New E10 fuel cant be used in older ferraris

New E10 fuel cant be used in older ferraris

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FezSpider

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1,066 posts

238 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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I have only just heard about this new fuel they are going to be making us use this year.
I dont really know much about it because they seem to have bought it in stealthy. It seems they are determined to layer by layer get cars of the road.
It's only compatible with certain year cars and looking on the gov website, any ferrari made before 2005 cant use it.
These cars should carry on using E5 fuel which will only be available for another 5 years. Then what? https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/cars/government...
I dont know much about this fuel, does anyone have any more information or have looked into this?

johnnyreggae

2,998 posts

166 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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USA has been having this discussion a while on Ferrarichat - it is not clear if that information which currently comes from the government website fully represents Ferrari's position - much like for unleaded it will probably take another ten years for the factory to advise - the E5 will continue in super unleaded anyway so for most it will be less of an issue for pre-2005 Ferraris (which tend to prefer super unleaded) if 95 octane with E10 avoided

murphyaj

787 posts

81 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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This is concerning, but as pointed out above, and also confirmed on the Gov website "super" 98+ unleaded will still be E5 and I doubt many Ferrari owners are using the cheaper unleaded where there is a choice.

It's worth noting that Esso Supreme+ 99 is ethanol free in most of England, Wales and NI, even though it is labelled as E5 for legal reasons. My local is an Esso so I always use that in my F430, so this is reassuring information.

https://www.esso.co.uk/en-gb/fuels/petrol

Esso said:
Although our pumps have E5 labels on them, our Synergy Supreme+ 99 is actually ethanol free (except, due to technical supply reasons, in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland). Legislation requires us to place these E5 labels on pumps that dispense unleaded petrol with ‘up to 5% ethanol’, including those that contain no ethanol, which is why we display them on our Synergy Supreme+ 99 pumps.

Durzel

12,441 posts

174 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Who is NOT using at least Super Unleaded in their Ferraris? Heresy!

bordseye

2,034 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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I'm not. Why not use 95 octane - until now that is?

GregK2

1,690 posts

152 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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bordseye said:
I'm not. Why not use 95 octane - until now that is?
Because you don't buy a race horse and feed it dog food? wink

Durzel

12,441 posts

174 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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I've never had a performance car that hasn't felt more lively from using Super upwards. I used to swear by Tesco's 99 in my 458.

Perhaps psychosomatic but the cost difference wasn't something that really entered my head. Each to their own though.

willy wombat

957 posts

154 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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I once almost ran out of fuel in the hills above Florence, to the extent that I was coasting down hills (at which point I was passed by a Fiat Panda containing four nuns, but that’s another story) when I came across a tiny, unbranded filling station with two pumps, one petrol and the other diesel. No idea what sort of petrol it was but the 458 ran fine on it.

DeejRC

6,385 posts

88 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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If you were coming down from the Fi-Pi-Li then don't feel dishonoured about being passed by the nuns in the Panda.
I used to run that road a lot back when I was flying into Firenze and working out of Pisa, it absolutely wasn't unusual to see, to use the old phrase, Nuns on the Run!

They would fly past you, the law wouldn't even think of touching them! I used to find it amusing as hell smile

Ferruccio

1,840 posts

125 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Didn’t Sammy Davis Jnr and Dean Martin dress as nuns in The Cannonball Run?

jasonwdh

270 posts

115 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Ferruccio said:
Didn’t Sammy Davis Jnr and Dean Martin dress as nuns in The Cannonball Run?
close - priests! Apparently you can spread the lord's word faster in a Ferrari smile

BobTurner

397 posts

216 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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jasonwdh said:
close - priests! Apparently you can spread the lord's word faster in a Ferrari smile
But only 2 seats in a 308, nowhere for god to sit

Kyodo

733 posts

130 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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GregK2 said:
Because you don't buy a race horse and feed it dog food? wink
I used 95 in our 360 because that's what it said in the owner's manual.

jasonwdh

270 posts

115 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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BobTurner said:
jasonwdh said:
close - priests! Apparently you can spread the lord's word faster in a Ferrari smile
But only 2 seats in a 308, nowhere for god to sit
Sammy Davis Jr's words so it must be right - I'm guessing his "word" didn't need a seat in the film?

DeejRC

6,385 posts

88 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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You have seen the body on a 308 right? God was the bodywork boys, one of his lesser known names is Fioravanti di Pininfarina smile

FezSpider

Original Poster:

1,066 posts

238 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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jasonwdh said:
Ferruccio said:
Didn’t Sammy Davis Jnr and Dean Martin dress as nuns in The Cannonball Run?
close - priests! Apparently you can spread the lord's word faster in a Ferrari smile
it was Burt Reynolds dressed as a fake US Army officers that picked up two fake nuns in the movie.

jasonwdh

270 posts

115 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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FezSpider said:
jasonwdh said:
Ferruccio said:
Didn’t Sammy Davis Jnr and Dean Martin dress as nuns in The Cannonball Run?
close - priests! Apparently you can spread the lord's word faster in a Ferrari smile
it was Burt Reynolds dressed as a fake US Army officers that picked up two fake nuns in the movie.
not in the original one he wasn't. Burt Reynolds and Dom Deluise drove an ambulance. Sammy Davis Jr and Dean Martin were priests in a 308...

FezSpider

Original Poster:

1,066 posts

238 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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jasonwdh said:
not in the original one he wasn't. Burt Reynolds and Dom Deluise drove an ambulance. Sammy Davis Jr and Dean Martin were priests in a 308...
I suppose some one might care that it was not in the original one lol.
I commented because I thought he was getting confused with these nuns....


Edited by FezSpider on Thursday 24th June 15:58

sparta6

3,734 posts

106 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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jasonwdh said:
Ferruccio said:
Didn’t Sammy Davis Jnr and Dean Martin dress as nuns in The Cannonball Run?
close - priests! Apparently you can spread the lord's word faster in a Ferrari smile
The Pope does it regularly smile

jasonwdh

270 posts

115 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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sparta6 said:
jasonwdh said:
Ferruccio said:
Didn’t Sammy Davis Jnr and Dean Martin dress as nuns in The Cannonball Run?
close - priests! Apparently you can spread the lord's word faster in a Ferrari smile
The Pope does it regularly smile
lol - didn't the Pope get given an Enzo (either the 1st or last off the production line)? Vaguely remember it hitting the news at the time, could be wrong (again!)!