Buying a Lusso V12

Buying a Lusso V12

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JJMatrixx

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761 posts

167 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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I'm going to be buying a GTC4 Lusso V12 soon. Is there anything I need to look out for? Is there any spec that's deemed critical? Do they come with front lift and is this commonly spec'd. I'm likely to send it to Novitec for exhaust, alloys and some carbon shortly after purchase. Oh, and will largely use this as a daily driver with an Aston DBX 707. So aim to do about 5-6k miles a year in it.

kbf1981

2,290 posts

208 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Nothing much to add other than I got one of these around a year ago and really enjoy it - take it to work, use it a lot. I've a couple cars but I use this around a third of the time.

I think lift was an option and I'd always get it to give you piece of mind. Aside from that the glass roof is nice for rear seat passengers. I think they're great value given the Puro will be 350-400 with options and the interior is a step up from an FF.

JJMatrixx

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761 posts

167 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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kbf1981 said:
Nothing much to add other than I got one of these around a year ago and really enjoy it - take it to work, use it a lot. I've a couple cars but I use this around a third of the time.

I think lift was an option and I'd always get it to give you piece of mind. Aside from that the glass roof is nice for rear seat passengers. I think they're great value given the Puro will be 350-400 with options and the interior is a step up from an FF.
Ok, cheers - have you not felt the need to give it a proper exhaust yet? Or quite happy as is?

And yeah, the Puro just seems so overpriced - will depend on numbers but I suspect the resell will drop quite a lot after a year.

ANOpax

924 posts

174 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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JJMatrixx said:
I'm going to be buying a GTC4 Lusso V12 soon. Is there anything I need to look out for? Is there any spec that's deemed critical? Do they come with front lift and is this commonly spec'd. I'm likely to send it to Novitec for exhaust, alloys and some carbon shortly after purchase. Oh, and will largely use this as a daily driver with an Aston DBX 707. So aim to do about 5-6k miles a year in it.
Lift is an option and it operates both axles.

If you'e going to Novitec the car, lift is essential as Novitec springs lower the car and you'll need the lift to clear normal obstacles again.

Other options to watch out for are;

Carplay - really nice to have
Pano roof - most would prefer it but it's the pax who benefit, not the driver
Shields - most would prefer it but some actively seek a no shield car
Lots of interior carbon - lifts the cabin ambience
Upgrade HiFi - hard to retrofit so get it if you like your sounds
Semi-aniline leather - extra touch of luxury and wears/ages really nicely but not essential
Seat heating & cooling - always nice to have
Cameras (the really late cars had ADAS which is even better) - really useful as it's a big car

Good luck and please drop us some photos when you've found one.


JJMatrixx

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761 posts

167 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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ANOpax said:
Lift is an option and it operates both axles.

If you'e going to Novitec the car, lift is essential as Novitec springs lower the car and you'll need the lift to clear normal obstacles again.

Other options to watch out for are;

Carplay - really nice to have
Pano roof - most would prefer it but it's the pax who benefit, not the driver
Shields - most would prefer it but some actively seek a no shield car
Lots of interior carbon - lifts the cabin ambience
Upgrade HiFi - hard to retrofit so get it if you like your sounds
Semi-aniline leather - extra touch of luxury and wears/ages really nicely but not essential
Seat heating & cooling - always nice to have
Cameras (the really late cars had ADAS which is even better) - really useful as it's a big car

Good luck and please drop us some photos when you've found one.
Thanks, appreciate it. Will be sure to post pics/update.

Unlikely but are there any details/links to the full options sheet of spec + list price costs?

ANOpax

924 posts

174 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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JJMatrixx said:
Thanks, appreciate it. Will be sure to post pics/update.

Unlikely but are there any details/links to the full options sheet of spec + list price costs?
No price lists available (and they change every year anyway) but the supplying dealer will have the full breakdown for any specific car you find. They may quote GDPR as a reason for not sharing it but that's BS as long as the printout doesn't contain any personal details.

JJMatrixx

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761 posts

167 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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ANOpax said:
JJMatrixx said:
Thanks, appreciate it. Will be sure to post pics/update.

Unlikely but are there any details/links to the full options sheet of spec + list price costs?
No price lists available (and they change every year anyway) but the supplying dealer will have the full breakdown for any specific car you find. They may quote GDPR as a reason for not sharing it but that's BS as long as the printout doesn't contain any personal details.
I've actually got hold of a full industry data spec and price list thing, which I think will really come in handy. Options are so expensive that when you're comparing two cars side by side, it's great to work out what the list price of each would have been. A few things on it look proper mental though - for example it says 'Rear privacy glass - £2,640.' Surely that can't be right?! Fixed Panoramic Roof was £11,520. It's no wonder cars quickly got to over £300k when I'm looking at this. Puro is going to be even more wild I guess.

ANOpax

924 posts

174 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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JJMatrixx said:
I've actually got hold of a full industry data spec and price list thing, which I think will really come in handy. Options are so expensive that when you're comparing two cars side by side, it's great to work out what the list price of each would have been. A few things on it look proper mental though - for example it says 'Rear privacy glass - £2,640.' Surely that can't be right?! Fixed Panoramic Roof was £11,520. It's no wonder cars quickly got to over £300k when I'm looking at this. Puro is going to be even more wild I guess.
Impressive that you managed to get hold of the price list so well done.

And yes, Ferrari charges absurd money for tinting the rear windows and hatch glass.
Take a look at the pricing for CarPlay. That's also daylight robbery.

pancholi

226 posts

165 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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any possibility that you can put up the price/ options list here?

S1M VP

949 posts

242 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Lasso’s are great cars … you won’t go far wrong IMO …. so useable and has two personalities; very capable long distance comfortable cruiser which flies under most people’s radar, but equally capable of a hoon if you want a ‘more spirited’ drive.

I had an FF in Daytona Black with Crema … pano roof etc and loved that car, kept the car for 2yrs or so, but eventually got the itch and changed it.

Year later I bought a V12 Lusso as I missed the use-ability of the 4 seater, in Nurburgring Grey with grey alcantara.
I liked the car but preferred the spec of my FF, so kept that for 2 yrs but eventually px’d it when a new car came along.

Then I quickly realised (again) that missed it, so found a late 2019 V12 in Nero Daytona, with Crema leather, with lift, front & rear cameras, shields, automatic cruise with distance control, pano roof etc etc and snapped it up. It’s been another great car and I’ve done some great long distance trips in it such as LeMans, Spa and driven to/from a lot of race weekends as it’s easy to fit gear into it.

Great all-round car and hasn’t missed a beat in 14,000 mls and I’ve owned this one since early 2020.

Each to their own, but I have enjoyed having a black car.
It’s understated and doesn’t shout what it is compared to other cars/Ferraris … although, with a Novitec exhaust you may not just coast by under the radar quite so easily hehe

My Purosangue is in build and delivery imminent, but I’m loathed to let the Lusso go in case I prefer the lower sporty feel Vs the higher driving position of the SUV/FUV.

Only my opinion; but think Lusso values will stay fairly stable and strong now, as the PUROSANGUE is nearer £400k (over £400k with decent options) and it sold out immediately to those who were offered one, so might be fetching overs for quite a while, making the ‘Lusso a great 4 seater option.

Good luck in finding the right car.

Ps. 7 year service pack is standard (I believe) but worth checking






andrewp88

53 posts

166 months

Thursday 28th December 2023
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Hope you managed to find one.

Make sure you put Michelins rather than Pirellis on it.

footsoldier

2,273 posts

200 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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I did 20k miles in mine, great cars.
Didn’t think you need the lift, I didn’t need it at all, and do in other cars on same routes.
Cheapest exhaust mod is to remove the lower rear parcel shelf…sounds miles better, and easily reversible!
Agree on Michelins (default choice on most cars)

chimera40v8

56 posts

22 months

Saturday 15th June
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Has anybody got a copy of a price list to have a look at option prices please? Will be interesting when comparing cars.

Harry Flashman

19,951 posts

250 months

Tuesday 30th July
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Keeping an eye on this as also looking (albeit a bit vaguely).

Question - was the PTU sorted on these or will I need to budget for an upgrade, as I would on an FF?

ANOpax

924 posts

174 months

Tuesday 30th July
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Harry Flashman said:
Keeping an eye on this as also looking (albeit a bit vaguely).

Question - was the PTU sorted on these or will I need to budget for an upgrade, as I would on an FF?
PTUs also fail on Lussos. It’s essentially the same PTU unit as the one in the FF but Ferrari improved the cooling which allowed them to vector as much as 90% of the torque to one of the front wheels.

So improved cooling but more stress placed on it…

Definitely budget a slush fund for it and the DCT speed/pressure/temp sensors and oil seals.