Tsunoda

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baconsarney

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12,057 posts

169 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Is it just me or does he always blame another driver for not being where he wanted to be each session… I just see a pattern… nothing against the guy but nothing ever seems to be his fault….

Jasandjules

70,539 posts

237 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Generally standard for an F1 driver. But I just don't think he has the skills to be there....

Blib

45,438 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Jasandjules said:
Generally standard for an F1 driver. But I just don't think he has the skills to be there....
Of course, he out qualified his teammate.......scratchchin

Jasandjules

70,539 posts

237 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Blib said:
Jasandjules said:
Generally standard for an F1 driver. But I just don't think he has the skills to be there....
Of course, he out qualified his teammate.......scratchchin
Against a bloke who has had less than half a dozen races in the car, yeah, top job..... I will not be surprised if Ric finishes ahead in the GP though either.

Blib

45,438 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Jasandjules said:
Blib said:
Jasandjules said:
Generally standard for an F1 driver. But I just don't think he has the skills to be there....
Of course, he out qualified his teammate.......scratchchin
Against a bloke who has had less than half a dozen races in the car, yeah, top job..... I will not be surprised if Ric finishes ahead in the GP though either.
I don't think that many would argue the point. But, today, Ricciado was average.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

91 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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Lucky someone started a yuki thread so I can post how well he has done last few races.

BrownEaredDog

617 posts

109 months

Sunday 24th November
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Just saw Yuki being interviewed on F1TV after the Vegas GP. He strikes me as a very pleasant chap, and I'm quite a fan of his slightly old-school driving style. I think he'd make a name for himself if RB let him loose in the same car as Max.

hondajack85

302 posts

7 months

Sunday 24th November
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I guess its all down to the end of season test for some reason but Yuki would deserve a season in the Red Bull as a reward to honda for 4 straight F1 titles.
Apart from Sergio money I cant see what anyone else brings to the show.

Time4another

279 posts

11 months

Sunday 24th November
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Has mellowed and improved this season but he would buckle if they put him in next to Max.

The whole RB young driver program just isn't delivering, hence Perez still being in a seat

BrownEaredDog

617 posts

109 months

Sunday 24th November
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Time4another said:
Has mellowed and improved this season but he would buckle if they put him in next to Max.

The whole RB young driver program just isn't delivering, hence Perez still being in a seat
Good point, maybe he would buckle - everyone else has. Lawson is too green, but Yuki's feisty temperament might serve him well at RB? Or maybe that's precisely why he hasn't already got the seat scratchchin

BrownEaredDog

617 posts

109 months

Sunday 24th November
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hondajack85 said:
Apart from Sergio money I cant see what anyone else brings to the show.
I do wonder about this; he must bring an awful lot [of money] to the table for Red Bull not to have swung the axe already.

Jayho

2,190 posts

178 months

Tuesday 26th November
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BrownEaredDog said:
Time4another said:
Has mellowed and improved this season but he would buckle if they put him in next to Max.

The whole RB young driver program just isn't delivering, hence Perez still being in a seat
Good point, maybe he would buckle - everyone else has. Lawson is too green, but Yuki's feisty temperament might serve him well at RB? Or maybe that's precisely why he hasn't already got the seat scratchchin
My biggest issue with Yuki (And it was something I picked up from DTS so I do take it with a pinch of salt), was during one of the seasons he was lacking in his physical fitness. He's got a paid for motivator / sports coach / personal fitness coach there. The amount he moaned and complained about having to wake up early to do a 10k jog was baffling to me.

He's racing in the pinnacle of motorsport, has a wealth of health experts at his disposal, but he's moaning about having to wake up and do some exercise? That is terrible mentality.

On the flip side, I believe it was the season Ocon lost his seat, he was preparing himself mentally and physically in preparation for any call backs.


hondajack85

302 posts

7 months

Tuesday 26th November
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At the end of the day a team wants the faster driver not some captain sensible who says all the right things due to extensive coaching.
The fact Yuki can perform so well on the world stage ,coming from the baffling and unfathomable world that is Japan is a great testament to him.
Most europeans and english speakers couldnt find their way out of the airport in japan.
Mind you Yuki tried in Vegas lol.

EmailAddress

13,699 posts

226 months

Tuesday 26th November
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hondajack85 said:
At the end of the day a team wants the faster driver not some captain sensible who says all the right things due to extensive coaching.
The fact Yuki can perform so well on the world stage ,coming from the baffling and unfathomable world that is Japan is a great testament to him.
Most europeans and english speakers couldnt find their way out of the airport in japan.
Mind you Yuki tried in Vegas lol.
Will you be staying long?

Spouting this unfathomable rubbish is so far outside 'opinion' it's not even comical.

Good effort I suppose. But the F1 threads were just starting to get back to intelligent and humorous debate.

hondajack85

302 posts

7 months

Tuesday 26th November
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You think the post a couple of inches further up was sensible and fair do you?

EmailAddress

13,699 posts

226 months

Tuesday 26th November
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hondajack85 said:
You think the post a couple of inches further up was sensible and fair do you?
It's not a veiled xenophobic rant, and it includes paragraphs. So +2.

Jayho

2,190 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th November
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hondajack85 said:
You think the post a couple of inches further up was sensible and fair do you?
Is this directed at my post? I did caveat it with it's what I perceived when watching DTS.

I also don't understand how being Japanese has anything to do with what I posted. My criticism was down to the attitude to training and nothing else.

I don't think what I posted was really unfair. The physical and mental demands to be at the top of any sport is nothing which majority of people will experience. If a team is willing to put the effort in helping you get that extra 10% out of your ability I think it's only right that you take it. It's all about attitude.

Sports and Sports Science is no longer about training only for exactly what you're doing. It's about preparing yourself mentally, training your body correctly and providing your body with the correct nutrition to achieve what you want to achieve. Take away any of that you're already in a disadvantage compared to your peers. Of course there are few exceptions to this down to pure natural talent, but they are few and far between.

PhilAsia

4,961 posts

83 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Jayho said:
hondajack85 said:
You think the post a couple of inches further up was sensible and fair do you?
Is this directed at my post? I did caveat it with it's what I perceived when watching DTS.

I also don't understand how being Japanese has anything to do with what I posted. My criticism was down to the attitude to training and nothing else.

I don't think what I posted was really unfair. The physical and mental demands to be at the top of any sport is nothing which majority of people will experience. If a team is willing to put the effort in helping you get that extra 10% out of your ability I think it's only right that you take it. It's all about attitude.

Sports and Sports Science is no longer about training only for exactly what you're doing. It's about preparing yourself mentally, training your body correctly and providing your body with the correct nutrition to achieve what you want to achieve. Take away any of that you're already in a disadvantage compared to your peers. Of course there are few exceptions to this down to pure natural talent, but they are few and far between.
I really just wasn't ready for this post. I am going to have to knuckle down, look into myself and come back to it. smile

On the other hand (there's four fingers and a thumb?), hondajack's is clearly transparent racist bks!


Jayho

2,190 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th November
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PhilAsia said:
I really just wasn't ready for this post. I am going to have to knuckle down, look into myself and come back to it. smile

On the other hand (there's four fingers and a thumb?), hondajack's is clearly transparent racist bks!
I was just more perplexed on how race even got into this conversation. I thought I had articulated fairly well that issues were around attitude for an athlete.

O/T, but someone in the paddock who I always admired was Button. In his early years he had a reputation of living the old school F1 playboy lifestyle. When called out on it he started to knuckle down and fully commit himself to his craft. From what I gather he became an avid runner and cyclist with a very clean and healthy lifestyle. All these things surely only improves your overall performance.

Further off topic, but when I was at school I remember playing football for both the school and local boys clubs. There were a few players around my age group who had bags of talent, talent which I was envious of. But the ones who actually progressed furthest were the ones with some talent, but a lot of dedication. Unfortunately I had neither bag full of talent or dedication.

Sandpit Steve

11,418 posts

82 months

Wednesday 27th November
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BrownEaredDog said:
hondajack85 said:
Apart from Sergio money I cant see what anyone else brings to the show.
I do wonder about this; he must bring an awful lot [of money] to the table for Red Bull not to have swung the axe already.
His sponsor is Carlos Slim, who’s worth in the 12 figures USD. Checo’s also instrumental to Red Bull company’s marketing across the Spanish-speaking world.

I’d quite like to see Yuki get the drive next year though, as a big thank-you to Honda for the past few years.