0-100-0
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slinky

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15,704 posts

265 months

Wednesday 8th September 2004
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I was thinking on the way home...

What would the bike 0-100-0 record be like?

If I understand it correctly, some bikes could probably hit 100 in 2nd(?? .. non biker here, run with me!) so 1 clutchless change up into second and hammer the stoppers..,

How long would it take? and would you need cajones the size of watermelons to give it a go?

cheers,

slinky

andygtt

8,345 posts

280 months

Wednesday 8th September 2004
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At the Autocar one I took part in in my Ultima, a fellow bike mag bought along a GSX-R 1000 as a benchmark and it did 0-100-0 in 11.01.
0-100 5.82 and 100-0 in 4.98 (0.21 reaction which was very quick).

cazzo

15,192 posts

283 months

Wednesday 8th September 2004
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IIRC MCN did a 0-100-0 test a while back. I think the fastest was a bit over 10 seconds, with the acceleration a tad quicker than the braking, however superbikes have moved on a bit so maybe slightly faster now.

Large Cajones required!



>> Edited by cazzo on Wednesday 8th September 22:06

Kwacker

633 posts

300 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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I'm sure I read in either the latest Ride or Bike mag that the new ZX10 can hit 100 in first. surely that will help your 0-100-0 time.

After reading that I decided that my license could never cope with one of those.

Kwacker

stooz

3,005 posts

300 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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100 in first. I believe thats the same on gixxer 1000's and yamaha R1's.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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Thats crazy. I want one

timbrown

108 posts

255 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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I'm fairly sure that most bikes need at least 2nd to get to 100mph ( on a closed road of course )
The tallest 1st gear for a road bike on standard gearing I know about was the RC30, which would just do 70mph in 1st ... but wasn't easy to launch because of the risk of killing the clutch

someone come on and update me/prove me wrong, I'm curious to know more

Tim

ps - exups and aces need 3rd to crack a ton, personal experience
( on the drag strip of course ! )

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

284 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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Thinks...must go out and find an appropriate place to see what a ZZR1200 will max out in first gear - purely for scientific research purposes you understand...

timbrown

108 posts

255 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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edited due to accidental duplication

>> Edited by timbrown on Thursday 9th September 11:07

rsvnigel

600 posts

282 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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Mon Ami Mate said:
Thinks...must go out and find an appropriate place to see what a ZZR1200 will max out in first gear
You mean you don't already know?

As an aside, the digital speedo on the mille has a slight delay so when really nailing it in 1st it'll show 45mph at the limiter, and does the same in second, showing 70mph.

iguana

7,197 posts

276 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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timbrown said:
The tallest 1st gear for a road bike on standard gearing I know about was the RC30, which would just do 70mph in 1st ...

someone come on and update me/prove me wrong, I'm curious to know more


Certainly some modern 1000cc sports bikes do outclass that by some way & some are defo 90mph in 1st machines.

Not got any figures to hand at the mo, so not sure if any production bike (with standard sprockets) will crack a genuine 100 in 1st, (seem to recall the journos on the ZX10 launch saying over 90 in 1st!) so if not 100 its flippin' close.

Would a gear change on a bike make that much dif to the time tho? a fraction of a second id have thought.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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Im not going to try it on my old Bandit - them exhaust bolts are £2.50 a throw


stooz

3,005 posts

300 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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The new R1::

Like the Kawasaki ZX-10R, the figures are cartoon absurd: an identical 106mph in first gear and a top speed electronically restricted to 185mph, 0-60mph in about 2·5 seconds and so on.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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<beavis and butthead>

hehehe keeeeewl

</beavis>

rsvmille

713 posts

254 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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Just checked in Bike mag ZX10

0-100 =5,81
100-0 =4,53

0-100-0 =10,34

you then should add a reaction time....
The biggest limiting factor in this for a bike is the foot print of the front tyre whilst on the brakes. Of course you're only on the back tyre whilst accelerating which of course means you loose the front gyroscope which in turn means when you go from full power 100mph wheelie to full power 100mph stoppie you have a wobble for a moment.....A real worring 0.1 of a sec.

RichardD

3,608 posts

261 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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Think the limiting factors are wheelies on acceleration and keeping the back wheel down under braking. Hence longer bikes would be better in this particular test! Then you get in the situation where the best 0-100-0 machine is useless at cornering.

Bikes can't brake as suddenly as cars since there is more weight transfer, there is a small delay as the weight shifts to the front under braking and full force can be applied.

Well this is what I gathered when I read the article in the last Autocar!

andygtt

8,345 posts

280 months

Saturday 11th September 2004
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rsvmille said:
Just checked in Bike mag ZX10

0-100 =5,81
100-0 =4,53

0-100-0 =10,34

you then should add a reaction time....


you can't do separate 0-100 and 100-0 times and then stitch them together for a realistic 0-100-0 time..... as braking from a steady 100mph is very different from braking after the extremally hard acceleration we are talking about.