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Trustmeimadoctor

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13,593 posts

163 months

Thursday 15th September 2022
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Anyone running home assistant? I'm currently using domoticz only to monitor my heating though and want to start looking into other automations.

Currently running on a pi3b but reading says it's not really up to it and it seems that HA kills SD cards.

So after the lowest power 'AVAILABLE' device to run it on

Currently looking at a HP t630 thin client seem to be available for about 30-50

Any other suggestions?

essayer

9,664 posts

202 months

Thursday 15th September 2022
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I switched from domoticz recently and it’s been a revelation- pretty much everything detected out the box., and easy to extend with HACS.

YAML config is a bit of a fiddle but works well.

Runs fine on my rpi 3b - not sure about sd card yet, only been in a month..

Edited by essayer on Thursday 15th September 23:15

a7x88

780 posts

156 months

Thursday 15th September 2022
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I use it fairly extensively. Mine is running in a VM on an Unraid box though that also runs a number of other dockers/VM’s.

It seems exceptionally light weight and hasn’t noticeably impacted the boxes baseload

ARHarh

4,298 posts

115 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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I have quite an extensive setup as well. Migrated from openhab last autumn. It detected most of my kit and the rest was easily incorporated. I run it on a pi4 and it copes fine. Raspberry pis are difficult to get right now so if I was setting up a new system I would be buying a used Thin Client from ebay, cheaper than a pi and more power.

Home assistant is so powerful, it will do anything you can think of.

Trustmeimadoctor

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13,593 posts

163 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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I have a 3b and did fancy a 4 but as you say no stock at all

I was looking at a ho t630 thin client but energy usage is so much higher than a pi. Might give my 3b a go anyway

RizzoTheRat

26,048 posts

200 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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Installed it in a docker on my Synology NAS but not got round to buying a Zigbee dongle for it and playing with it yet, so following with interest. Currently using Smartthings but like the idea of being able to set up slightly more complex routines.

durbster

10,790 posts

230 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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Yep, set it up a couple of months ago and I'm completely hooked.

I was looking for something like this for ages and gave Smartthings a go for a while. It's good but I was drawn to the open source nature of the HA project, and the fact that it's not dependent on third party services to work.

What's everybody running it on? I've got an one of these Odroids which seem to play second-fiddle to the Raspberry Pi but it's been doing the job absolutely fine.

I plugged a Sonoff Zigbee stick into it so I'm now filling the house with Zigbee sensors biggrin

ARHarh

4,298 posts

115 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
I have a 3b and did fancy a 4 but as you say no stock at all

I was looking at a ho t630 thin client but energy usage is so much higher than a pi. Might give my 3b a go anyway
Try it out on a windows machine first no need to buy hardware just to try it


https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows

Will probably work fine on pi3b.

ARHarh

4,298 posts

115 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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durbster said:
Yep, set it up a couple of months ago and I'm completely hooked.

I was looking for something like this for ages and gave Smartthings a go for a while. It's good but I was drawn to the open source nature of the HA project, and the fact that it's not dependent on third party services to work.

What's everybody running it on? I've got an one of these Odroids which seem to play second-fiddle to the Raspberry Pi but it's been doing the job absolutely fine.

I plugged a Sonoff Zigbee stick into it so I'm now filling the house with Zigbee sensors biggrin
I have that problem keep adding stuff. My list of things.



essayer

9,664 posts

202 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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I have some z-wave kit so I have to absolutely resist the urge to buy more as it all adds up !

s1962a

5,745 posts

170 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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Anyone hooked this up with Octopus energy (smart meter) to view and track consumption?

Also any recommendations for energy consumption sensors for individual plugs/appliances?

Cheers

essayer

9,664 posts

202 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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s1962a said:
Anyone hooked this up with Octopus energy (smart meter) to view and track consumption?

Also any recommendations for energy consumption sensors for individual plugs/appliances?

Cheers
Hildebrand DCC integration will read smart meters, although you won't get instantaneous consumption unless you buy their IHD; without that, you just get total consumption updated throughout the day

For devices, I have a Tapo P110 which ha supports natively, although they're £15ish


Russ35

2,563 posts

247 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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essayer said:
s1962a said:
Anyone hooked this up with Octopus energy (smart meter) to view and track consumption?

Also any recommendations for energy consumption sensors for individual plugs/appliances?

Cheers
Hildebrand DCC integration will read smart meters, although you won't get instantaneous consumption unless you buy their IHD; without that, you just get total consumption updated throughout the day

For devices, I have a Tapo P110 which ha supports natively, although they're £15ish
I’ve got the Hidebrand IHD linked into HA. Get electric usage about every 10 seconds and gas about 30mins.

I used to run HA in a virtual machine on my main PC, but didn’t like leaving that on 24 hour, so during one of the Amazon special deal days picked up a small micro pc that now runs HA.

Interesting about the Tapo plugs, I didn’t think they could be controlled via HA, so I’ll have to look into that. I use Kasa plugs for energy monitoring and control, but are dearer that Tapo plugs.


Trustmeimadoctor

Original Poster:

13,593 posts

163 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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Right will spin up a new vm tonight and give it a go,
My main things I want is my evohome using hgi80, octopus and voltaware if it will then look into smart devices

essayer

9,664 posts

202 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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Russ35 said:
I’ve got the Hidebrand IHD linked into HA. Get electric usage about every 10 seconds and gas about 30mins.

I used to run HA in a virtual machine on my main PC, but didn’t like leaving that on 24 hour, so during one of the Amazon special deal days picked up a small micro pc that now runs HA.

Interesting about the Tapo plugs, I didn’t think they could be controlled via HA, so I’ll have to look into that. I use Kasa plugs for energy monitoring and control, but are dearer that Tapo plugs.
ah wait mine is a Kasa KP115, not Tapo - apologies. Kasa is detected by HA.

Russ35

2,563 posts

247 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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Just had a look for the latest info on Tapo integration and it appears it can be done via a HACS integration.

Looks like it controls a lot of the Tapo devices Plugs, Energy Plugs, lights etc.

https://github.com/petretiandrea/home-assistant-ta...

So I'm going to order a couple, even though I still have a couple of Kasa energy monitor plugs spare.



paulrockliffe

16,004 posts

235 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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I have it running in Docker on UnRaid, it's great, I'm a big fan! It is a bit annoying that I don't have HACS, I don't understand why exactly, but when I Google for stuff too often I end up needing HACS. Can anyone explain why I can't have HACS and all that?

I set it up so that I could program my amplifiers to turn on for my ceiling speakers when the connected Chromecasts are playing. It's brilliant! I also added the Windows thingy to my PC, so that triggers the amplifier on and off when my PC locks and unlocks.

I discovered I could monitor the river level in my village which is nice, it'll warn me next time it's going to flood.

If we're doing a Home Assistant thread, does anyone know how I go about writing data out to my SQL Server? I have my Tado setup integrated and I would like to record temperature, set temperature and a few other things on my server so I can have Power BI report some more useful stuff like how long the heating was on for vs ambient temperature and the impact of having my wood burner on.

Also cameras - I bought a couple of cheap ones this week thinking if they're cheap they'll have no software support so will rely on an ip address and port to get the video out. Ie they'll 100% work with HA. They have an awesome app, but no way to get them into HA. So what cheap cameras? I want HA to save a picture to file every few minutes, I'm going to use OCR to then build up a series of electricity and gas meter readings, but I've fallen at the first hurdle!

ARHarh

4,298 posts

115 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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paulrockliffe said:
I have it running in Docker on UnRaid, it's great, I'm a big fan! It is a bit annoying that I don't have HACS, I don't understand why exactly, but when I Google for stuff too often I end up needing HACS. Can anyone explain why I can't have HACS and all that?

I set it up so that I could program my amplifiers to turn on for my ceiling speakers when the connected Chromecasts are playing. It's brilliant! I also added the Windows thingy to my PC, so that triggers the amplifier on and off when my PC locks and unlocks.

I discovered I could monitor the river level in my village which is nice, it'll warn me next time it's going to flood.

If we're doing a Home Assistant thread, does anyone know how I go about writing data out to my SQL Server? I have my Tado setup integrated and I would like to record temperature, set temperature and a few other things on my server so I can have Power BI report some more useful stuff like how long the heating was on for vs ambient temperature and the impact of having my wood burner on.

Also cameras - I bought a couple of cheap ones this week thinking if they're cheap they'll have no software support so will rely on an ip address and port to get the video out. Ie they'll 100% work with HA. They have an awesome app, but no way to get them into HA. So what cheap cameras? I want HA to save a picture to file every few minutes, I'm going to use OCR to then build up a series of electricity and gas meter readings, but I've fallen at the first hurdle!
Does your camera not have rtsp output most do? What make are they?

Thanks to you I now have flood warnings for my local river.

durbster

10,790 posts

230 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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essayer said:
For devices, I have a Tapo P110 which ha supports natively, although they're £15ish
I'm pretty sure Tapo devices are not natively supported!

I had some Tapo plugs and fitted a couple Tapo light strips in the house before I got HA. It never occurred to me they wouldn't work so I was a bit narked to see. The light strips in particular were pretty central to my HA plans. hehe

I have managed to get them working with that HACS custom integration mentioned above. It's ok but every now and again they all lose connection and I have to remove and re-add them. Not ideal.

ETA: Worth pointing out that Kasa devices, even though they're both from the same company as Tapo, work absolutely fine natively.

Edited by durbster on Friday 16th September 18:21

FunkyGibbon

3,798 posts

272 months

Friday 16th September 2022
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paulrockliffe said:
I have it running in Docker on UnRaid, it's great, I'm a big fan! It is a bit annoying that I don't have HACS, I don't understand why exactly, but when I Google for stuff too often I end up needing HACS. Can anyone explain why I can't have HACS and all that?
You may have installed Home Assistant Core - which does not have the supervisor and add-ons. You need HassOS, Home Assistant Container or Home Assistant Supervised