GDPR - anyone working in this area?

GDPR - anyone working in this area?

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Europa1

10,923 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Bikerjon said:
Only yesterday I was asked by a new customer if I was "fully GDPR compliant". My slightly snappy response was that unless there is a proper recognised accreditation, how can anyone truly say they are fully GDPR compliant? I'm not sure they were too impressed, but it's the truth isn't it?
Yep; you could quote Elizabeth Denham, the Information Commissioner: "We're not going to be looking at perfection, we're going to be looking for commitment."

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Bikerjon said:
Only yesterday I was asked by a new customer if I was "fully GDPR compliant". My slightly snappy response was that unless there is a proper recognised accreditation, how can anyone truly say they are fully GDPR compliant? I'm not sure they were too impressed, but it's the truth isn't it?
No.
You are either compliant or not.

Are you?

Europa1

10,923 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Why?

I don't mind them having my data and I bet I am not alone.
Really?

As social media becomes ever more pervasive, coupled to the development of the internet of things, what do you think is your most valuable asset? What do the likes of organisations who advertise on Facebook think Facebook's most valuable asset is?

Frimley111R

15,725 posts

236 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Eric Mc said:
I've been getting loads of e-mails from organsations telling me that they have updated their privacy policy. Thanks for letting me know and all but, why are they doing this? What do they think they are achieving?
They don't know, most have no idea what they should be doing, it's as complete clusterfk. The emails I have had had been massively different. Despite the best intentions of GDPR its been a total waste of time and money for most businesses

Hoofy

76,681 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Frimley111R said:
Eric Mc said:
I've been getting loads of e-mails from organsations telling me that they have updated their privacy policy. Thanks for letting me know and all but, why are they doing this? What do they think they are achieving?
They don't know, most have no idea what they should be doing, it's as complete clusterfk. The emails I have had had been massively different. Despite the best intentions of GDPR its been a total waste of time and money for most businesses
Yep. A lot of my small business associates are running scared. It's unnecessary stress and wasting time.

Hoofy

76,681 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Bikerjon said:
Only yesterday I was asked by a new customer if I was "fully GDPR compliant". My slightly snappy response was that unless there is a proper recognised accreditation, how can anyone truly say they are fully GDPR compliant? I'm not sure they were too impressed, but it's the truth isn't it?
I would have just replied, "Of course, we respect your privacy and take it seriously." Anything else could get some smart arse or troublemaker making things annoying for you in some way.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Hoofy said:
I would have just replied, "Of course, we respect your privacy and take it seriously." Anything else could get some smart arse or troublemaker making things annoying for you in some way.
Exactly. Do this and compliance heaven awaits.

williamp

19,328 posts

275 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Our NHS trust is GDPReady. Quite a relief as I am the person responsible! An epic amount of policies and procedures re written, contracts agreed and long hours.

Sheepshanks

33,209 posts

121 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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williamp said:
Our NHS trust is GDPReady. Quite a relief as I am the person responsible! An epic amount of policies and procedures re written, contracts agreed and long hours.
You didn't mention training!

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

249 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Looks like some companies are starting to realise that they’ve sent out the wrong message stating that they are deleting your records unless you specifically click to opt in when effectively you’ve already agreed to receiving the odd email. I’m guessing they’ve realised that they’re competitors aren’t slitting their wrists in the name of GDPR so why should they......

Far more emails are now saying that they’ve tightened their policies and procedures with our privacy in mind and they will continue to regard you as a customer that wants a service unless you use the link to opt out, not in.

Hoofy

76,681 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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"We are required by law to send this out today" relating to the new PP. BS, right?

With the worry from businesses over what's what, I have been replying to the every PP/GDPR email this evening saying that they've done it wrong and need to find a new GDPR consultant. biggrin

Since they're wasting my time, they can waste more time reading the ICO website again wondering if they've done it wrong or not.

Hoofy

76,681 posts

284 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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TTmonkey said:
Looks like some companies are starting to realise that they’ve sent out the wrong message stating that they are deleting your records unless you specifically click to opt in when effectively you’ve already agreed to receiving the odd email. I’m guessing they’ve realised that they’re competitors aren’t slitting their wrists in the name of GDPR so why should they......

Far more emails are now saying that they’ve tightened their policies and procedures with our privacy in mind and they will continue to regard you as a customer that wants a service unless you use the link to opt out, not in.
As long as they can 100% without a doubt, definitely, confidently with no uncertainty, guarantee that all of the people on their list definitely 100% certainly did opt to receive regular messages. And they can prove it. (Unlike a couple of businesses for whom I am certain I did not sign up to regular updates/newsletters but received their updated PP announcement!) And in that case, no need to spam your potential customers with the same message that every other fker is sending out.

Tuna

19,930 posts

286 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Europa1 said:
Really?

As social media becomes ever more pervasive, coupled to the development of the internet of things, what do you think is your most valuable asset? What do the likes of organisations who advertise on Facebook think Facebook's most valuable asset is?
By the same logic, organisations that advertise on TV think TV's most valuable asset is the viewers. So we should be paid to watch TV - we are the asset!

It doesn't work that way. Facebook and Google etc. have generated value by aggregating user behaviour. The value is in the aggregation, the processing and the analysis, not in the individual histories of users. They make money by acting as brokers to millions of businesses. You cannot sell your data to millions of businesses because you don't have the infrastructure to do so.

This is a deliberate confusion by some commentators. They want to overthrow the dominance by corporate America in this space, which involves cutting off the air supply to those companies. In that sense GDPR has been hijacked - for some it's not just about the security and audit of data your data, but about controlling the market of data itself. It's a very statist view of the world. This is not for the benefit of the consumer at all.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Europa1 said:
Really?

As social media becomes ever more pervasive, coupled to the development of the internet of things, what do you think is your most valuable asset? What do the likes of organisations who advertise on Facebook think Facebook's most valuable asset is?
I don't use social media.

I do use an ad blocker.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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GDPR by Don Beech, on Flickr

Is this really necessary?

It had to be completed to access the site.

jonamv8

3,165 posts

168 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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williamp said:
Our NHS trust is GDPReady. Quite a relief as I am the person responsible! An epic amount of policies and procedures re written, contracts agreed and long hours.
Great so loads of dough spent but any lives saved?? any illnesses treated? what a waste of time effort and money... STANDARD NHS.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Just looked at the spam filter again.

Now getting these:

Don't Let This Be The End

We're sorry to see you go

Don't Miss Your Chance At £100 In Vouchers!

laugh

eliot

11,534 posts

256 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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jonamv8 said:
Great so loads of dough spent but any lives saved?? any illnesses treated? what a waste of time effort and money... STANDARD NHS.
That’s a bit harsh - it’s forced upon them and everyone else.

p1stonhead

25,827 posts

169 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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This is great. Ive had hundreds of emails over the last week asking me to opt in to all of the junk mail I never wanted but also couldnt be bothered to figure out how to stop. Goodbyeeeeee.

DoubleSix

11,750 posts

178 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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I occasionally give seminars.

At the end I hand out feedback forms where individuals write their contact details if they would like to discuss their personal situation in more detail. This information is only uploaded to a database if the individual becomes a client otherwise the form will end up in the shredder.

I’ve done some digging but am still not 100% what sort of action I need to take.

Anyone perhaps have some insight?

Many thanks