Apple Vision Pro
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I too struggle to see this concept ever becoming mainstream, outside of niche gaming and specific uses in industry.
However I think this is the best chance anyone has of making it work. Apple understand the need for the platform to exist first if it does. They have some form on this front!
However I think this is the best chance anyone has of making it work. Apple understand the need for the platform to exist first if it does. They have some form on this front!
Just watched the Apple video, it does look to be an impressive piece of technology, if it can do everything they say it can it's a huge leap forward in innovation and what VR/AR can provide.
However, I just don't see a market for it, certainly not at this price point. I cannot see a company investing in these for it's workers when they could continue to use a laptop/desktop for a fraction of the price. Likewise, you'd have to really want one to shell out that amount of money for a personal one, I guess there's a very VERY niche market for a certain type of techno geek that would love this.
It is however a great leap forward, maybe v4 onwards could be the moment, too expensive, big, limited battery are the things that will stall this version.
On another note, Vision "Pro", the "Pro" bit makes me think they'll just be a cheaper Vision version at some point with less features/capability.
However, I just don't see a market for it, certainly not at this price point. I cannot see a company investing in these for it's workers when they could continue to use a laptop/desktop for a fraction of the price. Likewise, you'd have to really want one to shell out that amount of money for a personal one, I guess there's a very VERY niche market for a certain type of techno geek that would love this.
It is however a great leap forward, maybe v4 onwards could be the moment, too expensive, big, limited battery are the things that will stall this version.
On another note, Vision "Pro", the "Pro" bit makes me think they'll just be a cheaper Vision version at some point with less features/capability.
Frik said:
I too struggle to see this concept ever becoming mainstream, outside of niche gaming and specific uses in industry.
However I think this is the best chance anyone has of making it work. Apple understand the need for the platform to exist first if it does. They have some form on this front!
Apple have too much cash, it makes you lazy and arrogant. Google tried and failed. It isn't really innovative as well, just old ideas rehashed. As Facebook found even 100 billion gets you no where. A disrupter with a totally new system will win, this is just very expensive dust gathers. Yes the fanboys will lap it up for socials.However I think this is the best chance anyone has of making it work. Apple understand the need for the platform to exist first if it does. They have some form on this front!
otolith said:
I think the thing with markets for this kind of tech is that they aren't created by affordable but disappointing products, they're created by the devices that people want but can't afford - people settle for a device they wouldn't have bought if the thing they really want didn't exist.
That's an interesting observation... Sort of like how hot hatches are an affordable way to get a decent portion of the performance of a supercar for an order of magnitude less cost.At risk of starting an argument with the Apple faithful, whenever I've started looking at 1st Gen Apple products, they seem mostly to be the equivalent of Ferrari money for Ford Fiesta ST performance (arguably with some nice design). There have been some notable exceptions, for instance I seem to recall the Intel powered Mac Pros were actually very good value compared to similarly specd PCs, but on this headset your £3k is largely going on Apple's R&D to achieve what Meta/Oculus have already achieved. In a couple of generations I'm sure the price will be more reasonable - in the 2000's Apple phones were a bit of a corporate status symbol if your employer gave you one, but these days they're "just a phone" for the bean counters.
I honestly see this as been the biggest flop in history.
Who in their right mind has almost £3k to blow on something as niche as this??
Ok, I get PS VR, and Oculus to a degree, but they're under £500 and people will buy them on a whim and to 'try' it. Or even get them for xmas/birthdays.
But £3,000 is more than most people earn in a month (on average salary etc), and I really don't know how many people (who can afford something like this) would actually want one?
I love Apple products generally......but I see flop written all over this.
Who in their right mind has almost £3k to blow on something as niche as this??
Ok, I get PS VR, and Oculus to a degree, but they're under £500 and people will buy them on a whim and to 'try' it. Or even get them for xmas/birthdays.
But £3,000 is more than most people earn in a month (on average salary etc), and I really don't know how many people (who can afford something like this) would actually want one?
I love Apple products generally......but I see flop written all over this.
This is what Microsoft HoloLens should have been specs wise. Can’t see it going mainstream in business on the Apple platform though and too expensive for home. Still the non “pro” version might well come out next year when devs have done apps for it and at iPhone level prices it might just take off.
audi321 said:
I honestly see this as been the biggest flop in history.
Who in their right mind has almost £3k to blow on something as niche as this??
Ok, I get PS VR, and Oculus to a degree, but they're under £500 and people will buy them on a whim and to 'try' it. Or even get them for xmas/birthdays.
But £3,000 is more than most people earn in a month (on average salary etc), and I really don't know how many people (who can afford something like this) would actually want one?
I love Apple products generally......but I see flop written all over this.
I love tech and toys but I can't see any killer app built in just enhancement of existing things and a few fluffy useless its round the edge. Who in their right mind has almost £3k to blow on something as niche as this??
Ok, I get PS VR, and Oculus to a degree, but they're under £500 and people will buy them on a whim and to 'try' it. Or even get them for xmas/birthdays.
But £3,000 is more than most people earn in a month (on average salary etc), and I really don't know how many people (who can afford something like this) would actually want one?
I love Apple products generally......but I see flop written all over this.
audi321 said:
I honestly see this as been the biggest flop in history.
Who in their right mind has almost £3k to blow on something as niche as this??
Ok, I get PS VR, and Oculus to a degree, but they're under £500 and people will buy them on a whim and to 'try' it. Or even get them for xmas/birthdays.
But £3,000 is more than most people earn in a month (on average salary etc), and I really don't know how many people (who can afford something like this) would actually want one?
I love Apple products generally......but I see flop written all over this.
Plenty of people can easily afford to drop £3.5k on some tech, in a similar way as people have £80k to spend on a car, or £5k on a bike, £10k on a holiday, £2.5 on a MacBook pro etc. There are plenty of people with money out there.Who in their right mind has almost £3k to blow on something as niche as this??
Ok, I get PS VR, and Oculus to a degree, but they're under £500 and people will buy them on a whim and to 'try' it. Or even get them for xmas/birthdays.
But £3,000 is more than most people earn in a month (on average salary etc), and I really don't know how many people (who can afford something like this) would actually want one?
I love Apple products generally......but I see flop written all over this.
Since when has apple products been for the low income masses?
Jiebo said:
Plenty of people can easily afford to drop £3.5k on some tech, in a similar way as people have £80k to spend on a car, or £5k on a bike, £10k on a holiday, £2.5 on a MacBook pro etc. There are plenty of people with money out there.
A regular Apple product is an upgrade, to some, of something you need anyway. Even if it's extravagant you're going to get a whole lot of use out of it and many others will buy it off you eventually. This... isn't.
Let’s not forget that the iPhone was widely predicted to be a flop due to its high price most memorably
https://youtu.be/eywi0h_Y5_U
It’s not for me as it stands but I’m sure plenty of people will be able to “make the numbers work” in particular regular travellers. This would make a long flight or train commute fly by. I can’t see many people using them on the tube but on a plane or intercity train, why not?
Depending on the experience and apps developed watching films, concerts and sports could also be big drivers for sales.
And the price - let’s resort to the old salesman’s trick - it’s a tenner a day over a year - or a coffee and sandwich from Pret or a pint and bag of crisps. If the product is compelling enough people will find a way to justify it.
I suppose we won’t know for certain until we’ve had a chance to strap one to our heads ourselves…
https://youtu.be/eywi0h_Y5_U
It’s not for me as it stands but I’m sure plenty of people will be able to “make the numbers work” in particular regular travellers. This would make a long flight or train commute fly by. I can’t see many people using them on the tube but on a plane or intercity train, why not?
Depending on the experience and apps developed watching films, concerts and sports could also be big drivers for sales.
And the price - let’s resort to the old salesman’s trick - it’s a tenner a day over a year - or a coffee and sandwich from Pret or a pint and bag of crisps. If the product is compelling enough people will find a way to justify it.
I suppose we won’t know for certain until we’ve had a chance to strap one to our heads ourselves…
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