Apps - at what point is enough enough?
Discussion
captain_cynic said:
LeeM135i said:
Currently in Australia and New Zealand for work and needed multiple apps for visas / pre flight information / Covid / check in etc etc.
The in laws are thinking of travelling to NZ to visit family either this year or next and I don’t think the can do it, neither are tech savvy and only have 1 smart phone between them.
I've been meaning to go back to Oz since 2020 to see family... I think I'll keep putting it off. The in laws are thinking of travelling to NZ to visit family either this year or next and I don’t think the can do it, neither are tech savvy and only have 1 smart phone between them.
I've been on holiday 3 times since the start of the pandemic.. well since Dec 2020 and not required a single app. Everything was either online via a web form and tied to my ticket/passport or a PDF if I needed a copy to show someone. More often both.
You can always count on the Australian government to make things 20 times harder than they need to be.
otolith said:
CoolHands said:
Yeah parking apps are the worst, but when you’re on holiday in cornwall you need the various ones who own different car parks so you’re forced into it. Then they all sell / use your data to each other etc
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Worst case it's a car park with no sodding phone signal and you can't even install the bloody thing (I'm looking at you, National Trust Studland Bay car park)s
Reliance on smartphones is really getting bad now. I posted a comment up on Reddit the other day as they were all exclaiming how awful a pub was that said 'no computers or mobile devices in this pub' and I said 'what's wrong with it? Just go to one of the other thousands of pubs if you don't like it' and the replies were 'LOL yeah right so how do you check film times or train times in there lolz idiot' etc. They couldn't even countenance a situation you could survive without having your phone tightly gripped in your hand. Very sad.
otolith said:
bad company said:
I can’t understand why anyone pay 5 for the privilege of having the Go Outdoors app.
As others have said too many apps now.
That’s a weird choice by them, they could surely just replace the 5 membership card with a 5 electronic ticket to go on your phone’s wallet?As others have said too many apps now.
otolith said:
bad company said:
I’m dammed if I’d pay for them to send me marketing stuff. Only 5 but ridiculous imo.
You pay a fiver for membership but then get a discount on purchases - I’ve had more than the fiver back on one item before. bad company said:
otolith said:
bad company said:
I’m dammed if I’d pay for them to send me marketing stuff. Only 5 but ridiculous imo.
You pay a fiver for membership but then get a discount on purchases - I’ve had more than the fiver back on one item before. Sometimes the discount is about brining in the punters.
robsa said:
This is one of my absolute hates - car parking apps and electric car charge point apps. sttily written apps, usually just a frame for their web page, full of bugs and ridiculous password requirements (you know they're ridiculous if they won't accept an Apple suggested strong password) and no data signal. Often they also change ownership every couple of years so, yep, now you need to download another app.
Reliance on smartphones is really getting bad now. I posted a comment up on Reddit the other day as they were all exclaiming how awful a pub was that said 'no computers or mobile devices in this pub' and I said 'what's wrong with it? Just go to one of the other thousands of pubs if you don't like it' and the replies were 'LOL yeah right so how do you check film times or train times in there lolz idiot' etc. They couldn't even countenance a situation you could survive without having your phone tightly gripped in your hand. Very sad.
Where is this pub. I need to go there. Must be crazy, people might talk to each other.Reliance on smartphones is really getting bad now. I posted a comment up on Reddit the other day as they were all exclaiming how awful a pub was that said 'no computers or mobile devices in this pub' and I said 'what's wrong with it? Just go to one of the other thousands of pubs if you don't like it' and the replies were 'LOL yeah right so how do you check film times or train times in there lolz idiot' etc. They couldn't even countenance a situation you could survive without having your phone tightly gripped in your hand. Very sad.
RobbieTheTruth said:
monkfish1 said:
ecsrobin said:
monkfish1 said:
An no, i wont have a ticket on my phone. The whole phone/app thing is WAY to unreliable, and frankly, beyond my abilkity to risk rocking up at a station or airport, reliant on nothing other than my phone.
Tried it once on a ryan air flight. That was an unmitigated disater which i still prefer not to think about.
The biggest issue with it all, if there is a problem, there is NO help available. whatever goes wrong or doesnt work, is YOUR problem. And it almost always doesnt work.
I’d suggest this is user error. Tried it once on a ryan air flight. That was an unmitigated disater which i still prefer not to think about.
The biggest issue with it all, if there is a problem, there is NO help available. whatever goes wrong or doesnt work, is YOUR problem. And it almost always doesnt work.
I haven’t had a physical ticket for anything in at least 4+ years but probably more (except for the local theatre last month).
Train a couple of times a month for the last few years all booked on Trainline either prior to departure or as I walk to the station. Scan the QR code on my watch and the barriers open every time without fail. Guard on the train wants my ticket phone out show them and scanned (my railcards on my phone so don’t use the watch for that).
Flights to Austria this year all boarded the flight using phone I had everyone’s (7persons) tickets and just swiped across plus everyone’s covid passes again no issues, that’s been the same for the past few years of flying.
Theatre since covid is QR codes works first time every time.
As per my last sentance, if it doesnt work, or doesnt make sense, there is no solution. There are invariably no instructions or guides. No one to ask. You are just left to it.
The whole thing relies on having a greater level of understanding than i actually have. If i went to a restaurant and i had to order on an app, leaving aside id refuse, where do you download it from? How do you find that? How do you do that on your phone. How do you "install". These might be second nature to you, but to some of us its a complete mystery.
I managed to install "absolute 80's radio" onto my phone once. Its never worked, ive no idea why or how to resolve.
You're saying you can't get to the shops, because booking a train ticket online and having the ticket sent to your email is beyond your ability - then I suggest you educate yourself and learn how to do it.
Assuming i fought my way through booking a flight on my phone, as per my first post, im now totally reliant on my phone to get where im going. I have zero confidence in it, nor my ability to find whatever it is i need to show come the moment its needed. Piece of paper in my pocket cant and doesnt go wrong.
I see people paying for stuff on a phone. I have absolutely zero idea how thats done.
I had a chap who worked for me set up work emails on my phone so they were synched with work. One day they stopped working. Why? Who knows. Chap has left. What do i do now? If you understand this stuff, great, if you dont, tough luck.
CoolHands said:
Yeah parking apps are the worst, but when you’re on holiday in cornwall you need the various ones who own different car parks so you’re forced into it. Then they all sell / use your data to each other etc
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Car park at the bottom by St Ives, I was there for work, app needed to pay, no alternative but.......s
No frigging signal.
I too am sick of having to sign up and register just to buy something, and ordering on the phone once in the actual restaurant.....go FO!
My daughters 64gb iphone was getting low on memory yesterday. So we had a look and quite a few gb was from apps. One had nearly 1gb on its own! Like a virus. Got her to delete loads of old ones which made a decent dent (I think around 4gb). Also had a large amount of gb she had ‘downloaded’ from youtube, about 400 songs/videos!
Reclaimed over 10gb
Reclaimed over 10gb
croyde said:
CoolHands said:
Yeah parking apps are the worst, but when you’re on holiday in cornwall you need the various ones who own different car parks so you’re forced into it. Then they all sell / use your data to each other etc
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Car park at the bottom by St Ives, I was there for work, app needed to pay, no alternative but.......s
No frigging signal.
Or you can simply pay later when you do have signal, for less time and save some money. You can guarantee that a carpark that's stripping costs like that isn't paying for enforcement either.
paulrockliffe said:
Why? Just don't pay, if they hunt you down, tell them why and move on.
Or you can simply pay later when you do have signal, for less time and save some money. You can guarantee that a carpark that's stripping costs like that isn't paying for enforcement either.
Be careful with the assumptions...Or you can simply pay later when you do have signal, for less time and save some money. You can guarantee that a carpark that's stripping costs like that isn't paying for enforcement either.
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monkfish1 said:
Do you not think ive tried. For over 4 years. I dont get it. Its that simple.
Assuming i fought my way through booking a flight on my phone, as per my first post, im now totally reliant on my phone to get where im going. I have zero confidence in it, nor my ability to find whatever it is i need to show come the moment its needed. Piece of paper in my pocket cant and doesnt go wrong.
I see people paying for stuff on a phone. I have absolutely zero idea how thats done.
I had a chap who worked for me set up work emails on my phone so they were synched with work. One day they stopped working. Why? Who knows. Chap has left. What do i do now? If you understand this stuff, great, if you dont, tough luck.
Old man shouts at cloud Assuming i fought my way through booking a flight on my phone, as per my first post, im now totally reliant on my phone to get where im going. I have zero confidence in it, nor my ability to find whatever it is i need to show come the moment its needed. Piece of paper in my pocket cant and doesnt go wrong.
I see people paying for stuff on a phone. I have absolutely zero idea how thats done.
I had a chap who worked for me set up work emails on my phone so they were synched with work. One day they stopped working. Why? Who knows. Chap has left. What do i do now? If you understand this stuff, great, if you dont, tough luck.
I was in marks & sparks this week (I must be approaching oap status) and there was a handy QR code above each clothing rack saying you can check for other sizes online and in the store (using the link) of the items I was looking at. That’s handy I thought as they didn’t have the sizes I needed on the rack so thought I’d do it and see if they had any stock.
So camera out, point at code, it takes you niftily to the webpage where I am expecting to search for said stock.
Durh! Error
This webpage no longer provides this function. Please download the M&S app for blah blah blah….
Yeah like fk am I
So camera out, point at code, it takes you niftily to the webpage where I am expecting to search for said stock.
Durh! Error
This webpage no longer provides this function. Please download the M&S app for blah blah blah….
Yeah like fk am I
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