Twin spark Oil consumption Straw Poll

Twin spark Oil consumption Straw Poll

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hughesie2

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12,590 posts

288 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Quick Straw Poll, how much oil does your Tspark engine consume every 1000 miles ??

NJS25

446 posts

255 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Hi there,

1996 145 Cloverleaf, uses nothing, never has !

(tempts fate, regrets post )

Regards, Neil

pwig

11,956 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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1 Litre every 1000 miles is manufacturers tolerences.

Owners handbook also stipulates to check it once a week and before long journeys.

wombat rick

13,609 posts

250 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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My first 145QV used a litre every 2000 miles until 20,000 and then steadied off. Second one used about a litre every 4000 miles and now uses hardly any at all (56,000 miles now).

They all vary, but as mentioned above it can be up to 1 litre every 1000 miles hence the sticker in the windscreen advising you to check.

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

274 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Mine used the full litre per 1,000 miles for the first 12,000 miles, and since then has levelled off to approximately a litre every 4000. It now has 68,000 miles showing. Funny thing is that I used Selenia for that first 12,000 and then changed to fully synth Castrol on advice from SGT. Not sure if the decreased consumption may be wholly or partly due to the different oil or whether it is a simple coincidence that everything had bedded in nicely at the 12k mark.

>> Edited by Mon Ami Mate on Wednesday 12th January 20:01

Hughesie2

Original Poster:

12,590 posts

288 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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pwig said:
1 Litre every 1000 miles is manufacturers tolerences.

Owners handbook also stipulates to check it once a week and before long journeys.


Can i get that in writing anywhere Pwig ??

pwig

11,956 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Hughesie2 said:

pwig said:
1 Litre every 1000 miles is manufacturers tolerences.

Owners handbook also stipulates to check it once a week and before long journeys.



Can i get that in writing anywhere Pwig ??


in your handbook mate

hughesie2

Original Poster:

12,590 posts

288 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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pwig said:

in your handbook mate


Smart arse

But actually i've checked that and it says;
"during the initial period of use the engine settles, therefore the engine oil consumption may be considered stabilised only after the first 5000/6000km"

So if you have it where it says differently elsewhere please any help you MAY have would be great.

Alternatively if you can point out exactly where it says the consumption may be in the handbook that would be great !

pwig

11,956 posts

276 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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ill have a ganders at work tomorrow

Alfa Mad

219 posts

249 months

Saturday 15th January 2005
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My 1.8 uses 1.5 litres between services.

pdV6

16,442 posts

267 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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hughesie2 said:

pwig said:

in your handbook mate



Smart arse

But actually i've checked that and it says;
"during the initial period of use the engine settles, therefore the engine oil consumption may be considered stabilised only after the first 5000/6000km"

So if you have it where it says differently elsewhere please any help you MAY have would be great.

My GTV manual (ok, so its a 3.0V6) has almost word-for word what pwig states. Also, it says to check every 300 miles regardless!

Luckily I used 2l over the 1st 8000 miles and none at all since (currently at 36000!)

hughesie2

Original Poster:

12,590 posts

288 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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pdV6 said:



My GTV manual (ok, so its a 3.0V6) has almost word-for word what pwig states. Also, it says to check every 300 miles regardless!

Luckily I used 2l over the 1st 8000 miles and none at all since (currently at 36000!)


Cheers, on another update the engineers report that Lloyds commisioned has shown that the vehicle was NEVER run low on oil, at any point in the vehicles life !!

jacobyte

4,746 posts

248 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Under "normal" conditions I have found it uses about 1 litre every 2000 miles.

BUT...

Idling in traffic for a long time seems to eat lots of oil, as does tonking along at 90+ so always check after doing a several hour round trip on a motorway.

alfaman

6,416 posts

240 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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About 1 litre every 1500 miles (ish)


164 TS , 133k miles.

rustybin

1,769 posts

244 months

Friday 28th January 2005
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130,000 mile GTV T-Spark. None in last 6000 miles. (Actually looks like the level has gone up )

lanciachris

3,357 posts

247 months

Friday 28th January 2005
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Wimps you want to have a volumex.

the owners manual said:
Supercharger oil level should be checked daily, or every 250 miles, whichever comes first


Alfa Mad

219 posts

249 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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As I've just changed the oil in the 75TS to 10w/60 Selenia Racing, rather than the 10w/40 Shell Helix Plus; I wonder what difference that will make to the oil consumption. Does anyone have experience of a similar change of oil?

Avocet

800 posts

261 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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My wife's 156 1.8 t'spark was bought at about 40,000 miles and didn't use any oil at all. We were quite surprised because they have something of a reputation for it. We had one service where we used Castrol Magnatec 10/40 and it still didn't use any (like maybe half a pint in 12,000 miles). Then the cam belt lost some teeth and trashed some valves at 57,000 and I rebuilt the top end. I used an aftermarket "Corteco" gasket set and replaced the valve stem oil seals while I was at it. Unfortunately, since then (now 63250 miles) it has drunk oil like there was no tomorrow. I have kept very accurate records of what I've put in between the rebuild and now. I let it bed in for about 1000 miles before I started keeping records but between 57907 and 63250 I have put in 6.5 litres. 862 miles / litre or about 1300km / litre (!) It doesn't visibly smoke, it sailed through its last MOT emissions test and, as has been stated in other posts, Alfa say up to 1000km / litre so I'm still within tolerances. It hasn't got any better or worse since the rebuild.

I'm also told that it was valve stem oil seals that are responsible for the high oil consumption on some of the cars "as built" so I guess I must have used seals of equivalent quality!

I also have a 215,000 12v 164 V6 and that does about 450 miles / pint. I guess they don't make them like they used to!

Alfa Mad

219 posts

249 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Avocet, did you fit new valve guides at the rebuild? PErhaps it is down to different valves/guides?

Avocet

800 posts

261 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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No. I'm told that in severe cases, they can crack the guides so I had a good look at them all with a magnifying glass but couldn't see anything. In any case, mine was a very light one (about 3500 RPM just as I lifted off to go from 1st to 2nd). It only bent the inlet valves. The exhausts were all fine.