Clarkson in the Sunday Times on 997TT

Clarkson in the Sunday Times on 997TT

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adam b

27,472 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th July 2006
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Jonny F said:
There are very few people "championing the cause" of the petrolheads. Fewer still who do it with as little pc as he does.

Just thank your lucky stars he is on our side....and not Kens!!!!


Spot on, he is about a fifth as funny as he thinks he is and much less funny than the people who get all hot under the colour because he doesn't like their car brand/model

Yes, he can be frustatingly inconsistent and lets hyperbole rule his head so he has to love it or loathe it but its entertainment - he sells papers and programmes not cars.

997TT review was as expected - he admired it, said it was hugely rapid and efficient, just a bit souless compared to Italian rivals.

I'm a Porsche fan but not so blinkered that I can't see where he is coming from, and certainly agree that although the 997 is a wonderful looking car (better even than the 993 for me) the 997TT styling is overly fussy in every detail.

heebeegeetee

28,928 posts

250 months

Thursday 27th July 2006
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Marquis_Rex said:
It is true that his views along with other ill informed journalists effects the residuals of our cars....
How people think of cars or even rememeber them is mainly coloured by the opinions of car magazines or else MGBs and Dolomite Sprints wouldn't achieve the second hand values they do!


Hmm. Not sure how to take that, given that MGBs have always had the biggest load of bollox printed about them, always.

Not totally sure that motoring jouros are that able to sway opinions that much, either.

Take the aforementioned MGB: The press always said they were crap (whilst ALWAYS comparing them with more expensive cars such as the Elan which cost about twice as much) but the public continued to buy them and enjoy them for years. I understand US sales peaked 2 years before they went out of production.

Or take the diesel issue. We are an oil producing nation, so our govt does not want a 30% reduction in fuel sales, thank you very much. So they instructed the motoring media to do the hatchet job, which they did and produced no end of lies, but the public took no notice and bought them anyway.

I love JC, he's been the best thing to happen to our motoring media bar none. But please, please to god above, don't anyone tell me that anyone actually takes the slightest bit of notice of what he says. Surely nobody does?

I've never in all my years, when enjoying a healthy debate with anyone, I've never ever heard anyone quote Clarkson in any form of seriousness.

Marquis_Rex

7,377 posts

241 months

Thursday 27th July 2006
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heebeegeetee said:
Marquis_Rex said:
It is true that his views along with other ill informed journalists effects the residuals of our cars....
How people think of cars or even rememeber them is mainly coloured by the opinions of car magazines or else MGBs and Dolomite Sprints wouldn't achieve the second hand values they do!


Hmm. Not sure how to take that, given that MGBs have always had the biggest load of bollox printed about them, always.

Not totally sure that motoring jouros are that able to sway opinions that much, either.

Take the aforementioned MGB: The press always said they were crap (whilst ALWAYS comparing them with more expensive cars such as the Elan which cost about twice as much) but the public continued to buy them and enjoy them for years. I understand US sales peaked 2 years before they went out of production.

Or take the diesel issue. We are an oil producing nation, so our govt does not want a 30% reduction in fuel sales, thank you very much. So they instructed the motoring media to do the hatchet job, which they did and produced no end of lies, but the public took no notice and bought them anyway.

I love JC, he's been the best thing to happen to our motoring media bar none. But please, please to god above, don't anyone tell me that anyone actually takes the slightest bit of notice of what he says. Surely nobody does?

I've never in all my years, when enjoying a healthy debate with anyone, I've never ever heard anyone quote Clarkson in any form of seriousness.

Yes but nowadaysClassic and Sports car et al may well as be renamed MGB monthly or E type monthly . Just gets a bit boring. "Your Classic" was different, but then that was absorbed and dissolved (probably because it was construed as a threat to the many established "beardy clasics"

Edited by Marquis_Rex on Thursday 27th July 07:33

ph123

1,841 posts

220 months

Thursday 27th July 2006
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"I've never in all my years, when enjoying a healthy debate with anyone, I've never ever heard anyone quote Clarkson in any form of seriousness."
- then HBGT, I would suggest you are in serious danger in underestimating his effect upon public perception and opinion.