Windscreen Problems

Windscreen Problems

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Andyman

Original Poster:

3 posts

266 months

Friday 18th April 2003
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Hi.
I just bought my first Jago Geep and I need to replace the windscreen - er to put it correctly, I would like to put a windscreen in.

As far as I understand these were initially made by Jago and as such I can't replace with a donor car part - is this correct? Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I can go about this - I was thinking of contacting a laminate glass cutter and supplying him with a plan...

Thanks in advance

Andy

techsec

633 posts

283 months

Friday 18th April 2003
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There are two methods of getting a new windscreen.
Method One ring Jago Developments on 01243 789366 and ask if they have any windscreens in stock and the current price (in 1999 the price was £74 for the glass then there was a £50 deposit on the crate and £16 p&p on the crate)
Method Two go to your local car windscreen place or Plant glazier (JCB's and Tractors type plant) and get them to cut a screen to fit from laminated glass of the correct thickness.
Take the vehicle with you for the best fit.


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dave36

188 posts

279 months

Friday 18th April 2003
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Where are you?
I have just removed my damaged but complete screen, I do have a replacement ready to go in - so a pattern very easy!

andyman

Original Poster:

3 posts

266 months

Monday 28th April 2003
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Thanks for the replies - sorry its so late in responding.

After many unsuccessful phone calls to car glaziers I tried some plant people as you suggested and got recommended a good car windscreen man. When I phoned him he even had a jago plan, which when compared to my own body plan seemed to follow nicely.

In future if you're in the Bournemouth area and want a windscreen I can recommend Martin Bridle windscreens...

cheers

andy

dave36

188 posts

279 months

Monday 28th April 2003
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The burning question, how much? I never have had much luck putting in a screen! Due to have Jago back from paint shop next week, then comes fitting out..........

David Bancroft

64 posts

268 months

Thursday 8th May 2003
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Last time I contacted Jago about screens they were still able to supply them. Alternatively if you find a company that replaces glass on JCBs etc e.g. Cab Glass they will help & probably do it on site. Get laminated, It should be kite marked or something to be fully legal, but I would expect them to be able to supply a good quality glass

andyman

Original Poster:

3 posts

266 months

Wednesday 14th May 2003
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once again sorry for the delay - guess i've been too busy driving my new jago about....so much fun!

I made a plan of my jago windscreen area and Martin purchased a land rover windscreen was cut down to the plan with an 8mm over lap allowed.

I then fit this myself - never done windscreens before - and it fits fine.

It cost me just under 60 in all for the glass, having it cut to size and some chrome. I didn't think that was too bad at all!

Incidentally, I also went to Cherries ( a local boat craftsman shop) and picked up a handy little tool for inserting the chrome - basically a squashed wire hoop on a file handle, but it made fitting the chrome really easy.


v8 jago

982 posts

267 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Talking of windscreens whilst messing around in my garage with my jeep, just happened to look at the top of my window and it had popped out of the rubber the full length of the screen i managed to pop the window back into place without smashing it has anyone else had the same experience ?, is their a chance that the window could pop out again without warning or should i glue the rubber to the frame as the rubber had pushed up...

techsec

633 posts

283 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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There have been previous incidents where the screen has come out of the rubber/frame and attempted to hit the occupants.
However before everyone runs around screaming that Jago's windscreens are un safe it usually only happened on Geeps that were travelling at speed (possibly over 70mph) and only the odd one or two. It is either
(1)the rubber has deteriorated so has become weak.
(2)a new screen has been fitted which is slightly over/undersize for the frame.
(3)due to an occasional glich in the frame making up process.
The more likely situations being the first or second items above.


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v8 jago

982 posts

267 months

Monday 26th May 2003
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if you read my last message that says the top of my windscreen had popped out and i managed to put it back in without smashing it. well yesterday i can confirm that i was on the dragstrip doing 100mph when the windscreen decided to join me inside my jeep, it shattred on my crash helmet and landed on my lap but managed to take it of me put it in the passanger footwell and finish the race. But belive me i sh-t myself. Has anyone heard of a screen called lexion or something like that and can you use it as a windscreen on the roads, as it is very tough and doesnt scratch or mark.

techsec

633 posts

283 months

Tuesday 27th May 2003
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Hi
I presume the lexion you are on about is a form of polycarbonate clear sheeting.
The "bible" for MOT and SVA testing (yes I know a registered Geep does not need an SVA but it lays out most of the "road legal" rules) states that windscreens should be made of safety glass of a recognised standard and thus marked. This usually being toughed glass on older vehicles and laminated on most other vehicles.
However there is a sub note which indicates that "safety Glazing" can be fitted in certain circumstances (but does not give any indication of circumstances).
Well their definition of safety glazing is " a material other than glass which is constructed or treated in a way that if fractured it does not break into fragments which would cause severe cuts." Safety glazing does not require markings.

One other item is to do with the opacity of the windscreen and other windows. It should allow visible transmission of light not less than 70%.

I hope this helps rather than confuses.

IanA

472 posts

283 months

Tuesday 27th May 2003
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"Lexan" (probably TM DuPont or someone) withstands a shotgun blast at close range but may not be used as a windscreen as it is not scratch resistant. It's used on safety helmets as a visor material but needs very careful cleaning- it wouldn't last ten minutes under wiper blades... It is often used as sidewindow material in all sorts of racing applications so is readily available.
Cheers
Ian

IanA

472 posts

283 months

Tuesday 27th May 2003
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Further- check out:

www.up22.com/lexan.htm

which accesses a supplier of dragster windscreens for various models of car...but not for road use.
Cheers
Ian

v8 jago

982 posts

267 months

Wednesday 28th May 2003
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Thanks for the info i think ill have to make some brackets for my windscreen incase it decides to join me again. I know where there is half a jeep that has the windscreen left in but dont know if they will sell it to me as it is in a pub.... Yes a pub used as a DJ box. See jago`s dont die !