iPhone (what else...)
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Vipers said:
Noger said:
Was always on the look out for a Violet !Or there was the Capacitance Triangle. Queen Victoria's C***
Edited by Noger on Tuesday 13th November 11:37
_Lee_ said:
Anyway after more playing with a friends iphone I think it's a top device!
The device is far from perfect but what it does well, it does really, really well!
I hope the 2nd revision comes with a better camera/3g etc and then I'm sold!
It should have 3G - it was dropped due to battery life being rubbish. Once they get a lower power 3G chip or better battery, it'll be in.The device is far from perfect but what it does well, it does really, really well!
I hope the 2nd revision comes with a better camera/3g etc and then I'm sold!
No idea about the camera though. Question for all - how many have ever wanted to use their phones camera for good quality pics? Personally if i want 5mp I use my Canon Ixus which produces much better results than any camera phone could.
I've just changed my phone to a k850i (free Orange upgrade) and I have to say that the quality of the camera is staggering for a phone.
Don't like what they've done to the user interface, compared to my old 750 though, those "touch screen" buttons are a bit hit and miss and the Select/Enter is ergonomically in the wrong place. And you can't change the shortcut menu for the "touch screen" buttons. And there's no screen-saver clock like the old 750. Apart from that it's pretty good.
Don't like what they've done to the user interface, compared to my old 750 though, those "touch screen" buttons are a bit hit and miss and the Select/Enter is ergonomically in the wrong place. And you can't change the shortcut menu for the "touch screen" buttons. And there's no screen-saver clock like the old 750. Apart from that it's pretty good.
I thought that the N95 had a 5MP camera....
Some of the Asian phones are up to 7MP and beyond! Staggering really. Though have to say, nothing beats a purpose built camera for quality. Phones are getting close, but a decent camera from one of the leading brands will still beat a phone - well for the moment at least.
Oh, and yes, the camera on the iPhone is crap....
Some of the Asian phones are up to 7MP and beyond! Staggering really. Though have to say, nothing beats a purpose built camera for quality. Phones are getting close, but a decent camera from one of the leading brands will still beat a phone - well for the moment at least.
Oh, and yes, the camera on the iPhone is crap....
jimothy said:
Vipers said:
Noger said:
Was always on the look out for a Violet !Or there was the Capacitance Triangle. Queen Victoria's C***
Edited by Noger on Tuesday 13th November 11:37
_Lee_ said:
Anyway after more playing with a friends iphone I think it's a top device!
The device is far from perfect but what it does well, it does really, really well!
I hope the 2nd revision comes with a better camera/3g etc and then I'm sold!
It should have 3G - it was dropped due to battery life being rubbish. Once they get a lower power 3G chip or better battery, it'll be in.The device is far from perfect but what it does well, it does really, really well!
I hope the 2nd revision comes with a better camera/3g etc and then I'm sold!
No idea about the camera though. Question for all - how many have ever wanted to use their phones camera for good quality pics? Personally if i want 5mp I use my Canon Ixus which produces much better results than any camera phone could.
As it happens I wanted a good quality camera phone and bought a K850i (5mp) because it produces very good results for a phone. It's a reliable smart looking phone that takes very good pictures.
off_again said:
I thought that the N95 had a 5MP camera....
Some of the Asian phones are up to 7MP and beyond! Staggering really. Though have to say, nothing beats a purpose built camera for quality. Phones are getting close, but a decent camera from one of the leading brands will still beat a phone - well for the moment at least.
Oh, and yes, the camera on the iPhone is crap....
The N95 does have a 5mp camera, it just lacks a proper flash and the picture processing isn't as good as the K850i (5mp) or even the K800 (3.2mp). It does however have a staggering amount of functionality. Some of the Asian phones are up to 7MP and beyond! Staggering really. Though have to say, nothing beats a purpose built camera for quality. Phones are getting close, but a decent camera from one of the leading brands will still beat a phone - well for the moment at least.
Oh, and yes, the camera on the iPhone is crap....
The iphones camera is fairly poor but lets cut apple some slack and say it's their first phone and they will probably do better in the next version.
Got bored (off work this week and supposed to be decorating) and popped in to look at the iPhone forum on the o2 site. Then decided to tootle off and take a look at some other sites about the iPhone.
My god, why do people get so worked up about it? Its just a phone. Top favourites at the moment are about the 18 month contract (if you don't like it then dont bother), the lack of forwarding of SMS messages and the fact you need an iTunes account (and you cannot manage the music manually).
Its as if someone has mugged them and stolen all of their cash - its only a damn phone! Jeez, why do people get so worked up and then spend hours slagging off a phone because they cannot forward and SMS message. Surely we all have better things to do with our time?
Then again, I guess not
My god, why do people get so worked up about it? Its just a phone. Top favourites at the moment are about the 18 month contract (if you don't like it then dont bother), the lack of forwarding of SMS messages and the fact you need an iTunes account (and you cannot manage the music manually).
Its as if someone has mugged them and stolen all of their cash - its only a damn phone! Jeez, why do people get so worked up and then spend hours slagging off a phone because they cannot forward and SMS message. Surely we all have better things to do with our time?
Then again, I guess not
ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
What's it like to type on? I've got a BlackBerry at the moment and that's not bad at all.
The iphone or k850i?The iphone is ok with the virtual keyboard (although I'm not a fan of it).
The k850i is fine and the buttons work well.
The blackberry's have both of them licked though.
_Lee_ said:
ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
What's it like to type on? I've got a BlackBerry at the moment and that's not bad at all.
The iphone or k850i?The iphone is ok with the virtual keyboard (although I'm not a fan of it).
The k850i is fine and the buttons work well.
The blackberry's have both of them licked though.
Oh and the other top tip is when using the shift/punctuation key to change the keys to uppercase or punctuation/symbols - if you only need the one uppercase letter or symbol, click the shift key but don't let go and instead drag you finger to the required letter/symbol. The letter will be entered and when you take your finger off the keyboard will revert back to lowercase letters.
_Lee_ said:
off_again said:
I thought that the N95 had a 5MP camera....
Some of the Asian phones are up to 7MP and beyond! Staggering really. Though have to say, nothing beats a purpose built camera for quality. Phones are getting close, but a decent camera from one of the leading brands will still beat a phone - well for the moment at least.
Oh, and yes, the camera on the iPhone is crap....
The N95 does have a 5mp camera, it just lacks a proper flash and the picture processing isn't as good as the K850i (5mp) or even the K800 (3.2mp). It does however have a staggering amount of functionality. Some of the Asian phones are up to 7MP and beyond! Staggering really. Though have to say, nothing beats a purpose built camera for quality. Phones are getting close, but a decent camera from one of the leading brands will still beat a phone - well for the moment at least.
Oh, and yes, the camera on the iPhone is crap....
The iphones camera is fairly poor but lets cut apple some slack and say it's their first phone and they will probably do better in the next version.
New SE/cybershot phone = no lens cover, not tried music on one but not usually good on the cybershot phone as it isn't a walkman phone and Sony dont seem to like doing one device for all. Sony product so probably comes with a rootkit that automatically issues a copywright lawsuit if you sing in the shower too loud.
_Lee_ said:
The rumor mill has suggested the lack of a 3g chip has nothing to do with battery life but due to the fact the phone was developed for the american market where this is no real 3g.
The rumour mill is talking out of its arse again then mate. Most US cities have pretty good 3G coverage - I helped install, configure, optimise and debug a fair chunk of it in my previous role.Mr E said:
_Lee_ said:
The rumor mill has suggested the lack of a 3g chip has nothing to do with battery life but due to the fact the phone was developed for the american market where this is no real 3g.
The rumour mill is talking out of its arse again then mate. Most US cities have pretty good 3G coverage - I helped install, configure, optimise and debug a fair chunk of it in my previous role.Look at the internals of an iPhone. It's all battery, and about 6 chips on a small double layer motherboard. It's NOT an expensive, sophisticated device. The hardware is unsophisticated and cheap (apart from that touchscreen) - what sets the iPhone apart is the software. All the sophistication is in software...
Found out I can upgrade for free just paying the iPhone charge with no penalty on my current contract - which is nice 
However, the tarriff's they provide for iPhone are a bit restrictive aren't they? £35 for 200 mins/texts or £45 for 600 mins/500 texts - bit of a jump!
Only thing stopping me at the moment!!
However, the tarriff's they provide for iPhone are a bit restrictive aren't they? £35 for 200 mins/texts or £45 for 600 mins/500 texts - bit of a jump!
Only thing stopping me at the moment!!It is a bit of both I guess. 3G hasn't been taken up that widely by the US networks. They appear to be concentrating more on the UMA implementation. Certainly T-mobile have released UMA before 3G in the USA.
Also it would not have just had to be 3G, but HSDPA as well. More cost and less battery life one imagines. Although I am firmly of the opinion that 3G in itself is not that much of a battery killer, it is the lack of a decent signal as well.
Whilst it might seem that I am doing the "typical Apple user" stereotype, I think it is a reasonable thing to say that the majority of early iPhone adopters are not going to miss 3G that much. Now and again it is great, I just downloaded the latest version of Google Maps whilst on the move. On GPRS it would have taken all lunchtime. But to be honest for most email, GPRS is fine. How much surfing does the average person do whilst on the bus etc.
This does not of course mean that it won't hurt in the long run.
Already TomTom is increasing its data requirements beyond that of GPRS abilty, and this will only continue. For me SatNav is one the the "killer" apps on a PDA. But I do realise that it is not for everyone.
It just depends what the "next big thing" for mobiles is. If it is heavily data/mobilty dependant, then lack of 3G will not look so good.
Interesting that in Japan, THE thing to be doing on your mobile is Instant Messaging with all of your chums. And you only have to look at the amount of MMS / Video that is being use in the news to see how that is growing.
Also it would not have just had to be 3G, but HSDPA as well. More cost and less battery life one imagines. Although I am firmly of the opinion that 3G in itself is not that much of a battery killer, it is the lack of a decent signal as well.
Whilst it might seem that I am doing the "typical Apple user" stereotype, I think it is a reasonable thing to say that the majority of early iPhone adopters are not going to miss 3G that much. Now and again it is great, I just downloaded the latest version of Google Maps whilst on the move. On GPRS it would have taken all lunchtime. But to be honest for most email, GPRS is fine. How much surfing does the average person do whilst on the bus etc.
This does not of course mean that it won't hurt in the long run.
Already TomTom is increasing its data requirements beyond that of GPRS abilty, and this will only continue. For me SatNav is one the the "killer" apps on a PDA. But I do realise that it is not for everyone.
It just depends what the "next big thing" for mobiles is. If it is heavily data/mobilty dependant, then lack of 3G will not look so good.
Interesting that in Japan, THE thing to be doing on your mobile is Instant Messaging with all of your chums. And you only have to look at the amount of MMS / Video that is being use in the news to see how that is growing.
justlivyalife said:
Found out I can upgrade for free just paying the iPhone charge with no penalty on my current contract - which is nice
However, the tarriff's they provide for iPhone are a bit restrictive aren't they? £35 for 200 mins/texts or £45 for 600 mins/500 texts - bit of a jump! Only thing stopping me at the moment!!
The tariff is one thing that's giving me cause to pause. 35 quid a month for minutes and texts I absolutely will not use up (I'm on a Flex-T 35 tariff at the moment and only ever scratch the surface of the allowance) is a lot, even given the bit I would use (data and wifi).However, the tarriff's they provide for iPhone are a bit restrictive aren't they? £35 for 200 mins/texts or £45 for 600 mins/500 texts - bit of a jump!
Only thing stopping me at the moment!!If they did a "no mates" tariff that was good on data and light on minutes/texts, I'd be attracted to it.
Just found this:
http://www.dialaphone.co.uk/blog/?p=751
Bitter? Nah, surely not....
Worth a read for the sheer brilliance of stating the bleeding obvious and missing the point.
And clearly he's pissed at not being able to sell the iPhone
http://www.dialaphone.co.uk/blog/?p=751
Bitter? Nah, surely not....
Worth a read for the sheer brilliance of stating the bleeding obvious and missing the point.
And clearly he's pissed at not being able to sell the iPhone
off_again said:
Just found this:
http://www.dialaphone.co.uk/blog/?p=751
Bitter? Nah, surely not....
Worth a read for the sheer brilliance of stating the bleeding obvious and missing the point.
And clearly he's pissed at not being able to sell the iPhone
http://www.dialaphone.co.uk/blog/?p=751
Bitter? Nah, surely not....
Worth a read for the sheer brilliance of stating the bleeding obvious and missing the point.
And clearly he's pissed at not being able to sell the iPhone
This particularly tickled me...
blog said said:
11. No Internet Explore or Firefox, you have to use Safari – I’ve never used Safari but I’ve heard that Firefox is better.
Sorry but with comments like that, I stopped reading, filed under 'not to be taken seriously' The iPhone is weak in a lot of areas, but as a mobile web browser it's one of the best!
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