Anyone Crashed an Evo???

[Munter]

screem said:

I was very suprised at how different this vehicle behaved in comparison to how it behaves when your not near the brakes.

I suppose what im saying is that this vehicle demands a lot more respect when braking than it does when accelerating.

And drivers of this car that havent crashed it should be aware of that!!

F**k Me Is it always like this on here ??? (attitude)

The only cars that need more respect on the throttle than the brakes would be something high powered and RWD I would think. Everything else (in my limited experiance) gets much more unstable when using the brakes hard at speed....

It's only like this when you 'seem' to be trying to brag about driving badly or 'seem' to be trying to blame the car for an accident when the car was clearly not at fault.

[Flintstone]

screem said:

Whats the matter with these people.

"These people" object to sharing the roads with 'Those people' who drive in such a manner as to result in an accident at sufficient speed to hit two other cars and a number of inanimate objects including a house. The problem is that you can't see the problem.

screem said:

You know absolutely nothing about the circumstances.

Yes I do. You detailed them in your original (self incriminating) post.

screem said:

Nobody was hurt. you stupid t*at!!

This time. I was asking that when you do it again you keep it that way.

screem said:

You are assuming i drive like a maniac all the time.

Hey, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck.............

screem said:

When i said i drive my cars to the limit i meant on a racing track!!

Except this time of course when you took it to the limit and beyond.

You're special.

[thetrash]

I see the hole is getting deeper.

If you changed the word road to track people would have had more sympathy.

[Flintstone]

screem said:

Wrong Again, I was driving within the speed limit!!

Yet still too fast for the conditions. Do you know the difference? Don't bother answering, it was a rhetorical question. The results speak for themselves.

screem said:

The two parked cars were at 90 degrees to the house and parked right up to it with probably 12" to the house. I hit both cars which shunted one into the house causing very little damage (small amount of cement render needed replacing)

The extent of the damage is irrelevant. You hit them. Suppose there had been people there? "Oh, I only hurt them a little bit".

screem said:

I said i was braking hard at high speed this happens every day on the motorway!! your not telling me this was enough information for you to make comments like "Next time you chuck yourself into the scenery make sure it's only you that gets hurt would you? What a t**t.

The only people braking hard at high speed on the motorway every day are drivers like you. I often see them being lifted into ambulances and their cars on to low loaders having crawled through the tailback they've caused.

screem said:

This to me implies somebody got hurt on this occasion. (Wrong)

Then clearly your powers of perception are as flawed as your driving skills.

screem said:

implying im gonna do it again are we,?? tut. tut, tut

Given your apparent refusal to learn from your mistakes on balance of probability I'd say you will.

screem said:

You are assuming i drive like a maniac all the time.

Flintstone said:

Hey, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck.............

........its not always a duck!!

Again, balance of probability would suggest otherwise.

screem said:

Preach preach preach,
And you never speed in your TVR do you??
Why did you buy it??
To go fast id expect??

Nice try, shift the focus but nobody's falling for that. Of course I bought the TVR to drive fast. Difference between us (among others) is I know when it's appropriate to do so and I didn't run out of talent and stack mine into the street furniture.

[BIG DUNC]

To answer the OP's original question, I have had a very similar accident in a scooby.
Some @@@@@@ pulled out in front of me. I lost the back end and stuffed it into a hedge. The @@@@@@ tt clearly saw this, but drove off without stopping leaving me stuck in a car where the doors would not open. Nice guy ( or lady, don't know which ).
Like the OP's accident, I was within the speed limit, but with hindsight going too quickly for the conditions.
I am not proud of it. I still don't think it was 100% my fault.
I would like to think that now my hazard perception etc has improved.

[roy e6]

This screem bloke sounds a right cock from what i have read. Lets hope he loses his licence soon and makes the roads safer for the rest of us.

[stevie_d]

You start off by saying;

screem said:

I Crashed an Evo 8 a couple of years ago while braking at high speed

Then you say;

screem said:

Wrong Again, I was driving within the speed limit!!

I've yet to hear a performance car driver say 60mph is "high speed". And for someone with so much track experience and such a high talent level, I would have thought 60mph would be rather sedate...

You then go onto say;

screem said:

I know the reason i lost control of the car was because i was going too fast after overtaking a vehicle on a long straight that thought it would be fun to speed up as i overtook and found myself approaching a stationary vehicle blocking the road on a blind bend

But you said you were within the speed limit, so this car must have been going very slowly! Also, Evo's (as you must know) are bloody quick, so what car were you overtaking to cause you considerable discomfort whilst trying to overtake?

screem said:

Leave out the obvious please!!
'Always be able to stop in less than the distance you can see' etc
Next you will be saying Mirror , signal, manoeuvre, !

Why? You obviously need to learn this...

Anyway mate, can you at least make some sense?

screem when talking about the crash he had on a public road said:

I push my cars to the absolute limit and thats when things can sometimes go wrong.

Then goes onto say;

screem said:

When i said i drive my cars to the limit i meant on a racing track!!

[screem]

BIG DUNC said:

To answer the OP's original question, I have had a very similar accident in a scooby.
Some @@@@@@ pulled out in front of me. I lost the back end and stuffed it into a hedge. The @@@@@@ tt clearly saw this, but drove off without stopping leaving me stuck in a car where the doors would not open. Nice guy ( or lady, don't know which ).
Like the OP's accident, I was within the speed limit, but with hindsight going too quickly for the conditions.
I am not proud of it. I still don't think it was 100% my fault.
I would like to think that now my hazard perception etc has improved.

At Last,

Someone who can make a point with some first hand knowledge.

This is my feeling completely: I am not proud of it. I still don't think it was 100% my fault.
I would like to think that now my hazard perception etc has improved in fact im convinced it has!!

Ive had one crash, over two years ago and everybody is so so quick to make comments like you "lack talent" and "Difference between us (among others) is I know when it's appropriate to do so and I didn't run out of talent and stack mine into the street furniture."

What i ran into was some jerk deciding to stop in the middle of the road for no good reason on a blind bend.

And the other car was a civic that thought it would be fun to go well below the speed limit and wait for me to attempt to overtake before flooring it.

Do you not think with hindsight i would of just pulled back in behind?

The guy was obviously provoking a race and i bit and paid for it!

Funny but he didnt wait around either!

[shadowninja]

It is at this juncture that I would like to introduce my favourite smiley...

[stevie_d]

Mate, your Evo had problems dispatching a Honda Civic and another car just decided to stop on a blind bend and "watch" you driving "under the speed limit".

It all seems a little bizarre to me, but I most certainly wasn't there, so I can't comment too much. I will however post a quote from a police officer I know very well, who has investigated hundreds of accidents over his career;

copper mate when investigating an accident where a driver ran out of talent said:

there is always a taxi/old person in slow car/nutter who caused the accident and then drove off without a trace...

[Flintstone]

screem said:

Someone who can make a point with some first hand knowledge.

The rest of us have first hand knowledge of people doing stupid things around us on the roads every day. The difference is most of us don't write our cars off as a result because irreespective of the speed limit we're driving appropriately for the conditions.

screem said:

I am not proud of it. I still don't think it was 100% my fault.

I'm sure you don't. The evidence you've provided suggests otherwise.

screem said:

Ive had one crash, over two years ago and everybody is so so quick to make comments like you "lack talent"

Now you're making things up, I said you ran out of talent. Completely different..............

screem said:

What i ran into was some jerk deciding to stop in the middle of the road for no good reason on a blind bend.

......but then again maybe your incorrect quote was closer to the truth. You were going to fast. If you weren't you could have stopped safely. Blind bend=slow down. Geddit?

screem said:

And the other car was a civic that thought it would be fun to go well below the speed limit and wait for me to attempt to overtake before flooring it.
Do you not think with hindsight i would of just pulled back in behind?
The guy was obviously provoking a race and i bit and paid for it!

Yep, you took the bait. Drove like an idiot and luckily this time only you paid the price. C'mon, you can say it. "I drove like a cock and I screwed up". You know it, I know it. Everyone else reading this thread knows it. Confession is the first step on the road to enlightenment.

[screem]

stevie_d said:

Mate, your Evo had problems dispatching a Honda Civic and another car just decided to stop on a blind bend and "watch" you driving "under the speed limit".

It all seems a little bizarre to me, but I most certainly wasn't there, so I can't comment too much. I will however post a quote from a police officer I know very well, who has investigated hundreds of accidents over his career;

copper mate when investigating an accident where a driver ran out of talent said:

there is always a taxi/old person in slow car/nutter who caused the accident and then drove off without a trace...

Hey dont underestimate a hoda civic!!,but after getting past the thing i really didnt expect to see the car that just a few moments earlier was quite a distance ahead to have stopped in a completely inappropriate place and was coming up a lot quicker than id anticipated.

Im not saying i wasnt to blame. I definately was and im not proud of it and have certainly learnt from it. all im saying is there were other factors involved.
ie
I wouldnt of crashed if i was going slower.
i wouldnt have crashed if i hadnt tried to overtake the civic,
i wouldnt have crashed if the car hadnt of stopped in the road. (And im talking in the road, not at the side of it!)
etc etc etc
I started this thread to ask if Anyone had crashed an Evo??
But within a few posts there were assumptions of lawsuits towards Mitsubishi, Accusations of lack of talent etc, etc, etc

Get a Grip.

[stevie_d]

screem said:

Get a Grip

If only your car had...



Anyway, if you've learnt your lesson then fair enough mate...

Edited by stevie_d on Saturday 11th August 22:24

[Flintstone]

screem said:

Accusations of lack of talent

You deliberately ignored or misread it, didn't you? Never mind.

[fastandfurryous]

screem said:

But within a few posts there were assumptions of lawsuits towards Mitsubishi, Accusations of lack of talent etc, etc, etc

Of course there were. You made a comment that blamed the car for the crash, and were clearly hoping that some other people would come along and say "yes, that happened to me too. There must be something wrong with the car"

Just for a moment, go and read http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... . Now substitute the car parked in the middle of the road in your story for the Fiesta in RUL's. Also, substitute the Civic in your story for the BMW in RUL's. Finally, substitute yourself for... well, I'm sure I don't have to be that specific.

.... and have a long hard think about it.

[WeirdNeville]

fastandfurryous said:

screem said:

But within a few posts there were assumptions of lawsuits towards Mitsubishi, Accusations of lack of talent etc, etc, etc

Of course there were. You made a comment that blamed the car for the crash, and were clearly hoping that some other people would come along and say "yes, that happened to me too. There must be something wrong with the car"

Just for a moment, go and read http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... . Now substitute the car parked in the middle of the road in your story for the Fiesta in RUL's. Also, substitute the Civic in your story for the BMW in RUL's. Finally, substitute yourself for... well, I'm sure I don't have to be that specific.

.... and have a long hard think about it.

Very well said.

[MilnerR]

To do that to an evo you must have been doing something pretty daft. I've pushed my scooby to the limit on a runway day and my arse was twitching long before the car was. Even when you do unstick them they still retain some level of control. This accident really must have been full on brakes, see-sawing steering input and eyes clamped shut to get that result. Congrats, you are proof that fancy 4WD systems can't replace talent and defensive driving.

[cptsideways]

Plenty of people run out of talent in such cars on a regular basis, its not uncommon, its the type of car thats easy to reach & go over the physical limit of.

Add in the unexpected of the public highway & you've a recipe for disaster, count yourself lucky your still alive.

[cheesesliceking]

In an attempt to actually answer the guys question & not just use the forum as an excuse to randomly hurl abuse at people..

Its sounds like weight transfer under braking, sent the back end light.. caused you to lose control. Possibly the quality of the road and weather may come into it..

glad nobody was injured.

[rsv gone!]

cheesesliceking said:

In an attempt to actually answer the guys question & not just use the forum as an excuse to randomly hurl abuse at people..

Its sounds like weight transfer under braking, sent the back end light.. caused you to lose control. Possibly the quality of the road and weather may come into it..

I said that in about my first or second post. He wasn't actually asking the cause of the accident. He was asking if anyone had ever had a similar crash.