How to calculate PAYE to Day Rate Subcontractor?

How to calculate PAYE to Day Rate Subcontractor?

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tredd

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94 posts

148 months

Monday 19th February
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Afternoon Gents,

I work within the construction industry and have been offered a job outside of IR35 which I really like the look of.

The trouble is, I have always been PAYE and I am being asked to go as a subcontractor which I am perfectly fine about. I need to negotiate my day rate but there are so many different factors to consider that I’m not sure how I do this to ensure I am not on less money that I currently earn.

Is anyone able to convert my current stats into an accurate day rate for me along with explanation so I can understand the rational please, I would like to earn the same or more with a day rate.

Current stats are:
70k pa salary .

Standard auto enrolment pension with no company enhancement other than statutory.

25days holiday plus bank holidays.

Fully expensed travel

Costs I can foresee:
£50 travel costs a day.

Accountancy fees unknown..

20% cis tax

Laptop purchase every 2-3yrs approx £1k

Mobile phone to run each month approx £400pa.

Making my own pension contributions


Happy to provide any more information to help - thank you so much!

esuuv

1,324 posts

206 months

Monday 19th February
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https://www.contractorcalculator.co.uk

Is a reasonable place to start.

Mr Pointy

11,246 posts

160 months

Monday 19th February
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Sole Trader/Limited Company? What about IR35 issues?

greengreenwood7

714 posts

192 months

Monday 19th February
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different sector and different time, but i used to try and pull folks out of permie jobs and turn them into contractors in the IT/Telecoms sector. The very general rule of thumb was that a contractor would on paper double their salary.

quick tips:
remember if you're paid by the day, then every day off sick comes off your earnings, same with pub holidays.

travel = needs to be documented: if you 100% always have the same place of work its fine, but you should write into the contract that any other travel is at their expense ( in case you're asked to go to another site/place of work for a while).

pay terms & notice; if you have 4 weeks notice now (example) then you'd want the same as a contractor, and would try to ensure that you don't get paid too far in arrears - ie/ some industries might expect you to submit a timesheet at the end of the month and then pay you 'x' days after that; so you're vulnerable to late payment etc

pay increases; not always so easy to get as a contractor.

remember that whilst whatever number you throw at them may seem high, they'll be saving the employers NI, and saving on your sickies etc etc.

blueg33

35,991 posts

225 months

Monday 19th February
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I do mine through a limited company and found a good app called Staffology to sort out PAYE and NI, it produces payslips and is free for a small business.

You will need to be careful to make sure that you are not caught by IR35. There is a good checker online here:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-employment-statu...

GordonGekko

179 posts

90 months

Monday 19th February
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This is quite helpful for such scenarios….

https://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php