Ace Cafe crash

[Discopotatoes]

Crossflow Kid said:

Not really no. I (and several others) still say the BMW not indicating had fk all to do with scooter boy coming off.
Scooterboy being a raging cockgobbler had everything to do with Scooterboy coming off.

Discopotatoes said:

"it may have made the biker slow down where he otherwise wouldn't" er exactly it would give him half a chance.

Not sure what you're getting at but I was referring to your hypothetical scenario, not scooterboy.

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Monday 6th October 03:29

so was i

[Dr Jekyll]

CaptainMorgan said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Indicating IS optional, not compulsory. In any case the car had priority so there is no way the driver would take half the blame even if the scooter rider wasn't doing a wheelie.

I must be mistaken then, I was fairly sure when I took my 3 tests I've done so far I had to indicate during them all, along with a recent accident at work where it was deemed afterwards to be caused by lack of indication but I must be dreaming it all.

You didn't have to indicate all the time during them all.



I didn't say indicating is illegal, I said it's optional. You are supposed to indicate when it will help or warn other road users. In the case of your accident at work then you took the wrong option.

Not that an accident can possibly be caused by not indicating.

[CBR JGWRR]

Discopotatoes said:

im not putting words in your mouth my point was if its on the car / bike its there for a reason.
not indicating is just fking lazy and ignorant to other road users. just because you think you know what your doing doesn't mean everyone else does

I do know what I am doing thank you, arguing with someone who clearly has English as a second language and therefore lacks the understanding of what someone wrote.

You've already acknowledged that an indicator only really matters to the person behind you, so why do you think using a flashing orange bulb is so important in this "Scooter bins wheelie into BMW" debacle?

[Cabinet Enforcer]

But for 30 seconds I could have been the driver involved in this very similar accident.

http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/v...

IIRC the pillion who was killed wasn't helmeted either. Scooterpleb was a lucky boy.

[SpeckledJim]

Discopotatoes said:

CBR JGWRR said:

Discopotatoes said:

exactly! the car should have given way but an indication would have given the biker a chance,

No, the car driver needs to not be a stupid idiot.

Discopotatoes said:

no need for insults.
so why have a test then? why not let everyone on the road who hasn't got a clue?
i agree the test is only a basic understanding of whats expected but as such its a level you shouldn't go below.

how are brake lights a different issue? they are bulbs that indicate your slowing down if we didn't have them how many more accidents would there be.
if you see someones brake lights come on in front of you, it causes you to react appropriately exactly the same as indicators.

Stop putting words in my mouth - what I said bears no relation to what you are twisting it to. I said you don't need to indicate, not brake lights should be removed.

im not putting words in your mouth my point was if its on the car / bike its there for a reason.
not indicating is just fking lazy and ignorant to other road users. just because you think you know what your doing doesn't mean everyone else does

Not indicating is indeed lazy and ignorant, but the rules of the road have been so designed so that wrong or incorrect indication, and/or not noticing an indication, will never ever cause an accident.

For an accident to happen, somebody has to make a mistake other than one of poor/incorrect/missing indication.

In this case, the mistake that caused the accident was failure to give way to traffic already on a roundabout.

[Reffro]

I regularly go to the Ace on a Friday. For months I have been waiting for one of the little tts on a scooter to get his comeuppance, so watching that video has made my day.

[Discopotatoes]

CBR JGWRR said:

Discopotatoes said:

im not putting words in your mouth my point was if its on the car / bike its there for a reason.
not indicating is just fking lazy and ignorant to other road users. just because you think you know what your doing doesn't mean everyone else does

I do know what I am doing thank you, arguing with someone who clearly has English as a second language and therefore lacks the understanding of what someone wrote.

You've already acknowledged that an indicator only really matters to the person behind you, so why do you think using a flashing orange bulb is so important in this "Scooter bins wheelie into BMW" debacle?

[CBR JGWRR]

Discopotatoes said:

You failure.

[Discopotatoes]

CBR JGWRR said:

Discopotatoes said:

You failure.

Your right in that English is obviously your second language, and all you've proven is that you're an arrogant prick who would argue black is white just to have it your way. So good luck not indicating!

[CBR JGWRR]

Discopotatoes said:

Your right in that English is obviously your second language, and all you've proven is that you're an arrogant prick who would argue black is white just to have it your way. So good luck not indicating!

3/10, not enough swearing and you still didn't understand what I wrote.