to feed the starving in the third world yeah?
Pete gets asked to come back here and update only to be subjected to accusations and abuse over his decisions to put his own family first. I expect everyone who's having a go is housing a ukranian refugee while living like they're on I'm a celebrity on ethically grown rice and beans while donating their entire wage packet to feed the starving in the third world yeah?
andburg said:
Is it any wonder people go quiet and leave?
Pete gets asked to come back here and update only to be subjected to accusations and abuse over his decisions to put his own family first. I expect everyone who's having a go is housing a ukranian refugee while living like they're on I'm a celebrity on ethically grown rice and beans while donating their entire wage packet to feed the starving in the third world yeah?
Thanks Andburg, I don’t mind a debate, hell i encourage with my girls. Won’t I don’t like is people making stupid remarks about things they don’t understand. Yes I own a utility company but I don’t spam people with emails, it’s actually one thing where we fall behind with the competition, because I don’t like it. The only time we send any emails out is when it’s a reminder about the customers contract. Something that if we didn’t do we would be slagged off for, so I can’t win either way. Pete gets asked to come back here and update only to be subjected to accusations and abuse over his decisions to put his own family first. I expect everyone who's having a go is housing a ukranian refugee while living like they're on I'm a celebrity on ethically grown rice and beans while donating their entire wage packet to feed the starving in the third world yeah?
What I will say though to the person who said I’m a vulture company. Do me a favour, find me the email I sent you, post it on here and we’ll see if it’s a marketing email or it’s actually about your contract that needs renewing. If it does need renewing and you haven’t done anything because you thought it was a spam email then unfortunately you may have rolled over onto deemed prices, which basically means you’ll be paying about 30% more than your contract prices. So that’s why you’d have received an email from us, but I doubt that very much.
2manycars said:
Thanks Andburg, I don’t mind a debate, hell i encourage with my girls. Won’t I don’t like is people making stupid remarks about things they don’t understand. Yes I own a utility company but I don’t spam people with emails, it’s actually one thing where we fall behind with the competition, because I don’t like it. The only time we send any emails out is when it’s a reminder about the customers contract. Something that if we didn’t do we would be slagged off for, so I can’t win either way.
What I will say though to the person who said I’m a vulture company. Do me a favour, find me the email I sent you, post it on here and we’ll see if it’s a marketing email or it’s actually about your contract that needs renewing. If it does need renewing and you haven’t done anything because you thought it was a spam email then unfortunately you may have rolled over onto deemed prices, which basically means you’ll be paying about 30% more than your contract prices. So that’s why you’d have received an email from us, but I doubt that very much.
You have sent me an email saying my account is flagged as being in the renewal window.What I will say though to the person who said I’m a vulture company. Do me a favour, find me the email I sent you, post it on here and we’ll see if it’s a marketing email or it’s actually about your contract that needs renewing. If it does need renewing and you haven’t done anything because you thought it was a spam email then unfortunately you may have rolled over onto deemed prices, which basically means you’ll be paying about 30% more than your contract prices. So that’s why you’d have received an email from us, but I doubt that very much.
You're not the only company to have contacted me, but I can not see any reason why your company should have my details.
I don't know what the regs are on selling my data to companies like yours or where you get it from but it seems you are in Wave 2 and not officially appointed like the original company that contacted me - Bionic.
I went direct and got a cheaper price than the one offered by Bionic.
This thread has become a real disappointment with some of the comments. It's supposed to be about the cars and it's turned way too personal.
I don't know Pete and have no skin in the praise game but good luck with the move Pete and safe travels - thanks for sharing your cars on here. Hopefully we'll see you on here again.
And if you're ever in Perth, Australia would be happy to grab a beer.
I don't know Pete and have no skin in the praise game but good luck with the move Pete and safe travels - thanks for sharing your cars on here. Hopefully we'll see you on here again.
And if you're ever in Perth, Australia would be happy to grab a beer.
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