Tavarish P1 rebuild

Tavarish P1 rebuild

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BobM

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896 posts

263 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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I presume I'm not the only one watching this and waiting for each new instalment?

A few other youtubers have posted videos about it, I found this one quite interesting. In this chat with Kevin from McMedics, Tavarish indicates that McLaren are being more helpful than usual and he's even had a call from Zak Brown about the car. Also a lot of common parts with the 650S making the rebuild slightly less daunting than it initially appears.

RSbandit

2,790 posts

140 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Yes I’m following it with intrigue ….he restored a badly damaged 675lt which looks fantastic …wish him all the best looks like a huge undertaking but good that McLaren have already reached out to him .

MclaesLaren

129 posts

101 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Big risk. But huge reward. Battery only is 100K USD.

Hope he can pull it all together. Following with great interest.

myvision

1,992 posts

144 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Good luck to him I hope he pulls it off!

Bispal

1,722 posts

159 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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As a 675LT owner I did enjoy his 675LT rebuild and had started to trust a lot of what he said. But when he said his 675LT engine failed because the engine internals of the 675LT were cast and not forged he lost any respect I had for him and not sure I could watch anymore as I can no longer trust anything he says. So many people just believe everything they hear on YouTube, these creators need to property research and fact check.


BobM

Original Poster:

896 posts

263 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Bispal said:
As a 675LT owner I did enjoy his 675LT rebuild and had started to trust a lot of what he said. But when he said his 675LT engine failed because the engine internals of the 675LT were cast and not forged he lost any respect I had for him and not sure I could watch anymore as I can no longer trust anything he says. So many people just believe everything they hear on YouTube, these creators need to property research and fact check.
Harsh Bispal! smile

I get you, but it's clear from the thread over on McLife forum that lots of people more technically minded than him also have no clue about the internals across the McLaren range. Freddy also doesn't purport to be an engine building guru so I gave him some slack on that.

C5_Steve

4,898 posts

111 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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It's a fascinating challange, I've watched Freddie since his garage days with his Aston. He really is self-taught and takes on some great cars. I think his vids were losing their way a bit before, too many unfinsiihed projects and sporadic updates but I think a lot of that was to do with his personal life that he gave a little update on.

I'm interested in what he ends up doing with the P1 because I'm sure when it was coming up for auction I read/heard somewhere that it cannot be put back on the road. I'm sure it was Freddie himself who said it on a podcast before he bought it. Not sure how he's going to get round that or maybe it didn't end up with that title.

RBT0

1,540 posts

127 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Bispal said:
As a 675LT owner I did enjoy his 675LT rebuild and had started to trust a lot of what he said. But when he said his 675LT engine failed because the engine internals of the 675LT were cast and not forged he lost any respect I had for him and not sure I could watch anymore as I can no longer trust anything he says. So many people just believe everything they hear on YouTube, these creators need to property research and fact check.
Totally agree, that statement was eye-opening in terms of level of bulls**t.

I watch it because I like to see components which you don’t get to see unless you work for McLaren.




BobM

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896 posts

263 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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C5_Steve said:
I'm interested in what he ends up doing with the P1 because I'm sure when it was coming up for auction I read/heard somewhere that it cannot be put back on the road. I'm sure it was Freddie himself who said it on a podcast before he bought it. Not sure how he's going to get round that or maybe it didn't end up with that title.
Ditto. It's clear he put a lot of thought and planning into buying the thing, so he must have a plan to get around the scrap title.

ChocolateFrog

28,858 posts

181 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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RBT0 said:
Bispal said:
As a 675LT owner I did enjoy his 675LT rebuild and had started to trust a lot of what he said. But when he said his 675LT engine failed because the engine internals of the 675LT were cast and not forged he lost any respect I had for him and not sure I could watch anymore as I can no longer trust anything he says. So many people just believe everything they hear on YouTube, these creators need to property research and fact check.
Totally agree, that statement was eye-opening in terms of level of bulls**t.

I watch it because I like to see components which you don’t get to see unless you work for McLaren.
Meh, Ian Tyrell told us on YouTube that cars ride better from the factory because the tyres are filled with Nitrogen and he takes millions off his clients.

Tavarish spanners on his own stuff and regular proclaims that he's not an expert.

In regards to the P1 I don't think the risk is that great. Milk it for 20 videos at what $20-50k sponsorship an episode, plus the ad revenue, plus the exposure and if it doesn't work he's got a lot of P1 parts at the end of it.

He's come a long way since he was torquing up Gallardo pressure plate bolts up to 80Nm and wondering why he kept snapping them.

Stig

11,822 posts

292 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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C5_Steve said:
It's a fascinating challange, I've watched Freddie since his garage days with his Aston. He really is self-taught and takes on some great cars. I think his vids were losing their way a bit before, too many unfinsiihed projects and sporadic updates but I think a lot of that was to do with his personal life that he gave a little update on.

I'm interested in what he ends up doing with the P1 because I'm sure when it was coming up for auction I read/heard somewhere that it cannot be put back on the road. I'm sure it was Freddie himself who said it on a podcast before he bought it. Not sure how he's going to get round that or maybe it didn't end up with that title.
Car would have to be exported for a title I believe. However, I don't think that's a concern for him. Rebuilding the P1 is a way of building his audience and therefore monetise. I expext the cash he'll make from YouTube will outweight the car value (which is saying something, such is the crazy content world we live in nowadays).

Tavarish, Mat Armstrong, Ratarossa have to continually take on more expensive/ridiculous projects (and flood damage has to be the worst) to get views - so it ends up being a bit of a pi$$ing contest to outdo each other. That said, it's many times better than watching Wheeler Dealers or other contrived telly cack.

Hammersia

1,564 posts

23 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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I'm kind of watching it, but, not being negative, I imagine the project mostly involves buying replacement bits from McLaren?

As opposed to "crafting", i.e. working (bashing, grinding, welding, painting etc.) metal or carbon?

MclaesLaren

129 posts

101 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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BobM said:
Ditto. It's clear he put a lot of thought and planning into buying the thing, so he must have a plan to get around the scrap title.
I read somewhere that it was possibly to register in some states in USA. Not all states prohibited registration.

I might be wrong, but Freddie probably has control.. Otherwise its a huge loss.

Expensive piece of art or show-off otherwise.

akadk

1,521 posts

187 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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Hammersia said:
I'm kind of watching it, but, not being negative, I imagine the project mostly involves buying replacement bits from McLaren?

As opposed to "crafting", i.e. working (bashing, grinding, welding, painting etc.) metal or carbon?
If he did that then it would cost £2m in parts

The skill and challenge is to do it in such a way it costs less than it would have done to buy a straight car

C5_Steve

4,898 posts

111 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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akadk said:
Hammersia said:
I'm kind of watching it, but, not being negative, I imagine the project mostly involves buying replacement bits from McLaren?

As opposed to "crafting", i.e. working (bashing, grinding, welding, painting etc.) metal or carbon?
If he did that then it would cost £2m in parts

The skill and challenge is to do it in such a way it costs less than it would have done to buy a straight car
Having watched his 675LT series it definitely won't be just buying bits from McLaren at all. I think the only part he bought for that from McLaren was the roof scoop but even that I think he may have got from another vendor in the UK. I just know it was the last new one available.

I think he sourced a lot of parts from other wrecked cars which was part of the interest in finding out what common parts they all share (for me anyway). The other part that was interesting was the body repairs, he really did make a vast improvement over the factory finish of that car.


Hammersia

1,564 posts

23 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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C5_Steve said:
akadk said:
Hammersia said:
I'm kind of watching it, but, not being negative, I imagine the project mostly involves buying replacement bits from McLaren?

As opposed to "crafting", i.e. working (bashing, grinding, welding, painting etc.) metal or carbon?
If he did that then it would cost £2m in parts

The skill and challenge is to do it in such a way it costs less than it would have done to buy a straight car
Having watched his 675LT series it definitely won't be just buying bits from McLaren at all. I think the only part he bought for that from McLaren was the roof scoop but even that I think he may have got from another vendor in the UK. I just know it was the last new one available.

I think he sourced a lot of parts from other wrecked cars which was part of the interest in finding out what common parts they all share (for me anyway). The other part that was interesting was the body repairs, he really did make a vast improvement over the factory finish of that car.
Ah that's more interesting then, I shall rededicate myself to watching it.

SydneyBridge

9,458 posts

166 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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He has said that Mclaren have contacted him and offered help and he has also said the car is coming to Europe if and when done

MclaesLaren

129 posts

101 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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Episode 2 is out.

https://youtu.be/nCRSwgr7pNw

I am impresssed so far.

BobM

Original Poster:

896 posts

263 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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Just watched the latest episode this morning. All seemed a bit odd to me. What was the point of pouring the strange oil down the plugholes? To me this project is screaming out for the engine to be removed and at least take the heads off to have a look at the piston crowns and bores properly and clean them up. Surely the engine needs to come out to clean the engine bay up properly anyway?

CharlesElliott

2,050 posts

290 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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BobM said:
Just watched the latest episode this morning. All seemed a bit odd to me. What was the point of pouring the strange oil down the plugholes? To me this project is screaming out for the engine to be removed and at least take the heads off to have a look at the piston crowns and bores properly and clean them up. Surely the engine needs to come out to clean the engine bay up properly anyway?
For reasons that haven't been explained (apart from cost and equipment required!), he seems to want to clean up the top and bottom end in situ without disassembly. So the mystery oil was there to clean up the mould in the cylinders.